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Old 2013-03-14, 23:12   Link #1021
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Even though Aika had that nice "with them I could turn any tragedy into a comedy" line, this Okada/BONES original flashback makes no sense.

It was established that Mahiro had no clue that Yoshino was dating Aika and thought they didn't get along. In the flashback, Mahiro essentially introduced the two and hooked them up by telling Aika that Yoshino is the guy she can rely on.

Figures Okada couldn't leave things as they are...
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Old 2013-03-14, 23:15   Link #1022
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Hanemura finally mans up somewhat. Will be nice to see what Yoshino and Mahiro do next episode.
I just wish he could have manned up without nearly killing Yoshino . Really without the healing power from Hakaze he might have died from internal injuries.
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Old 2013-03-14, 23:19   Link #1023
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Hanemura finally showing some backbone.

So if it's all in his hands and his hands alone, and the plan has already been thought up by Mahiro, what role does Mahiro/Yoshino now fulfill? That is what I'm intrigued about the most right now, is how they'd stay relevant to the plot now that the murderer has been revealed and the fate of the world is out of their hands.


And more Aika flashbacks are always welcome. Can't seem to get enough of that girl, which is saying something considering I generally dislike flashbacks.

I mean, we've already covered flashbacks of the three's first meeting, the scene where they touched on Mahiro's feelings, a semi-date between Yoshino/Aika, their first kiss, and most recently how her death came about. You know what we're missing? A flashback on how Yoshino and Aika started dating in the first place, and I sure hope they get to it somehow... though at 2 episodes remaining, it's very unlikely.



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Well in that scene Yoshino and Mahiro is sill suppose to be in middle school xD
Just wondering, was it mentioned in the manga if Aika was in middle school as well at that time? Or even her age at the time of the flashback? Because she hasn't developed much since then...
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Old 2013-03-14, 23:25   Link #1024
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I didn't particularly like the flashback (unless there's a deeper, hidden meaning to it), and agree with what Shadow5YA said concerning it.

When Mahiro made the comment about what she must eat, I honestly groaned inside, expecting him to make a crack about her boobs.
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Old 2013-03-14, 23:55   Link #1025
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I was honestly fine with the flashback. It's a rather important moment anyways. A meeting that frankly would consume the fate of the entire world. Plus I don't think Mahiro talking about his good friend is the same as saying "please go out with him." I thought it was an interesting moment before the hating Yoshino act was put forward by Aika. Showing how they both completely just blew past that isolation Aika faced her whole life and just proved how they are far stranger than even the Mage of Exodus .
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Old 2013-03-15, 00:20   Link #1026
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I knew it... IKNEWITIKNEWIKNEWIT that Mary Sue couldn't leave things alone.
I now fears at what she'll do to the remaining two episodes.
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Old 2013-03-15, 00:40   Link #1027
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Just wondering, was it mentioned in the manga if Aika was in middle school as well at that time? Or even her age at the time of the flashback? Because she hasn't developed much since then...
Well, I knew Yoshino and Mahiro were in middle school during the flashback..well that whole dinner scene was suppose to be just Mahiro and Aika. Yoshino and Aika met on the streets and Aika says something along the lines of he was weird and Yoshino replies that he's just a normal middle schooler. Logically thinking, Aika is just a year younger than Yoshino and Mahiro. Since at the beginning they were 2nd years and it's been a year since Aika died, and Mahiro said she wasn't 15 yet and at the time of the flashback Aika was fretting about High School entrance(guess she was a 3rd year jr high)exams...oh I just reread your question..sorry no, and I apologize for making this lengthy for such a simple question. I don't think they mentioned it. But if I have to guess she was probably a 1st or 2nd year. In the manga when before Yoshino met Aika, Mahiro showed Yoshino a picture of Aika she was wearing a sailor uniform, similar to the one she wears.

