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Old 2012-06-16, 01:19   Link #1
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Magical Girl Equivalent of Super Robot Wars.

This is an idea I've recently had.

Given the huge popularity of Madoka Magica, the legacy of Sailor Moon, the memorable moe of Card Captor Sakura, the variety of the PreCure shows, and the longevity of Lyrical Nanoha, do you think it might be cool and/or successful to have a magical girl equivalent of Super Robot Wars?


I know that I definitely would check it out if one was made. What do my fellow anime fans think?
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Old 2012-06-16, 01:25   Link #2
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I think it could work considering that Magical Girl genres have always had an element that changes the story and its concept. If you take Rayearth, it's the a Mecha/Magical Girl hybrid, it was a really well done story that took the Magical Girl elements and mixed with Mecha. Madoka Magica was a Magical Girl title but sort of "betrayed" it in its own way because the story kept getting darker and more complex as times went on. The Magical Girl element was intact, but I think they focused on the complexity of the story a little bit to focus on the magic aspect.

Oh yes, it has to have great music like Senhime Zesshou Symphogear because it neatly combined song, dance, and music added with the Magical Girl status. It was a truly an enjoyable anime, at least to me. In other words, it can be cool idea but it has to have a great plot, key elements that keep the Magical Girl status intact, great music, and also characters that you can connect with.
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Old 2012-06-16, 01:31   Link #3
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There's already a game that has the concept of "magical girls joining forces".

The game is Magical Battle Arena.
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Old 2012-06-16, 01:37   Link #4
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Well we already have something like this in Magical Battle Arena, but I would love to see a more polished version with a ton more characters. MBA is kind of Nanoha-centric which sort of diminished its value as an encompassing magical girl fighting game in my eyes.
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Old 2012-06-16, 01:53   Link #5
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Actually it already exists: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Moon_Wars

Battle Moon Wars is a direct reference to SRW, with complete parody animations of SRW, like Fate Testarossa having the animations of Daizengar which she originally referenced.

There's also Queen's Blade and Queen's Gate Spiral Chaos, which were developed by Banpresto themselves.

EDIT: Actually seems like its another game, not Battle Moon Wars which had Fate and other Nanoha and Mahou Shoujo characters.

I don't play those games, but which ever they are, they are out there and are complete references and parodies to SRW.
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Old 2012-06-16, 02:00   Link #6
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I'd only wonder how a game like this wouldn't be a success. It'd sell itself on brand recognition alone.

Whatever Japan might do for Super Magi Wars, just make sure they can work on balancing issues. I want to use Nanoha without being considered cheap.

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Actually it already exists: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Moon_Wars

Battle Moon Wars is a direct reference to SRW, with complete parody animations of SRW, like Fate Testarossa having the animations of Daizengar which she originally referenced.
Battle Moon Wars is a Type Moon crossover not a Magical Girl crossover.
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Old 2012-06-16, 02:11   Link #7
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Whatever Japan might do for Super Magi Wars, just make sure they can work on balancing issues. I want to use Nanoha without being considered cheap.
Homuhomu would totally be top tier. Godoka would be...well...god tier. PMMM needs a nerf.
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Old 2012-06-16, 02:40   Link #8
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They are plenty of magical girls that can equal god and time skippers.
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Old 2012-06-16, 03:00   Link #9
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The concept would work, yes.

The one possible roadblock I can see is, compared to Robot Anime shows, Magical Girl genre has a lot more "anime based on source manga material", thus licensing issues are a lot more complex.

Most successful robot anime are actually Anime original produtions, where as Magic Girls are more often than not, based on printed material with publishers who hold the licences separate from the anime production studios.
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Old 2012-06-16, 03:12   Link #10
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Wait, Nanoha is already the equivalent of Super Robot Wars. But that would be the problem since that series probably has the most interesting abilities if it were to be a combat game. Well, it depends if you consider Mai-Hime to be a magical girl anime. Said game would be really colorful. But I have a bias towards platformers, if we're talking about that...

