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Old 2013-03-26, 22:56   Link #5641
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The other huge vulnerability would have been the air intakes in front of the turret, but the Type 89 was in the way.
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Old 2013-03-26, 23:00   Link #5642
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Actually, I lay out my reasoning here. It's just that it all got missed out in the drama.
Which I saw...which still is a rather tenuous inference based on extremely little. Until we get something focusing on Maho's band, questions of KMM's spirit are uncertain.

A doctrine is something open to individual's interpretation. Majority of KMM may have disapproved saving the Pz. III but that's it. How they saw sacrifice, or what they actually thought about that incident or their tactics and plenty of other factors cannot be gleaned from that one thing alone
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Old 2013-03-26, 23:01   Link #5643
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Well the total weight with the Type 89 on the Maus is probably around 200 tons., but the Maus is still on the ground so the Hetzer wasn't taking the entire weight.
The weight of the Maus is destributed across the front on the Hetzer and the rear of the Maus. Plus I looked more carefully at it. The Maus was trying to back up, but probably couldn't get enough traction with the Hetzer continually driving into it.

Now if the Type 89 has enough weight to top the turret motor from turning the turret? Maybe, though the Type 89 was also turning into the turret as well to push it back. One wouldn't think an engineer would overpower the Maus' motors to move more than it should by much. Enough so that moving the turret won't strain the motors, but adding 20% more weight against it might not be up to specs.

The shot from the Panzer IV is not so iffy, though I wonder about how it got up there to make the shot while holding position like that.

I would have thought they would have let the Type 89 down before the Hetzer withdrew, but she was under enough stress as it was without being driven over again.

(Is Momo just that emotional, or did she have hay fever during the parade.)
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Old 2013-03-26, 23:11   Link #5644
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Until we get something focusing on Maho's band, questions of KMM's spirit are uncertain.
The Little Army chapter focusing on Maho's team and Miho's tank battle reveals quite a bit on Kuromorimine and Nishizumi-ryuu actually. For example, Maho casually comments that a single loss out of ten thousand matches is enough grounds to get a student expelled. The looks of horror of her crew that followed were priceless. Also lots of asskissing.
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Old 2013-03-26, 23:31   Link #5645
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The Little Army chapter focusing on Maho's team and Miho's tank battle reveals quite a bit on Kuromorimine and Nishizumi-ryuu actually. For example, Maho casually comments that a single loss out of ten thousand matches is enough grounds to get a student expelled. The looks of horror of her crew that followed were priceless. Also lots of asskissing.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that little one liner.

OVA 6 = About 100 KMM students come begging for shelter at Oarai, saying they had been kicked out of KMM for losing. We get insights onto the mentality of the average KMM tanker... In the end, Anzu somehow pulls a few bureaucratic tricks and strings to transfer KMM's tank fleet to Oarai, much to Shiho's disgust - the new, strengthened Oarai tank team is formed.
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Old 2013-03-26, 23:41   Link #5646
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that little one liner.

OVA 6 = About 100 KMM students come begging for shelter at Oarai, saying they had been kicked out of KMM for losing. We get insights onto the mentality of the average KMM tanker... In the end, Anzu somehow pulls a few bureaucratic tricks and strings to transfer KMM's tank fleet to Oarai, much to Shiho's disgust - the new, strengthened Oarai tank team is formed.
I don't know... that would seem a little more vindictive than I think the series' creators intend to be, now that our girls have won.
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Old 2013-03-26, 23:41   Link #5647
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that little one liner.

OVA 6 = About 100 KMM students come begging for shelter at Oarai, saying they had been kicked out of KMM for losing. We get insights onto the mentality of the average KMM tanker... In the end, Anzu somehow pulls a few bureaucratic tricks and strings to transfer KMM's tank fleet to Oarai, much to Shiho's disgust - the new, strengthened Oarai tank team is formed.
I'm late to the party: what will OVA 5 be about?
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Old 2013-03-26, 23:43   Link #5648
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I don't think they've said what OVA 5 will be about. We know OVA 4 will be about the Anglerfish Dance.
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Old 2013-03-26, 23:43   Link #5649
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Old 2013-03-26, 23:44   Link #5650
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I don't think they've said what OVA 5 will be about. We know OVA 4 will be about the Anglerfish Dance.
You mean the EPIC dance? I foresee amusement.

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Sometimes, I wish people would take it easy rather than succumbing to hypertension and elevated cortisol levels. It's an anime, not a graduate thesis.
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Old 2013-03-26, 23:47   Link #5651
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Watched the final episode today, and completely amazed on the amount of action. I thought Miho's Panzer IV would lose, then there would be still some way to save the school - but instead, they actually beat Maho's Tiger 1.

Bunny team take out two heavy tanks, before getting flagged. They did learn some things after all.

Porsche Tiger could sure take some punishment before getting the flag out. It has been hit by the Maus, even before it fought multiple tanks.

And lastly, volleyball team is always reliable. Too bad they didn't have much firepower.

Hoping for a second season!
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Old 2013-03-26, 23:54   Link #5652
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I'm going to guess the Porsche Tiger was the command model: the single one that was actually fielded, with the 200 mm frontal armor. Perfect for parking somewhere and holding the enemy at bay. Its biggest flaw is its unreliable engine: when it can just sit somewhere and hold a position, it's a freaking fortress.
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Old 2013-03-26, 23:57   Link #5653
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I'm going to guess the Porsche Tiger was the command model: the single one that was actually fielded, with the 200 mm frontal armor. Perfect for parking somewhere and holding the enemy at bay. Its biggest flaw is its unreliable engine: when it can just sit somewhere and hold a position, it's a freaking fortress.
Well, frankly all of Porsche's tank-related development needed a LOT of teething before they could be utilized as weapons of war.