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I knew it... IKNEWITIKNEWIKNEWIT that Mary Sue couldn't leave things alone.
I now fears at what she'll do to the remaining two episodes.
Well it's a bit expected right? As much as I would of loved it to stick exactly to the manga, it'll be a bit troublesome to cram 7 chapters in 3 episodes. :/
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Old 2013-03-15, 00:46   Link #1028
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Part of me wonders if that's a Flash-Drive Black Mail from Beyond the Grave. It just feels like something Aika would do.
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Old 2013-03-15, 02:30   Link #1029
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In the manga when before Yoshino met Aika, Mahiro showed Yoshino a picture of Aika she was wearing a sailor uniform, similar to the one she wears.
Yeah, definitely was in middle school if it was similar to the one she wears. Which confirms my suspicions that I was wrong in my first assumption of Aika being childhood friends with Yoshino (or even Mahiro) that I made in the beginning of this series.
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Old 2013-03-15, 03:12   Link #1030
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It was established that Mahiro had no clue that Yoshino was dating Aika and thought they didn't get along. In the flashback, Mahiro essentially introduced the two and hooked them up by telling Aika that Yoshino is the guy she can rely on.
I'm not exactly sure what the big deal is here. I never got the feeling Mahiro was hooking up Mahiro and Aika together. And even, so why does that mean Mahiro would know about Yoshino and Aika dating later on? There wasn't any indication Yoshino and Aika started dating there and then.
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Old 2013-03-15, 06:11   Link #1031
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It was established that Mahiro had no clue that Yoshino was dating Aika and thought they didn't get along. In the flashback, Mahiro essentially introduced the two and hooked them up by telling Aika that Yoshino is the guy she can rely on.
People being friendly to each other when they first meet and then not getting along later on happens all the time.

This is a complete non issue.
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Old 2013-03-15, 06:15   Link #1032
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What the last two guys said. I don't see that flashback as a setup at all, merely an introduction, and for me it contradicts nothing we've already seen or been told.
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Old 2013-03-15, 06:45   Link #1033
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But I want moe!Aika when she first met Yoshino
Even if they put the scene next episode it won't be the same in my opinion... I could see how they were made for each other since that first meeting.
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Old 2013-03-15, 10:12   Link #1034
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But I want moe!Aika when she first met Yoshino
Even if they put the scene next episode it won't be the same in my opinion... I could see how they were made for each other since that first meeting.
If I recall correctly even Yoshino says something about how it was 'fate'(?), or something along the with that word.

I mean with Mahiro and Aika's meeting he gave Aika Yoshino's #, kind of funny how things ended up like as results.
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Old 2013-03-15, 12:30   Link #1035
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But I want moe!Aika when she first met Yoshino
Even if they put the scene next episode it won't be the same in my opinion... I could see how they were made for each other since that first meeting.
Agrees. Even they do put that scene in, the chemistry will be diferent. That "boy metes girl" feel during their first encounter is what I found endearing about them.
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Old 2013-03-15, 14:39   Link #1036
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People being friendly to each other when they first meet and then not getting along later on happens all the time.

This is a complete non issue.
So I'm supposed to magically construct this scenario where Yoshino initially got along with Aika, then they go out of their way to pretend their relationship soured in front of Mahiro when they started going out?

Sure, why not! And here I thought Okada was the scenario writer


I'll commend BONES for sticking to the source material fairly well and not turning this into Full Metal Alchemist 2003 or JCStaff's Tsukihime and Yumekui Merry, but that doesn't mean it's flawless and gets a free pass. I call what I see.
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Old 2013-03-15, 14:45   Link #1037
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So I'm supposed to magically construct this scenario where Yoshino initially got along with Aika, then they go out of their way to pretend their relationship soured in front of Mahiro when they started going out?
What exactly is so wrong about that? Sorry, but your criticism isn't self evident here. I'm still failing to see the issue.
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Old 2013-03-15, 15:01   Link #1038
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So I'm supposed to magically construct this scenario where Yoshino initially got along with Aika, then they go out of their way to pretend their relationship soured in front of Mahiro when they started going out?
I'm confused because I thought the fact that they indeed do pretend to not get along was established?

Not to mention that apart from finding it amusing he called her "aika-chan" it's not like she was thrilled to see him ("do I look like the type of person who'd rely on someone?")
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Old 2013-03-15, 15:37   Link #1039
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I'm confused because I thought the fact that they indeed do pretend to not get along was established?
Yes, it was established. However, Yoshino said he never understood why Aika wanted to hide their relationship. Perhaps the answer will be in that letter she left the boys.
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Old 2013-03-15, 15:44   Link #1040
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I think that flashback was the first time I saw Aika looking flustered and/or embarassed by something. Didnt even know she was capable of any display of anything other than absolute confidence and disillusion.
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