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Old 2012-12-19, 17:28   Link #3161
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Let the Fireflys, Pershings, and Super Pershings roll.
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M36 tank destroyers with 90mm cannon. With post-war folding armored roof kit for safety. (2 of these are still in service with Taiwan and wer used in combat into the 1980s and 1990s (Iran-Iraqi War and Bosnia)
But that doesn't give Saunders any material advantage, and we know that tactically they're not on the same level as Pravda and Black Forest. The only rationalization of "favorite" I can think of is that Saunders is the third or fourth seed, but is known to be less capable than the first two seeds.
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Old 2012-12-19, 17:29   Link #3162
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Let the Fireflys, Pershings, and Super Pershings roll.
Hmm, official data indicates the arsenal of Saunders include M4A1, M4A6, and the Firefly. Unfortunately, Pershings aren't part of their arsenal. That being said, Saunders has about 40 vehicles, the most numerous of all schools.

Black Forest has at least two Tigers, one confirmed Konigstiger, and a variety of Tiger series conversions that amount to 10 vehicles as witnessed in episode 10. Alongside 10 Panthers, BF apparently keep an arsenal of Panzer IIIs & IVs. Saunders may have the most vehicles, but I think BF is a very close second. In terms of quality, BF pretty much got it... especially in a straight-up match considering their variety of vehicles that can be fielded, adding to strategic flexibility.

Oh, another interesting data indicates that St. Gloriana's ship is 8 times larger than Oorai's...

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Old 2012-12-19, 17:53   Link #3163
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In random commentary, I'm not a fan of the new brown color on the Panzer IV. I don't care if it's standard for the upgrade. The gray looked better.
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Old 2012-12-19, 17:57   Link #3164
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Edit: I just realised. They're at the foot of Mount Fuji. The JGSDF's Fuji School Brigade is located there...

... they're in combat with Kuromine at Japan's OPFOR. Holy shit. No wonder Yukari calls it the Holy Land of tanks!
I lost the link, but I came across official art a few hours ago which showed some lineart of the character designs. And Ami's uniform had "Tank School Unit" in English on it. So yeah, the supposition of the match taking place at the JGSDF's East Fuji Maneuver Area works out.

Fun trivia: Nakagami Ikumi, the voice actress for character Akiyama Yukari, seems to be a tank lover herself, and in fact attended this year's Fuji Firepower Exercise back in August, which takes place at the aforementioned East Fuji Maneuver Area.
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Old 2012-12-19, 19:00   Link #3165
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Let the Fireflys, Pershings, and Super Pershings roll.
But when Yukari spy the Saunder, they don't has Pershing or US TDs. All of them are M4 variants and Firefly. If they face to face BF, these Sherman can't win unless they sneak up to behind of BF. Because Tiger and Panther above can snipe Sherman from safely distance.
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Old 2012-12-19, 19:03   Link #3166
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If money isn't an issue, they can probably buy some new tanks. So far the only school their Sherman/Firefly combo would have a problem with is Black Forest.

The Student Council was hoping for enough money to buy some more tanks, but they only had enough to get the Hetzer upgrade kit. Even with funds from the other school clubs.
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Old 2012-12-19, 19:12   Link #3167
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IS-2/KV-2/T-34 combo of Pravda is more problem to Black Forest, more stronger firepower, more speed Saunder's M4 variants.

Tanks are expensive, Oorai sold all good tanks for enough fund to run Oorai in 20 years. Wonder how many and what kind of tanks Ooraid had once? Maybe they had Maus and other rare/unique tanks before.
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Old 2012-12-19, 19:17   Link #3168
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Maybe the reason Saunder become one the favorite is because Pravda can beat BF last year, sprouting confidence that even with such line up, BF can be defeated...
Media than fans it by giving spot of favorite to semifinalist of previous year (Pravda, Saunder, St. Gloriana, and BF)...
You know, more variety bring more type of supporter, broader range of consumer, thus more profit...

