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Old 2013-09-17, 21:06   Link #1721
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Great Red no contest. If Ophis was stronger she would have just kicked him out of the dimension gap by herself instead of seeking help. Plus, despite her own overwhelming power(or rather because of it), she is very inexperienced with fighting. So she can't make up the difference against someone who has more raw power than her.
I agree Ophis at one point was the strongest, until Great Red came along. Ophis probably fought him already and lost overwhelmingly, it was stated that she managed to regain MOST of her power when they stole it from her so it's safe to assume she's at a good 70-80% full power right now. When she was ontop of Great Red her attacks weren't doing anything to him at all.
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Old 2013-09-17, 21:23   Link #1722
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I agree Ophis at one point was the strongest, until Great Red came along. Ophis probably fought him already and lost overwhelmingly, it was stated that she managed to regain MOST of her power when they stole it from her so it's safe to assume she's at a good 70-80% full power right now. When she was ontop of Great Red her attacks weren't doing anything to him at all.
She lost a good chunk of it when she created Isseis new humanoid-dragon body together w/ GR though. She's now only twice as strong as the two heavenly dragons combined in their primes. W/c is still pretty OP if you ask me.
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Old 2013-09-17, 22:12   Link #1723
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She lost a good chunk of it when she created Isseis new humanoid-dragon body together w/ GR though. She's now only twice as strong as the two heavenly dragons combined in their primes. W/c is still pretty OP if you ask me.
I don't think she lost any power sure she used a bit of her energy, which recharges over time, along with Ddraig and Great Red's flesh.

edit; Find a quote where it's stated cuz I ain't finding anything.
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Old 2013-09-17, 22:50   Link #1724
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Great Red no contest. If Ophis was stronger she would have just kicked him out of the dimension gap by herself instead of seeking help. Plus, despite her own overwhelming power(or rather because of it), she is very inexperienced with fighting. So she can't make up the difference against someone who has more raw power than her.
I think Ophis and Great Red were even in terms of power when at full strength which is precisely why she couldn't destroy Great Red and GR didn't take her out. See both dragons are so overpowered that they don't know how to fight beyond basic fighting because they never need anything more.

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She lost a good chunk of it when she created Isseis new humanoid-dragon body together w/ GR though. She's now only twice as strong as the two heavenly dragons combined in their primes. W/c is still pretty OP if you ask me.
Actaully Ophis was reduced to as strong as the two heavenly dragons combined in their primes when her powers were stolen by Cao Cao and Georg who also used Samael curse on her which I'm sure further weakened her.
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Old 2013-09-17, 22:58   Link #1725
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Seems like Ishibumi injured his hip. He twitted that he would be taking a break from his work for a while. Volume 16 script is already done and would be released in October, so he probably will take a break in releasing short stories for a certain time.

Is this the jinx of LN writters falling sick....?
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Old 2013-09-17, 23:17   Link #1726
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Probably an issue with LN and other artists being stuck indoors and not being to exercise as much as they should?

Probably means we will get another Short Story volume with 17, so they can keep the releases active, especially to take advantage of buzz from the anime releases.
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Old 2013-09-17, 23:24   Link #1727
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Seems like Ishibumi injured his hip. He twitted that he would be taking a break from his work for a while. Volume 16 script is already done and would be released in October, so he probably will take a break in releasing short stories for a certain time.

