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Old 2013-04-13, 17:57   Link #2901
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^so does the kid in ch 15 p 7.

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just as planned? he is even talking about characters he created much like aizen 'created' ichigo... this is creeping me out now...
Lol and the other kid has squinty eyes with a creepy smile too
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Old 2013-04-13, 19:04   Link #2902
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^woah! I was so fixated on the aizen kid i didnt even notice that the other one looks just like gin... it would be too much if the third kid was wearing sunglasses i guess =) that or that's how tousen originally looked. maybe he was a fat kid lol
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Old 2013-04-14, 16:40   Link #2903
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Gin/Wonderweiss fat kid is Yammi lol
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Old 2013-04-14, 23:35   Link #2904
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I think they are saying that zangetsu was really the manifestation of his quincy power but taking the form of a zanpakuto because of the natural abilities from being the son of a shinigami. That explains why his zanpakuto's abilities involve flinging masses of dense energy like projectiles. The only thing I don't understand is why neither uryuu or his father could tell. That is also why his bankai can't be repaired because while it is in the form of a zanpakuto it is actually at core quincy abilities. He'll learn of his quincy powers learn to control reishi and use it to repair zangetsu. they won't have him not use his sword for the final battle
Ryuuken knows, of course. He knew Ichigo's mother, after all. And by now I'm willing to bet Uryuu knows. Why? It's the obvious surprise development, of course, rendered more and more likely the longer Uryuu and his father stay out of the present portion of this arc, but there are logical reasons why, as well. Juhabach knows what Ichigo is, certainly, but no one asks how he would know, even though we see no evidence of him in the flashback. Did someone who would know (Masaki? Ryuuken? Grandma Ishida? Aizen?) tell him? Did he figure it out due to some Quincy sense? Either one of those methods could just as easily tell Uryuu.
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Old 2013-04-15, 00:41   Link #2905
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Juhabach knows what Ichigo is, certainly, but no one asks how he would know, even though we see no evidence of him in the flashback. Did someone who would know (Masaki? Ryuuken? Grandma Ishida? Aizen?) tell him?
of course. it was shitritter C. aka masaki
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Old 2013-04-15, 10:09   Link #2906
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I think they are saying that zangetsu was really the manifestation of his quincy power but taking the form of a zanpakuto because of the natural abilities from being the son of a shinigami. That explains why his zanpakuto's abilities involve flinging masses of dense energy like projectiles. The only thing I don't understand is why neither uryuu or his father could tell. That is also why his bankai can't be repaired because while it is in the form of a zanpakuto it is actually at core quincy abilities. He'll learn of his quincy powers learn to control reishi and use it to repair zangetsu. they won't have him not use his sword for the final battle
That's actually fridge horror-ific if it were true - the quincies were initially hunted down due to the fact they killed rather than purifying souls, so if Zangetsu is made of quincy powers, then all of the many hundreds (if not thousands) of hollows that Ichigo has "purified" (not to mention the huge number that must have been in Ulquiorra) have really been erased from existence, including Inoue's brother - now Soul Society really should have a reason to stop him, yet they actually end up giving him his powers back, so that he can cause even more damage
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Old 2013-04-15, 11:14   Link #2907
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That's actually fridge horror-ific if it were true - the quincies were initially hunted down due to the fact they killed rather than purifying souls, so if Zangetsu is made of quincy powers, then all of the many hundreds (if not thousands) of hollows that Ichigo has "purified" (not to mention the huge number that must have been in Ulquiorra) have really been erased from existence, including Inoue's brother - now Soul Society really should have a reason to stop him, yet they actually end up giving him his powers back, so that he can cause even more damage
Surely Soul Society would have noticed that and would have stopped him if that was the case or not give back his powers. As the world would have been screwed if it was. As for Jaha does he not know that this war could bring about the end of the world?
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Old 2013-04-15, 16:15   Link #2908
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Old 2013-04-16, 14:58   Link #2909
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Surely Soul Society would have noticed that and would have stopped him if that was the case or not give back his powers. As the world would have been screwed if it was. As for Jaha does he not know that this war could bring about the end of the world?
Isn't that what the bad guys usually want? Either to end the world outright, or to "end" the way it currently works so that they can remake it in their image?
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Old 2013-04-16, 19:54   Link #2910
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Isn't that what the bad guys usually want? Either to end the world outright, or to "end" the way it currently works so that they can remake it in their image?
How are they going to remake it inn their image. If you need the Shinigami to make the worlds stay stable. Unless they somehow invade God's place which I hope the Royal guards take them out in an instent if they do. But then what if the reason they went to SS first was to prep up before storming God's place. So stealing bankai's and getting them 5 secret weapons things. Because thats the only reason I can think of they would need to do so.
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Old 2013-04-16, 23:00   Link #2911
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That's actually fridge horror-ific if it were true - the quincies were initially hunted down due to the fact they killed rather than purifying souls, so if Zangetsu is made of quincy powers, then all of the many hundreds (if not thousands) of hollows that Ichigo has "purified" (not to mention the huge number that must have been in Ulquiorra) have really been erased from existence, including Inoue's brother - now Soul Society really should have a reason to stop him, yet they actually end up giving him his powers back, so that he can cause even more damage
But Ichigo's soul ribbon is that of a soul reaper, that was how he was able to locate his zanpakto way back when. Also, I'm pretty sure that Rukia would've noticed that Ichigo was destroying and not purifying the Hollows. And he was able to perform a konso on Pluses using the hilt of his zanpakuto (though that might be because he was using Rukia's power at the time, I don't recall him using Zangetsu for that). At any rate, I am certain Rukia would've said something if Ichigo had actually been destroying souls instead of purifying them.
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Old 2013-04-17, 01:44   Link #2912
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How are they going to remake it inn their image. If you need the Shinigami to make the worlds stay stable. Unless they somehow invade God's place which I hope the Royal guards take them out in an instent if they do. But then what if the reason they went to SS first was to prep up before storming God's place. So stealing bankai's and getting them 5 secret weapons things. Because thats the only reason I can think of they would need to do so.
I believe it's been stated that the imbalance that Quincy power causes would result in the dissolution of the walls between the spirit realms and the human realm. Maybe that's what Juha Bach is looking for.

