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Old 2013-03-08, 23:16   Link #641
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It's episode 9 out of 24.
It's 9 out of 25 you mean (don't cut me an episode short). I hope there is no recap episode though.
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Old 2013-03-09, 00:54   Link #642
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dare ? ahhh poor shinobu-chan & got scolded too
but finally an Arata episode.
ah looks like shinobu's really hung up on Arata, with Arata always beating her in the first round.
looks like Shinbu's views on Karuta( and team play)really clashes with Chihaya. Arata seems to be leaning now towards chihaya's views. or rather returning to it.
that ending ouch, that would really hurt. much so because I understand why Arata did it. Still the sensei is very much in the right. wonder how it can be resolved.
loved how it was superimposed on what was happening on shinobu's side and her disappointment about the birdman competition.
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Old 2013-03-09, 01:14   Link #643
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It's 9 out of 25 you mean (don't cut me an episode short). I hope there is no recap episode though.
I was totally accounting for a recap episode...no, I lie . Good catch.

Er, to make this post more meaningful:
I thought it was interesting (if I interpreted it correctly) that Arata wanted to make his presence unknown to Taichi & Chihaya (observing like an unseen "god", maybe?), and yet Murao blew it for him. Hopefully, it didn't negatively impact the team (I'm looking at you, Taichi).
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Old 2013-03-09, 01:56   Link #644
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I thought it was interesting (if I interpreted it correctly) that Arata wanted to make his presence unknown to Taichi & Chihaya (observing like an unseen "god", maybe?), and yet Murao blew it for him. Hopefully, it didn't negatively impact the team (I'm looking at you, Taichi).
I thought he simply didn't want to distract them during the team event.
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Old 2013-03-09, 07:04   Link #645
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It's not confirmed that's what he wants.
Yeah, it is not confirmed, but it is the only thing I can think of right now. Hence, my line of thought is the way it is. I believe that the series has to put Arata, Chihaya, and Taichi together again for that dynamic to be better played out. Arata is supposed to be one of the 3 main characters, but he is out of the spotlight so much of the series so far. It just makes more sense that they come together for their final push in High School, and for Arata to grow that way as well. He can't be a loner forever, and it would be too cruel for the author to do that to him.
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Old 2013-03-09, 10:07   Link #646
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It's 9 out of 25 you mean (don't cut me an episode short). I hope there is no recap episode though.
If this season has a recap episode like the 1st season's recap episode, I wouldn't mind too much. I thought the 1st season recap episode which mixed in all those little omake vignettes was hilarious.
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Old 2013-03-09, 11:02   Link #647
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It's a very good episode. Some focus and development on Arata, one of the protagonist with the least screen time. No hard feeling to the guy he socks.

Poor Shinobu for raining on Birdman competition, she was so much looking forward to it. Weird as she may be, it's what I like about her character.
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Old 2013-03-09, 11:23   Link #648
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Any speculation on what will transpire when she meets Chihaya in the Queen event? I would expect Shinobu to win once again, but you never know.
Chihaya will lose once again, but she will put up a very good fight against Shinobu which will impress her. Chihaya has made a lot of progress but it's still too soon for her to beat the Queen. Shinobu's level of skill is godly.



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Yeah, it is not confirmed, but it is the only thing I can think of right now. Hence, my line of thought is the way it is. I believe that the series has to put Arata, Chihaya, and Taichi together again for that dynamic to be better played out. Taichi is supposed to be one of the 3 main characters, but he is out of the spotlight so much of the series so far. It just makes more sense that they come together for their final push in High School, and for Arata to grow that way as well. He can't be a loner forever, and it would be too cruel for the author to do that to him.
He could always try to build his own karuta club, just like Chihaya has done. I agree with you he wants to transfer to Mizusawa though. Whether or not his wish will come true remains to be seen. Taichi, Chihaya and Arata will definitely be reunited at some point (it's necessary for the narrative), but it may not happen until college. That's assuming the story goes this far of course, which I certainly hope. It would suck if the manga ended after the protagonists graduate high school.