Is this the jinx of LN writters falling sick....?
Short stories are all well and good but he already has quite a stockpile of them that still need to be converted to LN format, so if he misses a few its not a big deal.
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Old 2013-09-17, 23:52   Link #1728
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i hope the author get well soon
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Old 2013-09-17, 23:58   Link #1729
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Oh, looks like it isnt just an ordinary injured hips. He has hernia along with sciatica.
Damn, thats really bad...
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Old 2013-09-18, 10:16   Link #1730
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hey guys,for you whom win in a fight between great red(full power) and ophis(full power)?if this battle happen I think that the universe will be in danger,no?
and for you,that fight you want too see more in dxd besides ise vs vali?I want to see one ise vs thor or ise vs shiva(if the shiva's arc happen) or ise vs indra.
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Great Red no contest. If Ophis was stronger she would have just kicked him out of the dimension gap by herself instead of seeking help. Plus, despite her own overwhelming power(or rather because of it), she is very inexperienced with fighting. So she can't make up the difference against someone who has more raw power than her.
Um, not exactly. They were dead equal at full power, however Great Red had no interest in fighting and apparently ignored Ophis. Her goal was to gather up enough human talent to tip the scales enough that she could kick him out.
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Old 2013-09-18, 15:41   Link #1731
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It's already been stated that Great Red is the most powerful being in DxD. Ophis when she was at full power was at 1st place in the top 10 strongest in DxD. However Great Red wasn't included in that ranking yet he's still stated as the strongest being. I'm guessing he's just so powerful that its next to impossible to measure his power relative to everyone else.
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Old 2013-09-18, 16:20   Link #1732
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Oh, looks like it isnt just an ordinary injured hips. He has hernia along with sciatica.
Damn, thats really bad...
Unfortunately we can only wish for him to get well soon.
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Old 2013-09-18, 17:31   Link #1733
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Oh, looks like it isnt just an ordinary injured hips. He has hernia along with sciatica.
Damn, thats really bad...
What the hell was he trying to do, lift a fully loaded bookshelf? If you can, ask him. I'd really like to know if he was thinking he was He-man or Goku or whatever to injure himself that way.
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Old 2013-09-18, 17:35   Link #1734
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It's already been stated that Great Red is the most powerful being in DxD. Ophis when she was at full power was at 1st place in the top 10 strongest in DxD. However Great Red wasn't included in that ranking yet he's still stated as the strongest being. I'm guessing he's just so powerful that its next to impossible to measure his power relative to everyone else.
No, it was stated that he isn't in the ranking because no one can reach him to get in a fight. Basically, if there was a competition for strongest in the world, he wouldn't get a rank because he wouldn't participate. And Ophis would stomp all over everything at once.
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Old 2013-09-18, 19:58   Link #1735
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Oh, looks like it isnt just an ordinary injured hips. He has hernia along with sciatica.
Damn, thats really bad...
Hope he gets well soon. Maybe he could get some inspiration from the nurse outfits he'll undoubtedly encounter when he gets scheduled for treatment
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Old 2013-09-18, 21:02   Link #1736
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well guys,the author said that the hindu gods are monsters in another level(probably shiva is the second strongest of the world besides great red and ophis) and cao cao said that between the hindu gods and ophis(full power)have a huge gap,then great red(that is most powerful that ophis who have a infinite power) have a power beyond infinite.He is literally in another dimension.
guys,I think that even with all the gods of all the mythologies together,great red can't be defeated.He is invincible.
obs:guys,you think that euclid is most powerful that cao cao or one maou?I not can see euclid giving a good figth to ise.

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Old 2013-09-18, 22:32   Link #1737
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well guys,the author said that the hindu gods are monsters in another level(probably shiva is the second strongest of the world besides great red and ophis) and cao cao said that between the hindu gods and ophis(full power)have a huge gap,then great red(that is most powerful that ophis who have a infinite power) have a power beyond infinite.He is literally in another dimension.
guys,I think that even with all the gods of all the mythologies together,great red can't be defeated.He is invincible.
obs:guys,you think that euclid is most powerful that cao cao or one maou?I not can see euclid giving a good figth to ise.
Dude CaoCao was weak as hell, admitted by half the cast. Euclid is related to freakin' Grayfia man... the strongest queen and a True Mao successor! CaoCao was just a super technique type who studied his opponents EVERY move and happened to have an OP weapon, 1 punch from Issei and he was down for the count, no argument. Like CaoCao said "I'm only human.".

edit; Euclid is probably gonna wipe the floor with Ise before he gets another power up.
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Old 2013-09-18, 23:09   Link #1738
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Dude CaoCao was weak as hell, admitted by half the cast. Euclid is related to freakin' Grayfia man... the strongest queen and a True Mao successor! CaoCao was just a super technique type who studied his opponents EVERY move and happened to have an OP weapon, 1 punch from Issei and he was down for the count, no argument. Like CaoCao said "I'm only human.".

edit; Euclid is probably gonna wipe the floor with Ise before he gets another power up.
CaoCao defeated both Vali and Azazel. Do not confuse stamina with combat ability. And the one punch took four volumes to land. Even supposing that Elucid does indeed possess similar power to Grayfia, he won't be totally out of Ise's league. Hell, I'm not entirely sure if Grayfia is still stronger than Ise.
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Old 2013-09-18, 23:21   Link #1739
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There is a possibility that Euclid did really die before and was resurrected by the new super-devil enemy.I bet it will turn into an edo tensei like festival and many dead people will be brought back.
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Old 2013-09-18, 23:40   Link #1740
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Well, while it's true that Elucid is related to Grafiya it doesn't mean that he has the same amount of power as she does.

After all, there are definitely some differences in power or the characteristics of it, between siblings - Rias and Sierzechs are the prime example of that fact, with Rias Power of Destruction being more specialized for power, while Sierzechs Power of Destruction is more technique based.

In other words, just because Grafiya is pretty powerful, doesn't exactly mean that Elucid is the same as her. He might have a more technique based power, or be the failure of the family like Sairaorg was. (although the last one, is pretty unlikely, due to him being able to infiltrate Ise's Academy, without being detected)

After all, I think that there is a reason, why he actually makes the Evil Dragons that he summons fight, instead of personally going into the front lines.
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