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Old 2012-08-29, 14:15   Link #461
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This chapter was pretty lame. More so then usual.
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Old 2012-08-29, 14:32   Link #462
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You know what? I'm so glad I'm only reading spoilers now.....

I knew Kenny would go by Fuhrer's hand, but if he's a war potential, I would at least expect to see it onscreen.

Otherwise, I"m so tired of this trolling bullshit. I wasted so many years on this series and this is how it ends? Fuck this. Fuck you Kubo. Give me all the money I wasted spent buying your shit series back.
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Old 2012-08-29, 15:43   Link #463
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true, but this chapter was awful. kenpachi deserved a fight like byakuya got, albeit short.
The thing is, Ken just seems unconscious and it doesn't appear as if Buckbeard is going to finish him off. In other words, he's likely to live to fight another day. On the other hand, I'm not so sure we can say the same thing for Byakuya. So in that sense, they didn't necessarily both need to have their fights shown IMO. I mean if Byakuya is to die, then by all means, we deserved to see it happen. But if Ken isn't going to die now and he's got nothing new he would've shown against Juha Bach, then I see little harm in skipping that battle. Now if I'm wrong and Ken turns out to be dead, then I'll probably join those of you who feel disappointed in an off-panel defeat. But since Ken seems to be one of Kubo's favorites, I doubt that'll happen.

If I had to guess, this defeat will probably get Ken extremely fired up. So much so, that I expect his next battle (that Kubo intends for him to win) will probably be something special.
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Old 2012-08-29, 16:20   Link #464
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The point is, just having the villain walce in and knock out (not kill) one of the strongest characters in the manga off-screen while showing off every other unimportant character is shitty writing no matter how positive you want to look at it. Kenpatchi's fight even if it was one messily swing should have been shown.
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Old 2012-08-29, 16:23   Link #465
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Seriously, is all the hate just over the fact that it was KENPACHI that lost so quickly? The guy is cool and all but he's really just a one trick pony. I'm mad that Byakuya got a fight while he didn't (on screen), but as of this point, Kenpachi has to be the most overused captain next to Byakuya, and he has NOTHING new in his arsenal.

Seeing him hacking and slashing and getting a hard-on at Bach's power--that doesn't sound anymore entertaining than what happened this chapter. We already know Kenpachi is 'strong' and defeating him off screen by the main villian's hand solifies the enemy as a threat. What happened to all the complaints about background characters getting screen-time? THe less time we spend on overused characters, more chance we get to see them in the future.

With that out of the way, the chapter was a bit lacking, because it's basically Yamamoto inspiring his troops, who weren't really losing that hard to begin with. All the captains (save for Byakuya and Kenny now) are still standing, so it's not like they needed the morale boost from Yamamoto's rage.

Anyways, the chapter did something good by skipping a fight that would be bland anyways, but it took that time to fast forward and held it back by making not much happen. Shinji hasn't even reached a fight yet?!
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Old 2012-08-29, 16:51   Link #466
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Dammit! Yama-ji can't fight the boss yet! This sets up Kubo to kill him off without ever revealing his bankai. Unless they jump back 1000 years and he uses it then or his bankai is too strong for the badge to contain.

Good to see Momo recovered from being mutilated in the last arc.
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Old 2012-08-29, 17:11   Link #467
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Kenpatchi's fight even if it was one messily swing should have been shown.
Then you shouldn't have anything to feel bad about. Afterall, we did see at least that much. lol

Perhaps it'd be easier to digest if you were to simply assume Kenpachi was defeated the moment his one swing from his sword clashed against buckbeards arm. I mean, I suppose its possible that there really wasn't much of a battle to be skipped in the first place if he's that strong.
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Old 2012-08-29, 17:18   Link #468
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Seriously, is all the hate just over the fact that it was KENPACHI that lost so quickly? The guy is cool and all but he's really just a one trick pony. I'm mad that Byakuya got a fight while he didn't (on screen), but as of this point, Kenpachi has to be the most overused captain next to Byakuya, and he has NOTHING new in his arsenal.

Seeing him hacking and slashing and getting a hard-on at Bach's power--that doesn't sound anymore entertaining than what happened this chapter. We already know Kenpachi is 'strong' and defeating him off screen by the main villian's hand solifies the enemy as a threat. What happened to all the complaints about background characters getting screen-time? THe less time we spend on overused characters, more chance we get to see them in the future.

With that out of the way, the chapter was a bit lacking, because it's basically Yamamoto inspiring his troops, who weren't really losing that hard to begin with. All the captains (save for Byakuya and Kenny now) are still standing, so it's not like they needed the morale boost from Yamamoto's rage.

Anyways, the chapter did something good by skipping a fight that would be bland anyways, but it took that time to fast forward and held it back by making not much happen. Shinji hasn't even reached a fight yet?!
Actually I"m MORE pissed off that we haven't seen whether or not Urahara survived that sword yet.

Otherwise, we all know the shinigami will probaly lose this round...actually, as far as I'm concerned, they have.

I guess Kubo's just trying to avoid the same criticism he got for the constant fighting in the FKT arc, but really....some development would be nice and not for a character like Chojiro who was in Bleach altogether for about four panels.

