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Old 2013-01-22, 04:56   Link #581
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They probably just see her as a tool to use in their own feud. She might be treated different from Gasper though because Gasper has something else besides his SG that terrifies them.



Reynare was acting on her own. She mostly killed him because she thought his SG was useless to them. She thought is was the normal Twice Critical which is considered common instead of the Boosted Gear. If she knew the truth, she probably would've been more likely to tell Azazel first.
Agreed and even if she is a a human vampire hybrid, she is in possession of a longinus SG. That kind of SG is the rarest of the rare.

I doubt that.
Remember at that time Reynare was already lying to her bosses and was planning to take Asia's SG, Twilight Healing, had she told Azazel about it her plans would have been exposed.
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Old 2013-01-22, 04:57   Link #582
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We don't know who is the one who order to kill Ise, but Azazel says it's normal that a organization like Grimori order to kill someone like Ise (great powers with no talent) who can become a danger for the world.
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Old 2013-01-22, 05:38   Link #583
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So, Ise can turn parts of his body into a dragons..... now waiting for him to fully transform into a Dragon form and use Balance-Breaker.
An Armored Dragon *drools*

By the way, no info on Ross?
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Old 2013-01-22, 05:43   Link #584
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So, Ise can turn parts of his body into a dragons..... now waiting for him to fully transform into a Dragon form and use Balance-Breaker.
An Armored Dragon *drools*

By the way, no info on Ross?
Aren't dragons naturally always in armor(their scales)?
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Old 2013-01-22, 05:46   Link #585
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Reynare was acting on her own. She mostly killed him because she thought his SG was useless to them. She thought is was the normal Twice Critical which is considered common instead of the Boosted Gear. If she knew the truth, she probably would've been more likely to tell Azazel first.
Well I thought she said she killed him because the higher ups thought it was powerful, but she herself laughed at how it was nothing to worry over. Thats what I thought happened, so thats why I am a little confused here. I know for sure she was acting on her own with Asia.
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Old 2013-01-22, 05:55   Link #586
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Aren't dragons naturally always in armor(their scales)?
Scales for them are like skin for us, in other words they are exhibitionists who walk around naked.

I'm actually glad the volume turned out to be so light, it gives some relaxation after those serious volumes.
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Old 2013-01-22, 06:12   Link #587
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Thanks n0m@n for the info...
Though in one way or another, Shinra has a point that Sona won't fall easily...
Since he lose to Saji in 5 consecutive row...
After all 'She decided not to marry someone who can’t use his brain like her.
So there's still some chance for Saji... (though we like a Saji hanakai pair...)
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Old 2013-01-22, 06:14   Link #588
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Thanks for the info n0m@n! It really helps me a lot.

So the next story is still in Vol. 16, somewhere in September or something.

I heard it was Gasper's turn to be the main character. So it's time for Devils to enter the war of the Vampires, huh?

I wonder if it's going to be an intervention of the war or a rescue mission to save Gasper's childhood friend, Valerei.

"Oppai Dragon enters the war of the Vampires" on his next adventure with his lively companions.
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Old 2013-01-22, 06:31   Link #589
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Spoiler for Saji's doom:



Well, when Grendel was summoned by Euclid through the dragon-gate(Dark-Green), it was decided for Ise to fight him one on one. Grendel is a dragon who stands on two legs. He stands like a human but has a dragons features. He loves fighting and destroying more than anything.
But Ddraig was still sleeping. So Vritra and Fafnir wakes Ddraig up. Fafnir helps after receiving Asia's panties(Asia cries out that she cant marry, but Ise says he will take responsibility).
Ddraig wakes up. Ise finally goes into Balance-Breaker form. He realised that he entered Balance-Breaker without countdown.
Ise goes at Grendel and punch him really hard with Rook. But Grendel was so hard that Ise didnt feel like he punched him. Grendel was hit directly but didnt feel a thing(there was a bit of blue blood coming from his mouth).
Grendel calls Ise weak. Ddraig gets also pissed at Grendel so Ise and Ddraig decided to turn into Crimson-Queen(Grendel has fought Ddraig in the past. Grendel was actually killed by the original Beowulf). Grendel has one of the hardest scales out of all Dragons.
Grendel breathes fire and Ise dodges. Fire was a bluff, and Grendel does a normal punch to Ise(His normal punch is stronger than Sairaorg in Lion's armour).
Grendel then smacks Ise to the ground. Grendel's power is way beyond that of a Dragon-class. Grendel tries to stomp. Ise dodges and kicks his jaw.
Grendel punches as if nothing happened.
They start exchanging blows. Grendel is enjoying the fight.
Then Ise puts all the energy into the Ascalon equipped inside the Boosted Gear. He uses Gift and also thickens his arm to give it the strongest attack.
Ise attacks to Grendel's stomach.
Grendel falls while coughing blood. But Grendel stands saying it insanely hurts.
Grendel changes his plan and decided to kill everyone. He attacks others with fireball but Ise's comrade blocks it.
Grendel decided to move but Gasper uses his unknown power he displayed in volume 12.
Euclid decides that they have enough information regarding Gremory group and insists to retreat. Grendel argues but Euclid asks Grendel if he wants to go back due a dead corpse. Grendel agrees. Euclid gets a contact from someone and receives a information that the other group are having hard time taking on Vali.
Grendel becomes happy that he can fight Vali.
They both leave.