Just a theory of mine...
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Old 2012-12-19, 19:25   Link #3169
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Old 2012-12-19, 19:28   Link #3170
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In random commentary, I'm not a fan of the new brown color on the Panzer IV. I don't care if it's standard for the upgrade. The gray looked better.
The sad thing is the new color should be sand yellow, but thats the color of BF, so to diferenciate they choose the red brown. I would choose the green base color of late war german camo patterns.
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Old 2012-12-19, 19:35   Link #3171
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The sad thing is the new color should be sand yellow, but thats the color of BF, so to diferenciate they choose the red brown. I would choose the green base color of late war german camo patterns.
Actually, the color is Oxidrot RAL 3009, the red primer used from September 1944 to December 1944 as the "base" upon which limited camo would be put on.
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Old 2012-12-19, 19:54   Link #3172
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Actually, the color is Oxidrot RAL 3009, the red primer used from September 1944 to December 1944 as the "base" upon which limited camo would be put on.
Hmm... *googles it. Checks the episode* I don't know... that color you named has more of a reddish tint to it. The Panzer IV is definitely a tannish brown.
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Old 2012-12-19, 20:29   Link #3173
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Old 2012-12-19, 20:32   Link #3174
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Oh, another interesting data indicates that St. Gloriana's ship is 8 times larger than Oorai's...

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More like 3-4 times bigger.

So how much of a threat is Oorai's Porsche Tiger to Black Forest school? Isn't it the most powerful German tank developed?
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Old 2012-12-19, 20:44   Link #3175
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Shiho's attitude is not real. It would not be accepted in any highschool sport martial art, which is what senshado is. In a martial art being used for military training, yes, it could be understood there, but that is not what this situation is. YOU. CANNOT. IGNORE. THE. NATURE. OF. THE. SITUATION. SIMPLY. BY. CALLING. IT. A. MARTIAL. ART. Again, as we have been telling you since this issue came up, plenty of martial arts exist in real life that are still real martial arts, and yet still properly respect the lives of the people using them.
As an Asian, my interpretation isn't that Shiho is being blind of what she is seeing. Instead, I see a Head of the Family, the one in power, trying to assert her rule by denying she could be wrong. Miho had been judged unworthy of the family name, and the sentence had been handed down. Shiho simply refuses to accept new evidence that suggest she was in any way in error.

This isn't about War vs Sport. This is about a powerful woman who refuses to back down by denying reality. Miho honours her family name, and Shiho outright refuse to accept that.
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Old 2012-12-19, 20:49   Link #3176
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More like 3-4 times bigger.
Not talking about the length, talking about the total volume. Official information indicates a 8:1 ratio in terms of size.

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So how much of a threat is Oorai's Porsche Tiger to Black Forest school? Isn't it the most powerful German tank developed?
Most powerful German tank to ever seen battle during the war was the Konigstiger, and fielded by Black Forest under Erika. The Porsche Tiger was, as episode 10 indicated, prone to a number of mechanical failures. Only one ever made it into battle, and this was in the Eastern Front where a lone Tiger P was converted into a command panzer bearing turret number 003 under the command of Hauptmann Grillenberg.

There were many chassis made because Porsche thought their design would win the bid to become the next generation German heavy tank, thus numerous chassis were produced. These were later converted into Ferdinand and the Elephant, which one of each could be seen in Episode 10.

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Not talking about the length, talking about the total volume. Official information indicates a 8:1 ratio in terms of size.



Most powerful German tank to ever seen battle during the war was the Konigstiger, and fielded by Black Forest under Erika. The Porsche Tiger was, as episode 10 indicated, prone to a number of mechanical failures. Only one ever made it into battle, and this was in the Eastern Front where a lone Tiger P was converted into a command panzer bearing turret number 003 under the command of Hauptmann Grillenberg.

There were many chassis made because Porsche thought their design would win the bid to become the next generation German heavy tank, thus numerous chassis were produced. These were later converted into Ferdinand and the Elephant, which one of each could be seen in Episode 10.

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So that big monster of Tank is being used by Erika? Poor Miho...
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Old 2012-12-19, 21:07   Link #3179
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If Oorai were to lose, what would Miho's (and the other's) alternatives be, out of curiousity?
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Old 2012-12-19, 21:14   Link #3180
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If Oorai were to lose, what would Miho's (and the other's) alternatives be, out of curiousity?
Transfer to other schools.

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