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But Ichigo's soul ribbon is that of a soul reaper, that was how he was able to locate his zanpakto way back when. Also, I'm pretty sure that Rukia would've noticed that Ichigo was destroying and not purifying the Hollows. And he was able to perform a konso on Pluses using the hilt of his zanpakuto (though that might be because he was using Rukia's power at the time, I don't recall him using Zangetsu for that). At any rate, I am certain Rukia would've said something if Ichigo had actually been destroying souls instead of purifying them.
Ichigo's both a Quincy and a Shinigami. Most likely anything he does using his zanpakuto works the same as it would with a "normal" Shinigami, since it is the weapon of a Shinigami (even if his odd nature doesn't allow his zanpakuto to be reforged in the normal manner). This is why he can send Pluses to SS like normal, and why the Hollows and Arrancars he's slain with Zangetsu apparently die normally.
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Old 2013-04-17, 06:32   Link #2913
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Chapter is out and masaki is pregnant with aizens baby. I bet ryukens father, juha bach, will not be happy about this.
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Old 2013-04-17, 06:59   Link #2914
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oh wow! Why Urahara always showed up in the most critical situation?? it's like he knows everything...
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Old 2013-04-17, 07:04   Link #2915
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I bet the procedure Urahara will use to save Masaki will make her lose her powers, explaining how she was killed by a hollow as weak as Grand Fisher.
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Old 2013-04-17, 07:09   Link #2916
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I bet the procedure Urahara will use to save Masaki will make her lose her powers, explaining how she was killed by a hollow as weak as Grand Fisher.
I bet she won't and the only way to save her is to pass it to her kid... I smell a naruto rip off coming.
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Old 2013-04-17, 07:21   Link #2917
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oh wow! Why Urahara always showed up in the most critical situation?? it's like he knows everything...
Well he does have first hand experience in dealing with hollowfication. But this time it is with a human girl who is a quincy. Soo maybe the way to save her would be similar to the way he saved the Vizards.

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I believe it's been stated that the imbalance that Quincy power causes would result in the dissolution of the walls between the spirit realms and the human realm. Maybe that's what Juha Bach is looking for.
Yh that was said before the attack on SS in this arc IIRC. What reason would Juha have in doing so. Surely he knows there is life after death. TBH his plan so far is silly.
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Old 2013-04-17, 08:24   Link #2918
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Well he does have first hand experience in dealing with hollowfication. But this time it is with a human girl who is a quincy. Soo maybe the way to save her would be similar to the way he saved the Vizards.
In before Masaki is just a Quincy Vizard, but can't control the inner hollow properly so uses her powers to suppress it at all times, thus making it so she cannot use them for anything else.
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Old 2013-04-17, 09:53   Link #2919
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I expect Urahara to say "Just as planned" considering how he appears out of nowhere.
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Old 2013-04-17, 11:47   Link #2920
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In before Masaki is just a Quincy Vizard, but can't control the inner hollow properly so uses her powers to suppress it at all times, thus making it so she cannot use them for anything else.
In before we find out Isshin adopted Ichigo because WhatsHisName couldn't raise him due to mommy issues.
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