So thats it. They didnt finish the fight.
Also Azazel stated in another chapter that Vritra is also Evil-Dragon but he is nothing compared to Crom Cruach, Aži Dahāka, Apophis, in terms of evilness.
Wow this is interesting Volume thought. So does Grendel can be Heavenly-Dragon level in strength.

Does Euclid are join Khaos Brigade? Or he just do things with his own drive?

Also n0m@n what kind of abilities Akeno is now use, i mean about Dragon attribue? Is there mention something about it?
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Old 2013-01-22, 06:32   Link #590
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After reading the info that n0m@n provided us, I guess the question we should ask next is ... what kind of power up Ise is going to obtain next ... it probably won't happen in the next main story volume, but considering what n0m@n mentioned about Ise's fight against Grendel, I would say that the thing that Ise is going to start developing in the next volume is gaining control over his Dividing Gear, by developing it into a sub-species type Balance Breaker...

After all, if even Ise's True Queen isn't enough to manage to defeat, or seriously injure, the main enemies of the latest arc, then I think the only thing left to do, is to try and weaken the enemies power... since mastering Ise's True Queen is probably going to take too much time, for it to make a difference in the events of the recently started arc...

I know that this probably won't be an easy task, which is why I mentioned that it's going to take more then one volume to do this, but that's the only thing that I can think of, for Ise to be capable of managing to defeat the current arc's enemies, which are at a pretty decent level, from the looks of it...
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Old 2013-01-22, 07:40   Link #591
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After reading the info that n0m@n provided us, I guess the question we should ask next is ... what kind of power up Ise is going to obtain next ... it probably won't happen in the next main story volume, but considering what n0m@n mentioned about Ise's fight against Grendel, I would say that the thing that Ise is going to start developing in the next volume is gaining control over his Dividing Gear, by developing it into a sub-species type Balance Breaker...

After all, if even Ise's True Queen isn't enough to manage to defeat, or seriously injure, the main enemies of the latest arc, then I think the only thing left to do, is to try and weaken the enemies power... since mastering Ise's True Queen is probably going to take too much time, for it to make a difference in the events of the recently started arc...

I know that this probably won't be an easy task, which is why I mentioned that it's going to take more then one volume to do this, but that's the only thing that I can think of, for Ise to be capable of managing to defeat the current arc's enemies, which are at a pretty decent level, from the looks of it...
I can see two roads on how Ise can gain a lot of power in a short amount of time.
First is the road you mentioned, mastering Divine Dividing power and make it into a sub-species.
The other one, I think is for Ise to gain the ability to fully transform into a dragon.

Fully mastering CCQ, as with anything other, will require time which Ise doesn't really have a lot of.
So the only real choice is to gain a new power that will add to his strength. And that can be accomplished either by achieving control of Divine Dividing power or as we seen that now Ise capable of transforming parts of his body into a dragons, he can train in that direction and be able to transform into a dragon form completely.
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Old 2013-01-22, 07:55   Link #592
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I can see two roads on how Ise can gain a lot of power in a short amount of time.
First is the road you mentioned, mastering Divine Dividing power and make it into a sub-species.
The other one, I think is for Ise to gain the ability to fully transform into a dragon.

Fully mastering CCQ, as with anything other, will require time which Ise doesn't really have a lot of.
So the only real choice is to gain a new power that will add to his strength. And that can be accomplished either by achieving control of Divine Dividing power or as we seen that now Ise capable of transforming parts of his body into a dragons, he can train in that direction and be able to transform into a dragon form completely.
I think that Ise managing to fully transform into a dragon is pretty unlikely... or at the very least, it would require some serious amount of training... maybe the same amount as mastering the CCQ...

The reason why I think that, is caused by the fact that Ise's current body isn't the same as a the body of a naturally born dragon... since it has been mentioned, in volume 12, that certain parts of Ise's current body are the same as a human (or more accurately, the body of a human who has been resurrected into a devil), meaning that there is still some difference between Ise's current body and the body of "a natural dragon", which would make a full body transformation into a dragon, a pretty hard task...
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Old 2013-01-22, 08:21   Link #593
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hmm ur right about that ..but i think that the certains parts that ddraig is talking about is most likely the appearance only ..so we can say that isse body right now is the same with ophis , a human in appearance and the flesh is a dragon (opinion only) , so i agree that in the future isse will learn how to transform himself into a dragon
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Old 2013-01-22, 08:34   Link #594
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I think that Ise managing to fully transform into a dragon is pretty unlikely... or at the very least, it would require some serious amount of training... maybe the same amount as mastering the CCQ...