I won't read this for real until either the RG show up or the Swordsman's revealed(I think it might be Grimmjow.)

I thought for sure the reason why the Fuhrer's name was kept secret was because he might wind up an Ishida...but I guess I was wrong...

and I will laugh my arse off if Momo goes down again....
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Old 2012-08-29, 17:20   Link #469
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Actually I"m MORE pissed off that we haven't seen whether or not Urahara survived that sword yet.
I'm pretty sure that guy's just fine.
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Old 2012-08-29, 17:21   Link #470
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I'm pretty sure that guy's just fine.
Him and Ishida are my favorite characters (so is Yoruichi and Yachiru...but WHO) so if they die off, I'd be out
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Old 2012-08-29, 17:22   Link #471
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Him and Ishida are my favorite characters (so is Yoruichi and Yachiru...but WHO) so if they die off, I'd be out
I won't guarantee anything, but it's doubtful those two will be killed off anytime soon (if ever).
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Old 2012-08-29, 17:34   Link #472
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Kenpachi...that just isn't right.
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Old 2012-08-29, 18:01   Link #473
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Actually I"m MORE pissed off that we haven't seen whether or not Urahara survived that sword yet.

Otherwise, we all know the shinigami will probaly lose this round...actually, as far as I'm concerned, they have.

I guess Kubo's just trying to avoid the same criticism he got for the constant fighting in the FKT arc, but really....some development would be nice and not for a character like Chojiro who was in Bleach altogether for about four panels.

I won't read this for real until either the RG show up or the Swordsman's revealed(I think it might be Grimmjow.)

I thought for sure the reason why the Fuhrer's name was kept secret was because he might wind up an Ishida...but I guess I was wrong...

and I will laugh my arse off if Momo goes down again....


Forgot about the mysterious HM swordsman/woman 'attacking' urahara, damn, where is my mind right now. Well, one thing's for sure, once things in SS are REALLY interesting, he'll cut back to HM lol. Unless the mysterious person ends up helping Ichigo break out by going through the opening with him or something.

Same with the leader's name though. When Yamamoto was revealing his name, I thought that would be the cliffhanger and we wouldn't hear his name until next time, but it's not even 'Ishida' which is sad =[. Was hoping he'd have some connections but seems he's completely new with flashbacks having to explain his roles.
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Old 2012-08-29, 19:06   Link #474
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Forgot about the mysterious HM swordsman/woman 'attacking' urahara, damn, where is my mind right now. Well, one thing's for sure, once things in SS are REALLY interesting, he'll cut back to HM lol. Unless the mysterious person ends up helping Ichigo break out by going through the opening with him or something.

Same with the leader's name though. When Yamamoto was revealing his name, I thought that would be the cliffhanger and we wouldn't hear his name until next time, but it's not even 'Ishida' which is sad =[. Was hoping he'd have some connections but seems he's completely new with flashbacks having to explain his roles.
Whatever. I just hate this series anymore which sucks, because I was a huge fan for YEARS...but damn I hate the fact that Kubo only gives a shit about certain characters anymore and obviously could care less about others.

It would've been cooler if the Leader's name was 'Ishida'. At least it would give a connection to what Himmler in HM was saying about Souken and Uryu.

Ichigo will come into play whenever everyone, including the RG, are cut down by Bach..because that's how Kubo rolls...
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Old 2012-08-29, 19:10   Link #475
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Geezers fight coming up
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Old 2012-08-29, 21:47   Link #476
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my 2 bucks saying yamaji will get killed or at least lose badly....or the fight will be interuptted

if yamaji wins this arc is over
juha cannot get killed cause its ichigo's job in the end
Basically, this. Either he's planning to end Bleach really soon, or Yama-ji is gonna be in a big trouble.
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Old 2012-08-30, 02:42   Link #477
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I'm curious to see who this "Buzzbee" is, (Glasses guy, Mohawk, Hooded/scarfaced guy).
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Old 2012-08-30, 03:09   Link #478
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Ugh. I'm sick of Ichigo.

This arc should be about the old man. In the end, whether he lives or dies - the enemy should be finished off by his hands.

Ichigo hogged all the attention in the whole Aizen storyline, and then finally beating him at the end. Let others be the hero for once. Let Old Yammamoto kick serious ass for once, let him go all out against another powerful foe - so we can FINALLY see how epically awesome he is. I think we deserve that much.
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Old 2012-08-30, 05:04   Link #479
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i'm a bit disappointed the zaraki fight happened off panel but i'm not surprised he was defeated easily. he went and challenged the big boss for crying out loud! my complaint is really about how short this chapter is, again! why can't kubo give us longer chapters? and why am i not used to this by now?
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Old 2012-08-30, 05:41   Link #480
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Juha will win because last time the geezer had two arms, now he has one....
The thing that still irks me is where did these powerful warriors come from and why has it taken them this long to launch an attack on SS. And why has nobody ever made contact with any of these shitritters? This whole arc is pulled outta Kubo's ass, which is fitting as that probably sums up this series
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