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Old 2013-06-06, 15:18   Link #3441
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Bach is the original Quincy if I remember correctly...so a piece of him being w/ all Quincies isn't too far fetched.
So Bach expressing himself in such way within ichigo...is like expressing ichigo's quincy's power...mmmm could be indeed.
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Old 2013-06-06, 16:33   Link #3442
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Sorry to be THAT person who constantly rants....but it's because of this:

Bleach used to be my favorite series at one point. I loved looking forward to reading the chapters each week and seeing certain characters in action. Especially way back in the SS arc when the nakama did something and Rukia was kind of cool.

Nowadays, NO ONE is allowed to do anything except Ichigo. And maybe Kenny, Renji and assuming he recovers from what should've been his death, Byakuya. Bach will destroy all of them so, so, SO badly.
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Old 2013-06-06, 16:39   Link #3443
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Can somebody explain me this....how in the world did the 1000 year younger version of Yhwach get into the soul of Ichigo and manifest himself as ichigo's zanpaktou?

While "Whitey" ...was Ichigo's original Zanpaktou.
What I am more surprised is how Yhwach wasn't able to get his powers back from Ichigo when he was a kid, even though he was able to get it back from his mother.

One possible reason (following the example of a Shinigami impregnating a human three times) would be the hollow infected Shinigami part in Ichigo also corrupted the Quincy powers to the extent that it became an ally of the host (broke free of the original Yhwach's will). If that is the case, then the version of Yhwach inside Ichigo should have something more to teach Ichigo that would help him against the original version.
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Old 2013-06-06, 17:01   Link #3444
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Bach is the original Quincy if I remember correctly...so a piece of him being w/ all Quincies isn't too far fetched.
So does that mean there are "Zangetsus" running around in the heads of all Quincies capable of giving "bankai" to the Quincy? If so, poor Ishida, he really got the short end of the stick.

*Back in SS arc*
Ishida: I'm going to be dropping into SS, where I'll likely fight Captain level opponents, I could really use a bankai. No? Ok then, guess I'll just go and lose my powers.
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Old 2013-06-06, 17:57   Link #3445
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This makes no sense... why the hell other Quincies are not creating Zanpanktuos or some other kind of weapon?

And how exactly could part of Basch to become a zanpanktuo to begin with? And with same power as Ishin's on top of that!
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Old 2013-06-06, 18:42   Link #3446
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It is probably because the hollow, the Quincy inside and the powers of Ichigo's dad somehow combined or fused. Remember that the aunt of ichigo's mom, insisted on pure quincy. That is probably the reason. Because of the Bach inside them. So, this means, that Ishida is different as the other quincy as well.
The bach inside ichigo is "corrupted"
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Old 2013-06-06, 22:17   Link #3447
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The bach inside Ichigo is unique because Ichigo is a Shinigami/Quincy Hybrid, not to mention the possibility of his hollow mucking the technicalities up.

The other Quincy don't have a Shinigami half, therefore the part of Bach they carry around doesn't have a manifestation. Old Man Zangetsu is basically his Quincy Powers hijacking the Zanpakutou Spirit Conversation thing.
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Old 2013-06-06, 23:55   Link #3448
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BTW, how could the Zanpakutou guy know, that the hollow Aizen created was called „white“.
IIRC Tousen was the one to give it this name, and the only ones present at that time were Aizen and Gin.
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Old 2013-06-07, 02:23   Link #3449
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Quincy can be zanp spirits now ... they getting more op every chapter
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Old 2013-06-07, 09:03   Link #3450
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So does that mean there are "Zangetsus" running around in the heads of all Quincies capable of giving "bankai" to the Quincy? If so, poor Ishida, he really got the short end of the stick.

*Back in SS arc*
Ishida: I'm going to be dropping into SS, where I'll likely fight Captain level opponents, I could really use a bankai. No? Ok then, guess I'll just go and lose my powers.
I would assume the hollow manipulated the Quincy energy.

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BTW, how could the Zanpakutou guy know, that the hollow Aizen created was called „white“.
IIRC Tousen was the one to give it this name, and the only ones present at that time were Aizen and Gin.
Since we don't know too much about Zero Squad...another assumption would be the science chick has tabs on everyone :P
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Old 2013-06-07, 09:20   Link #3451
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So all the weird ass abilities not related to bows and arrows the shitritters have are created by the inner dracula? That's also one explanation for how they are more than just humans with powers now, and it's actually genetic...
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Old 2013-06-07, 17:27   Link #3452
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Wow I haven't seen hackles up like this since the great Rukia or Orihime debate of 2008. Love your passion folks. It's been sorely lacking in this series for a long time!

That said, I've gotta agree with the majority on here - this revelation, as "surprising" as it was, is also retcon on a ridiculous level. Ichigo isn't just a shinigami, but also a fullbringer, a vizard, and a quincy? Come the f*ck on. I think we all know Kubo well enough by now to understand that there is never going to be a reasonable explanation for this. It's really not a matter of "having all the pieces of the puzzle", it's just terrible writing.
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Old 2013-06-07, 19:38   Link #3453
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I figure there's some relation to it all, as in it's feasible that one who is a hollow/shinigami/fullbringer/vizard can become the others. There are influences of sorts that perpetuate certain outcomes, like dead humans becoming hollows, or being purified and perhaps becoming shinigami in SS. Quincies seem to be hereditary though. Ichigo is the guy experiencing it all, to what end I wonder (maybe something to do with the soul king?).
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Old 2013-06-09, 04:06   Link #3454
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Ichigo's body status kinda reminds me of Naruto having a 5-man party inside him at one point :P
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Old 2013-06-09, 10:23   Link #3455
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So how long do you think the wait will be before Bach and co. start round two?
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Old 2013-06-09, 12:00   Link #3456
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Optimistically? 50 chapters.
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Old 2013-06-09, 13:19   Link #3457
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62.5 chapters be my conservative guess.
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Old 2013-06-09, 14:00   Link #3458
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So how long do you think the wait will be before Bach and co. start round two?
20-30 minimum.
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Old 2013-06-09, 17:09   Link #3459
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62.5 chapters be my conservative guess.
yes maximum... because there are still so many things revealed (especially Unohana)
died or not shit T-T
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Old 2013-06-12, 04:21   Link #3460
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chapter out. bs.
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