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Old 2013-03-27, 00:24   Link #5654
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I don't know... that would seem a little more vindictive than I think the series' creators intend to be, now that our girls have won.
It is not that vindictive maybe except for Shiho, who I think we are still supposed to dislike.

There were an enormous amount of Awesome and Heartwarming scenes being played out in front of their eyes while they have been acting like doofuses. It is not surprising if by the end of the fight at least some of them were already thinking "I think I may have joined the wrong Tankery school."

And then if Shiho gives them aggro post-fight, it is not hard to believe that they might say "[censored] this. I'm out of here" even before Shiho can fire them.

And they find true happiness in Oarai. That's not such a bad ending, is it?
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Old 2013-03-27, 00:52   Link #5655
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So it ends , but what a way to end whooo! well worth the wait

wanting to write so many things but I just lost energy seeing these pages and pages of....

anyway all is well and here's hoping for S2~!!!!!!!

be waiting for OVA subs in the meantime
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Old 2013-03-27, 01:08   Link #5656
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Sometimes, I wish people would take it easy rather than succumbing to hypertension and elevated cortisol levels. It's an anime, not a graduate thesis.
This is true.
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Old 2013-03-27, 01:11   Link #5657
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I'm going to guess the Porsche Tiger was the command model: the single one that was actually fielded, with the 200 mm frontal armor. Perfect for parking somewhere and holding the enemy at bay. Its biggest flaw is its unreliable engine: when it can just sit somewhere and hold a position, it's a freaking fortress.
The problem with fortresses is that they can be avoided or flanked - Leopon Team were fortunate in that they were able to position themselves where KMM had no choice but to go through them.

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It is not that vindictive maybe except for Shiho, who I think we are still supposed to dislike.

There were an enormous amount of Awesome and Heartwarming scenes being played out in front of their eyes while they have been acting like doofuses. It is not surprising if by the end of the fight at least some of them were already thinking "I think I may have joined the wrong Tankery school."

And then if Shiho gives them aggro post-fight, it is not hard to believe that they might say "[censored] this. I'm out of here" even before Shiho can fire them.

And they find true happiness in Oarai. That's not such a bad ending, is it?
I don't think they'd be allowed to bring their tanks with them though, as it's school property. And that's before we get into the issue of whether Oarai can actually afford maintenance on those tanks - I had some major problems with maintaining my newly bought tanks in World of Tanks, having just enough cash to buy the tank... and barely enough to keep it running and repaired. I was so happy to finally get to Tier V...

Mind you, we see this in real life and business, and a great many other paradigms: it's not the purchase price that kills you, it's the maintenance.

Also regards thoughts of sticking Miho in a Tiger for next year, I'm going to go on a limb and say that I think that isn't a good idea, because she and her crew are hell on treads with that Panzer IV Ausf G; that tank pretty much complements Miho's style.

Something interesting that hasn't been commented on: the Volleyball Club were in senshado this year since they didn't have enough members for their club, and their aim was to drum up publicity so that they could have a Volleyball Club next year. Except that, as the sun sets, they decide to do senshado again next year. Assuming they're 2nd-years like Kampfegruppe Miho, that means that they're giving up on their goal - reviving the Volleyball Club - for the senshado team.

That's rather touching.
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Old 2013-03-27, 01:14   Link #5658
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The manga itself doesn't have much chapters out,
I think there was a delay because chapter 12 didn't come out till months after.

Although I do wonder how the author would stretch the story, wouldn't it just repeat.
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Old 2013-03-27, 01:17   Link #5659
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Something interesting that hasn't been commented on: the Volleyball Club were in senshado this year since they didn't have enough members for their club, and their aim was to drum up publicity so that they could have a Volleyball Club next year. Except that, as the sun sets, they decide to do senshado again next year. Assuming they're 2nd-years like Kampfegruppe Miho, that means that they're giving up on their goal - reviving the Volleyball Club - for the senshado team.

That's rather touching.
It might well be that they do get volleyball back to the school, but it would be all new recruits who needed to be trained. So it ends up that they become coaches of the new first years but not being participants themselves.

Keep in mind that by the time we have new people in the school, it would have been a new school year and most tank crews other than Rabbit would be in their final year. The Turtle team by then would have graduated.

The setting of a highschool is strict like that. You only really have 3 years to tell a story.
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Old 2013-03-27, 01:32   Link #5660
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I'm going to guess the Porsche Tiger was the command model: the single one that was actually fielded, with the 200 mm frontal armor. Perfect for parking somewhere and holding the enemy at bay. Its biggest flaw is its unreliable engine: when it can just sit somewhere and hold a position, it's a freaking fortress.
That doesn't appear to be the case actually, and has been discussed prior. The command tank variant's 100mm of applique armor is highly visible through the bolts holding it in place on the hull along with the much larger towing lugs, and yet Oarai's Tiger (P) doesn't have those.

The first pic is of the Command Tank Tiger (P):



The second pic is of the original Tiger (P) without the bolt-on armor:



And this is the Leopon Team Tiger (P):

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