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Old 2013-04-12, 01:39   Link #6201
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You're right. It would be possible to connect Star Trek to that of Girls und Panzer.
Having established that it is possible, I feel compelled to say...
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Maybe I am just remembering such deranged events as the TNG/X-Men crossover series.
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Old 2013-04-12, 02:36   Link #6202
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It's a river, so unless you have 40+ tons or so, the position will be affected, either by the water itself or the shifting of the river bed.

But most importantly, the scene itself was dramatized, so we know that if we match up the pictures the distance was less than two meters.
As I recall, the M3 Lee weighs 27 tons, and eyeballing the river, it looks like it was flowing at a fairly decent clip. Miho does specifically say that she wants the Porsche Tiger and the heavier tanks upriver, so that there's less force on the lighter tanks.

Given all this, it's reasonable to assume that Rabbit Team stood a chance of being swept away had they been abandoned.

But I suppose that would be another delusion and or speculation.
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Old 2013-04-12, 05:10   Link #6203
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Sooooo. Would the Galaxy-class USS Enterprise count as a future model for an Academy ship with its families on board and the ability to train new Star Fleet personel?

It is a little small, but this is deep space, and unlike the gigantic Ooarai on a peaceful ocean, Enterprise is suppose to be in unexplored space (British model?)
Star Trek's Starbase 74 (massive mushroom shaped starbase) would be it's equivalent to GnP's city ships. ST:ENT shows a starbase with low warp speed capability. Black Forest remind me of Trek's Red Squad's "strictly by the book" approach.
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Old 2013-04-12, 05:18   Link #6204
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Well, given Star Trek, you might wind up with 24 century girls running holodeck simulation of ship squadron combat as they practice Picard Maneuver while shouting tally-ho, and then freak temporal distortion happened, dragging the legendary Yukari to their world...

because it's Star Trek.
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Old 2013-04-12, 06:04   Link #6205
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Well, given Star Trek, you might wind up with 24 century girls running holodeck simulation of ship squadron combat as they practice Picard Maneuver while shouting tally-ho, and then freak temporal distortion happened, dragging the legendary Yukari to their world...

because it's Star Trek.
Heck, with a holo deck you could do WWII tanks! Now Yukari's time-shifted appearance would work better.
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Old 2013-04-12, 08:55   Link #6206
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Heck, with a holo deck you could do WWII tanks! Now Yukari's time-shifted appearance would work better.
Indeed. Wasn't there an episode of DS9 where O'Brien and Bashir come out of the holodeck explaining that they were just flying Spitfires in the Battle of Britain? So messing around in tanks (with girls in them) is entirely feasible in the Star Trek universe.

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Old 2013-04-12, 10:18   Link #6207
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Oh wow.




Apparently BD/DVD 4 will include this bonus, a GuP version of Moeyo Sensha Gakkou
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Old 2013-04-12, 10:49   Link #6208
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You seem to think that this is the "best" option, but here you run a risk. The thing you ignored as a "crack" might actually have been a detail. For example, before Ep11, you might term all the little hints that KMM isn't as good as it is hyped to be as "cracks". Yet in Ep11 it starts to blossom in full glory, and it would have looked much cruder if they hadn't put those little "cracks" in beforehand. In fact, if they hadn't prepared the field like this, I might well have joined Willx.
See here we disagree as well. Based on your interpretation of onscreen events you've decided that KMM is basically incompetent. Yet that's never actually an observation supported by the characters who all describe KMM ans being strong and continually keeping Ooarai "on the ropes" during the match.

Moreover it's necessary for KMM to be strong with a fatal weakness exemplified by the character differences between Miho and her mother, otherwise the victory would not be meaningful story wise. Again, this is what the story tells us in the aftermath, taking the time to have Maho and even her Mother acknowledge Miho's strength. If the fault had been KMM's weakness they should have focused on blaming their training, tactics, and Maho.

Note how the story spends more time on the family reconciliation, than the victory parade which is in literal response to the supposed big threat (closing the school). The victory parade itself is characterized a a celebration of a sport teams's accomplishment, not as a town thankful that their entire lives will not suffer complete upheaval.

I guess at this point there's not much that my perspective is going to offer to have you re-evaluate your view of the show so I guess I should let it drop. I just don't understand what an insistance on treating every scene with Evangelical literalism actually buys you? What is the advantage? It seems you have to construct complicated scenarios to explain them and they no longer match up with the dramatic narrative structure, which by the way is also part of the visual evidence.
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Old 2013-04-12, 10:52   Link #6209
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It is a little small
A little small? It's tiny! Practically microscopic! Carries barely 1000 people. An uninspired, unambitious project, it's not even worth mentioning in the same sentence as the academy ships.
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Old 2013-04-12, 10:54   Link #6210
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Because it would be AWESOME!

Forget holodecks tho'. I want the girls on the bridge of a 'vintage' Constitution class heavy cruiser.
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Old 2013-04-12, 12:01   Link #6211
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The GuP arrangement of Panzerlied with the vocals from Battle of the Bulge:

Imagine if the girls actually sung that during the show, that would have made that episode even better and it would had rival the Russian song.
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Old 2013-04-12, 13:28   Link #6212
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Indeed. Wasn't there an episode of DS9 where O'Brien and Bashir come out of the holodeck explaining that they were just flying Spitfires in the Battle of Britain? So messing around in tanks (with girls in them) is entirely feasible in the Star Trek universe.