You'd have a lot of VA references, most definitely. One humorous one is probably Mami and Yuno or Homura and multiple characters (!) in Nanoha StrikerS

Nanoha probably needs a nerf. SLB's evolving from a bomb to a nuclear weapon as of late.
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They are plenty of magical girls that can equal god and time skippers.
I'll concede that there are more than a few time skippers/freezers, but which magical girls can purposefully will you out of existence like an actual creator being? And don't be smart and say Belldandy or someone (even as lulzy as that would be).

And I actually don't see why Nanoha would need a nerf. I mean as powerful as the magical pink uber beam of friendship is portrayed, it hardly is a hax ability. I mean, heck, why not nerf Hayate? Isn't she technically more magically powerful than Nanoha?
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Old 2012-06-16, 05:37   Link #12
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There's already a game that has the concept of "magical girls joining forces".

The game is Magical Battle Arena.
I second (or third ) Magical Battle Arena for a concept (and a game) that could be a rough equivalent of Super Robot Wars. I remember playing it some years ago, and while available characters were quite limited, apart from the main Nanoha characters, you could also play as Sakura Kinomoto from CCS, even a couple of main characters from Slayers, twin magical girls from a lesser known VN, and a few characters I didn't recognize.

Each of them had their own Story Mode. Unfortunately, I don't know if somebody ever got around to translating it all, but it was a lot of fun back then even if untranslated. It even has its own thread here on AnimeSuki.
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Old 2012-06-16, 06:37   Link #13
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I probably should have specified that I was thinking of an anime like this moreso than a game of it... although it is cool that there is a game like this (and Battle Moon Wars looks cool too).


About balancing any future games, that wouldn't be too hard. Grief Syndrome, I think, might provide a good basis for how Homura's time powers would work (and then just strictly limit how often this "Time Special" can be activated - Otherwise, yeah, it's hax ). Likewise, just limit the most powerful attack or spell or maneuver of each magical girl (Nanoha, Hayate, etc...) to a set number of "Special" uses. That should keep things reasonably balanced.
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I'll concede that there are more than a few time skippers/freezers, but which magical girls can purposefully will you out of existence like an actual creator being? And don't be smart and say Belldandy or someone (even as lulzy as that would be).

Sailor Moon....eventually (Sailor Cosmos). She and Madoka might be the same in many ways...save Moon had to go the long way through time while Madoka has Homura's time loops.
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I don't really like Super Robot Wars but I could see a crossover of this magnitude working if you you can get the licenses that is.

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You'd have a lot of VA references, most definitely. One humorous one is probably Mami and Yuno or Homura and multiple characters (!) in Nanoha StrikerS.
You could take things a step further have the character interact in very interesting ways. Like Homura speaking with Fate or Usagi with Sakura but it has to be nartural and not contrived.
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I don't really like Super Robot Wars but I could see a crossover of this magnitude working if you you can get the licenses that is.
As far as I know, you don't like mecha in general, so I take that as your reason for not liking SRW.

But here we are talking about the crossover format of SRW, which has proven over time to be an extremely successful formula that has influenced lots of other crossover turn based strategy games.

Character interaction and cleverly written intertwined plot are two of the reasons why SRW has been so successful. No mecha out there has a better plot than SRW simply because the writers always improve on the original plots and multiply them with endless possibilities of the crossovers.
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You know there are lots of foreign magical girl shows such as the Winx Club or WITCH, could they go into the crossover?
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I know both series, but aside from having standalone games in much lower consoles (at best the Game Boy Advance, with Winx Club developed with better quality), they're not that famous.
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Old 2012-06-20, 08:17   Link #19
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On the subject of magical girl crossovers, there is Magical Chaser:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical...ust_of_Dreams~
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I probably should have specified that I was thinking of an anime like this moreso than a game of it... although it is cool that there is a game like this (and Battle Moon Wars looks cool too).
There were some OVAs back in the 80s that had the Studio Pierrot magical girls cross over. I've only seen one long time ago (Alien X from A Zone), but it had Mami, Emi, Pelsia, and Yumi from Studio Pierrot's famous series. The story didn't really tie into any of the real stories, it was more of a fanservice thing (which I guess SRW is anyway).

Studio Pierrot probably had an easier time with the licensing since they did all the anime (and companies back then were probably less anal). Now it would probably be a clusterfuck.
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