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If this season has a recap episode like the 1st season's recap episode, I wouldn't mind too much. I thought the 1st season recap episode which mixed in all those little omake vignettes was hilarious.
The omakes were indeed very funny, but if I had to choose, I'd rather have no recap episode at all.
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Old 2013-03-09, 11:29   Link #649
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t would suck if the manga ended after the protagonists graduate high school.
The mains are in their second year of high school now with one more year to go, correct?

Oh, and did anyone else think it strange that Shinobu was wearing her school uniform? We saw her in casual clothes during that phone conversation a few episodes ago. Heck, even the high school competitors aren't wearing their uniforms. What's up with Shinobu? Was she also wearing her uniform in the manga version of her encounter with Arata?

By the way, even though I love both Chihaya and Kanade, this old guy thinks Shinobu is the sexiest female in the show.
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Old 2013-03-09, 11:39   Link #650
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The mains are in their second year of high school now with one more year to go, correct?
Yep, the mains are all in their second year, except Tsukuba and Sumire of course. There is no third year in the club.

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Oh, and did anyone else think it strange that Shinobu was wearing her school uniform? We saw her in casual clothes during that phone conversation a few episodes ago. Heck, even the high school competitors aren't wearing their uniforms. What's up with Shinobu? Was she also wearing her uniform in the manga version of her encounter with Arata?
Now that you mention it, it's a bit odd. She wore her uniform in the manga as well, bastek66 posted a pic a few pages back. I have no clue why she was wearing it. Edit: I was looking through old screencaps of episode 13 and she wore her uniform when she visited the shrine back then as well.

Incidentally, Chihaya and the others came in their uniforms as well (both this year and last year). They changed right before the competition started.

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By the way, even though I love both Chihaya and Kanade, this old guy thinks Shinobu is the sexiest female in the show.
Excellent taste. It's the sex hair and her icy eyes that are doing it for me. The mole adds a touch of sexiness as well.
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Old 2013-03-09, 12:22   Link #651
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By the way, even though I love both Chihaya and Kanade, this old guy thinks Shinobu is the sexiest female in the show.
Oh definitely. Chihaya may be pretty and Kanade cute but Shinobu is where the sexy is at.
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Old 2013-03-09, 17:36   Link #652
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That was a great episode thanks to the new perspective of Arata. Truth be told I was starting to feel like episodes with the karuta club were treading the same ground even with the new members, so Arata's POV was a refreshing change that had lots to offer. And yeah I think Shinobu is sexiest as well.
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Old 2013-03-09, 19:29   Link #653
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Sexiest girl in Chihayafuru? Heh, I never really thought about it believe it or not.

I don't think it precisely answers the question, but if I was going to ask one of them out, it would be Kana.
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Old 2013-03-10, 12:37   Link #654
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This week's episode curiously has two title poems: the words given on the title screen, "wata no hara," are the opening words for both #11 & #76.

Here are Mostow's translations of both poems:

#11

O tell her, at least,
that I’ve rowed out, heading towards
the innumerable isles
of the ocean’s wide plain,
you fishing boats of the sea-folk!

#76

As I row out into
the wide sea-plain and look
all around me--
the white waves of the offing
could be mistaken for clouds!

The point of the title I think lies in its ambiguity: the animators could certainly have added more words to specify which poem they meant, but they chose not to. So we are left in a place where we cannot identify which poem is the title poem, and have to take them both at once.

The title's deliberate ambiguity connects thematically to the question Arata mentally asks of Murao-san: "what does it mean to be good at karuta?" Murao believes that "true skill" in karuta is exemplified by individual match play, as opposed to team play. But as Arata plays with the Fukui West team, he remembers what it was like to play as a kid with Chihaya and Taichi, and realizes that ability in karuta involves both individual and team skills. Like the title, the essence of karuta is ambiguously two things at once: the team play that contributes to individual success, and vice versa.

Murao I think means his point technically and qualitatively. But Arata means his response in an experiential sense as well. Team play is a form of social life, and brings with it the pleasures of sharing experiences with friends. To be good at karuta in a team sense is also to be good at living, to be living well, to be having fun, as the anime usually puts it. From this perspective, Chihaya's pursuit of karuta for its own sake and Sumire's pursuit of karuta for the sake of love are part of the same purpose of living life well. Arata's question to Murao implicitly raises the question of how life is best lived, and answers it implicitly in terms of the experiences achieved through team play.