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"What were we doing? Oh, just a simulated tank battle where we replaced all the crews with mini-skirted high school girls." They aren't going to look like perverts at all...
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Old 2013-04-12, 13:35   Link #6213
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In Star Trek? Naw, they would get an odd look and that would be it.

They have people going in to play out things ranging form Beowulf, to Shakespeare, to the Alamo, to the Battle of Britain, to 1940s detective novels, to fantasy neo-porn, or life simulators.
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Old 2013-04-12, 13:45   Link #6214
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People already use holodecks and holosuites for porn, after all. The only restriction seems to be "if you try to make it of a real person, accept that that real person might get really pissed at you." Girls with miniskirts driving tanks? People might think you're strange for coming up with the idea, but I am absolutely certain it would not be seen as perverted, compared to many of the scenarios Quark offers for his holosuites.
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Old 2013-04-12, 23:51   Link #6215
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Sooooo. Would the Galaxy-class USS Enterprise count as a future model for an Academy ship with its families on board and the ability to train new Star Fleet personel?

It is a little small, but this is deep space, and unlike the gigantic Ooarai on a peaceful ocean, Enterprise is suppose to be in unexplored space (British model?)
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You're right. It would be possible to connect Star Trek to that of Girls und Panzer.
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Having established that it is possible, I feel compelled to say...
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Maybe I am just remembering such deranged events as the TNG/X-Men crossover series.
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Star Trek's Starbase 74 (massive mushroom shaped starbase) would be it's equivalent to GnP's city ships. ST:ENT shows a starbase with low warp speed capability. Black Forest remind me of Trek's Red Squad's "strictly by the book" approach.
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Well, given Star Trek, you might wind up with 24 century girls running holodeck simulation of ship squadron combat as they practice Picard Maneuver while shouting tally-ho, and then freak temporal distortion happened, dragging the legendary Yukari to their world...

because it's Star Trek.
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Heck, with a holo deck you could do WWII tanks! Now Yukari's time-shifted appearance would work better.
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Indeed. Wasn't there an episode of DS9 where O'Brien and Bashir come out of the holodeck explaining that they were just flying Spitfires in the Battle of Britain? So messing around in tanks (with girls in them) is entirely feasible in the Star Trek universe.

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"What were we doing? Oh, just a simulated tank battle where we replaced all the crews with mini-skirted high school girls." They aren't going to look like perverts at all...
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In Star Trek? Naw, they would get an odd look and that would be it.

They have people going in to play out things ranging form Beowulf, to Shakespeare, to the Alamo, to the Battle of Britain, to 1940s detective novels, to fantasy neo-porn, or life simulators.
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People already use holodecks and holosuites for porn, after all. The only restriction seems to be "if you try to make it of a real person, accept that that real person might get really pissed at you." Girls with miniskirts driving tanks? People might think you're strange for coming up with the idea, but I am absolutely certain it would not be seen as perverted, compared to many of the scenarios Quark offers for his holosuites.
FINALLY. A GuP thread topic, I CAN ACTUALLY FOLLOW.

Also, Nishizumi is actually a Starfleet captain of the Steamrunner-class, USS Dreamriser, who was comissioned in 2410 into Task Force Seven. And [Girls und Panzer] was a holonovel that Pion made using her ship and crew as inspiration. In the Prime universe, the actual crew lent their voices to Enter Enter Mission, and a song about what's their favorite WW2 tank, as well as the characters based on them and their duty officers. However, due to a temporal distortion, the crew got transported to the 21st century, and in the chaos messed up the plans of a studio in another dimension who were also making Girls und Panzer. Like Starfleet officers, they worked to repair the timeline and complete the missing 2 episodes of GuP before returning to the 25th century.

This is the story of the making of Episodes 11 and 12. True story.
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Old 2013-04-13, 00:35   Link #6216
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Well done MeisterBabylon!
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Old 2013-04-13, 06:33   Link #6217
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Girls und Panzer Quest. Because someone had to do it.

Also, that sketch of Yukari Guderian is featured. ;D
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Old 2013-04-13, 07:36   Link #6218
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Because it would be AWESOME!

Forget holodecks tho'. I want the girls on the bridge of a 'vintage' Constitution class heavy cruiser.
At least mini-skirts would be similar.
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Old 2013-04-13, 09:34   Link #6219
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Girls und Panzer Quest. Because someone had to do it.

Also, that sketch of Yukari Guderian is featured. ;D
I randomly scrolled around in the thread and landed on the two-post throwaway idea of "Girls und BattleMechs," which caused me to chuckle... rather a lot.

The linkages are fairly easy, though with some of the nation-blending in Battletech you'd have to break some Houses into smaller groupings.

Saunders gets more Syrtis March-flavored units while St. Gloriana is more regular House Davion, for one.

Kuromorimine this year went for classic Elsie Lyran Commonwealth Armed Forces and has two companies of Zeuses and Atlases.

Pravda would be running all Vindicators but maybe have a Stalker thrown onto the pile.

Chihatan school is solid Panthers?

This would leave Oarai as a former-SLDF merc unit that's not had a lot of good contracts lately.

(This hurts my head far less than the GuP/TNG crossover.)
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Old 2013-04-13, 10:15   Link #6220
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At least mini-skirts would be similar.
Somewhat relevant...

http://games.renpy.org/game/starlight0.shtml

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