The reason why I think that, is caused by the fact that Ise's current body isn't the same as a the body of a naturally born dragon... since it has been mentioned, in volume 12, that certain parts of Ise's current body are the same as a human (or more accurately, the body of a human who has been resurrected into a devil), meaning that there is still some difference between Ise's current body and the body of "a natural dragon", which would make a full body transformation into a dragon, a pretty hard task...
It's true that achieving full dragon transformation will prove difficult. But I think it won't be as difficult as fully mastering CCQ.

It's true that Ise current body is the same as a humans should be. But his body is made of Great Red's flesh, so it may hold memory of a dragon form. Meaning that Ise's dragon form will look a lot like GR. The biggest challenge will be to make that Dragon form natural and "comfortable" for Ise to be in. Besides, if Ise truly goes this route, he will have someone who can help him. I mean the guy from Sairoarg's group, the guy who can transform into a dragon from the House of Bune.

But the most likely route is the one where Ise masters Divine Dividing power firs, since it may be more easier since now Ise seems to have infinite life force, meaning he can practice using Divine Dividing without risk for his life.
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Old 2013-01-22, 09:14   Link #595
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I remember a few months ago it was mentioned that the next power up for Isse would be with the Divine Dividing. However, see him as a complete dragon with armor would be great too.
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Old 2013-01-22, 10:14   Link #596
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I am quite curious with wat did Ise do with his dragon arm??? To me, it would be weird if Ise has a full dragon form. It would kind of defeat the purpose of having the Boosted Gear but being able to use dragon techniques like flame attacks and using that dragon arm as defense during normal mode top with 10 secs per boosting would be interesting since his BB mode would literally destroy a Rating Game if not careful. I would rather he masters the Crimson Queen mode...until a even stronger foe appears which should be in the last few volumes where the sub-species appears
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We know that the Author planned to increase the relationship of Ise’s remaining Harem members such as Ravel(the main of V.14), Irina, Xenovia, Rossweisse, and Gasper.

From the latest news about the LN, next Vol. 15 will be a SS. A little bit from Kiba’s past and SS from different volumes or after events of Vol.14.

Since Vol. 16 is for Gasper, then the next one will be either Irina or Xenovia, but it’ll probably be Irina. Since, there was a part in V. 14 where Irina and Ise talks about a childhood promise. So, it would be natural that Irina will be the next main and after that is Xenovia’s turn for a “Level-up”, and last one will Rossweisse.

In Irina’s case, the only thing that blocks her path to love Ise even further is that she is an Angel. So she has to abide the rules of Heaven, or else she’ll be Fallen. She loves Ise but she’s still concern about her side as an Angel. I think there was a post before that Michael warns her about giving birth to Ise’s child. I think Michael was against that idea. I feel sorry for the gall in her position.

Spoiler for Possible thought about Irina.....:


Now then, to start with my discussion, I’ll be talking about the theory of V.16. Which the story will be focus on the Vampire War, having Gasper as the main.

Stopping a Vampire war is practically an impossible feat. It’s because both sides won’t listen and they’re too prideful being a Vampire. If the Devils(Gremory & Sitri Groups, only hypothetical) are going to intervene to war, they’ll only be considered as enemy as well. A third party, so to speak. That would be bad in their position. Blood will be spilled. Unless they stop the root cause of the war, and that is to retrieve the Longinus Possessor, Valerie.

But to do that, they must engage battle with both sides. Although Valerie is on the Tepes side but it will be hard to approach them due to the interference of the Camila faction. But on V.14, there was a pure-blooded vampire visited the Academy for negotiations. And according to previous post that she’s a bitch and openly declared something that Azazel was very pissed at it. She must be the one bringing the order for Gasper to return to their place.

Seriously! Both Factions are a bunch of cocky bastards and bitches with too much pride as pure-blooded Vampires to boot.

Spoiler for About Sephiroth's Grail....:


It would be better if Gasper’s family shows up on this story to explain about his “power” and its origin.

I still don't know how this story will end. But I guess I'll have to wait for it in the next few months.
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Old 2013-01-22, 12:25   Link #598
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Been a while since I read the book but I seem to remember Michael encouraging Irina to get closer to Ise.
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Old 2013-01-22, 14:23   Link #599
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Been a while since I read the book but I seem to remember Michael encouraging Irina to get closer to Ise.
I don't remember reading that anywhere. And even if he did say that, I doubt he meant in a romantic sense. As a friend then, yeah. As a lover, no way.

I think you mean this;
Spoiler for Volume 6:
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Old 2013-01-22, 15:08   Link #600
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hey guys,you think that valerie too will join in ise harem?I think that she will join in ise harem how one of your servants.what you think?
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