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I loved the moment when Arata put on his glasses, and began to play in earnest. There is no question he refuses to cheat in any meaningful sense: he only puts them on once the match is decided. More than that, when he does put on his glasses, he has to know he will be caught. His sensei from the Nagumo Society is standing almost at his shoulder, and he is about to play at a level that will immediately draw attention to him and to identify him at once. But he does so anyway, out of a profound desire to respect his opponent and to contribute to his team. He doesn't have to--he can just sit, let the cards run out, and get out unobserved, having fulfilled his intention of letting the real Fukui West players play at Omi Jingu. But Arata puts on his glasses anyway. It is a remarkable moment, of true personal courage and commitment to karuta.

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PS Definitely Kana.
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Old 2013-03-10, 13:33   Link #655
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My vote goes to (thin) Shinobu.
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Old 2013-03-10, 21:55   Link #656
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The point of the title I think lies in its ambiguity: the animators could certainly have added more words to specify which poem they meant, but they chose not to. So we are left in a place where we cannot identify which poem is the title poem, and have to take them both at once.
You are probably talking about Arata's signature poems. They represents Arata's determination for taking the step, such as making the promise with his parents.

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Old 2013-03-10, 23:10   Link #657
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What a great episode I was glad to see Shinobu have some screen time. Nice to see how she knew Arata from before. I love her so much, such an interesting character. I would love an episode with her POV.
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Old 2013-03-11, 14:46   Link #658
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You are probably talking about Arata's signature poems. They represents Arata's determination for taking the step, such as making the promise with his parents.

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Thanks, GundamZZ. This is definitely a case where one had to be familiar with the manga to pick up the reference in the anime episode title. The manga graphic does indeed show cards #11 and #76. So, as GundamZZ points out, the episode title is making a reference to Arata's signature cards.

So why does Suetsugu choose these two poems to be signature poems for Arata?

#11 we have seen before: it was the title card for episode 4, and is the card Arata takes in the OP. Its author was Sangi Ono no Takamura, who wrote the poem on the occasion of his being sent into exile in the Oki Islands. The poem fits Arata, if we think of him as being in exile or having been sent away to Fukui. And the separation figured in the poem between the poet and the recipient of his message, whether a relative or a lover, fits the distance that usually divides Arata from his friends in Tokyo.

#76 gives us another sea-traveler, out on the ocean. Since what he sees is "the wide sea-plain," and the waves mixing at the horizon with the waves, the poem suggests an empty expanse and a poet who is alone amidst that emptiness. It is possible the poem serves to underline Arata's solitude or loneliness in Fukui. Here I think of Arata at the train crossing in the OP: in contrast to Taichi and Chihaya, who both see him (and each other), Arata seems to be looking at no one, to be by himself. But we don't really know enough about Arata and his life in Fukui to be sure of this.

Another possibility is that the sea-expanse simply indicates the poet's distance from land and people. In this case the poem brings out the distance that separates Arata from his friends.

One last connection between the poems is that both give us travelers who have no clear destination. The "innumerable isles" of #11 give us no clue to just where the poet is rowing; and the poet of #76 rows out into a sea-plain that offers no landmarks or sense of direction. Both are on a voyage but to nowhere in particular. I take from this that Arata does not yet know his goal or purpose; and that where he is in Fukui is not his final destination. Since Arata's goal to become meijin is quite clear and definite, the lack of purpose and destination suggested by the poems must refer not to karuta, but to his life, and perhaps to his relationship with the people he left behind in Tokyo.

GundamZZ, could you explain why you think the poems suggest Arata's determination? Also, why did you refer to Shinobu in your post--I don't follow her connection to the manga panels you cited?
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Old 2013-03-12, 00:10   Link #659
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Arata asks his parents to promise him something. It's similar to "asking fishing boat to deliver messages to his people".
Shinobu's connection with Wataya is not in this manga panel. If there's no accident, her watanohara humor will be covered next week. This joke is hard to comprehend, but it shows her cuteness and quirkiness.
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So this isn't related to the show itself, but here's an audio clip of Tsutomu's seiyuu Tsubasa Yonaga doing his best impression of Mamoru Miyano's Taichi and holy shit, he's good.
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