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Old 2012-12-12, 10:05   Link #1861
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Besides, it seems to be that you being against this revelation about Unohana and Kenny and the possible connection they may or may not have with each other is mostly based on the bolded part of your post here and not on actual fact, just saying, tad more honesty in your comments would come a long way.
God you are seriously reading me posts wrong. Never said anything about the central. They said yama tried to train him that but stopped one day in the training saying it would be too dangerous. If he let unohana in the captains knowing that technique it means she isnt as dangerous with it. Meaning kenpachi is the strongest... 'kenpachi' lol

And i am a freakin Unopachi crack pair supporter. The fan squeeling gets annoying after a hour of it constantly thats why i shouted at them. Not at the pairing. Plus it was a joke.

Dont talk to me like your some noble and im a pesant.
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Old 2012-12-12, 10:08   Link #1862
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They said yama tried to train him that but stopped one day in the training saying it would be too dangerous. If he let unohana in the captains knowing that technique it means she isnt as dangerous with it. Meaning kenpachi is the strongest... 'kenpachi' lol
A wild goose can cause more damage than a tamed lion. Does that mean a goose is stronger?
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Old 2012-12-12, 10:13   Link #1863
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A wild goose can cause more damage than a tamed lion. Does that mean a goose is stronger?
He doesnt even have shikai or bankai. By goose you mean the claw right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0w3FcVe9gc



No i dont like unohana being the first kenpachi because it seems like a last minute ass pull until they go deep about it. Chances... no ichigo ichigo ichigo. They will most likey skip all of the training to show more ichigo. Main character idc. You have all these characters still no background filler. If i dont see a flashback unohana im going to be pissed
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Old 2012-12-12, 10:33   Link #1864
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anyway
I nominate Kyouraku Shunsui to be the next Captain Commander
did kinda sorta, well... called it


this week's chapter was pretty good
seems Kubo still had something up his sleeve, I wonder if there's still more

I've always thought that Unohana was strong, but I never imagined her to be THAT strong
I wonder if her shikai can do something else rather than carry people and heal them
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Old 2012-12-12, 10:34   Link #1865
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No, by goose I mean goose. The white bird.
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Old 2012-12-12, 10:46   Link #1866
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No, by goose I mean goose. The white bird.
Kenpachi is no goose tho. Good to see such a super powerful shinigami let every one die all the time and never lift a finger. She may be poeerful but thats not why she is to train kenpachi. That wild goose is gonna be trained by the not as powerful tamed lion to become a insanely powerful tamed goose that was already insanely powerful.

Im no fanboy but unless she stepped down fron being kenpachi and not defeated. She isnt as strong.

Again if she doesnt get a flash back, ill be pissed.
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Old 2012-12-12, 10:55   Link #1867
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I hate the central 46 losers. Honestly..I find that Soul society as a whole could go without those guys. All they do is bitch about what the captains do and double or triple guess every major decision captains make. Even though they're not even close to being able to call themselves peers of the captains/VCs other strong people.
Well, they are politicians, not fighters.
Though I wonder where SS got this new guys from, after the old ones where killed by Aizen. They don't seem to have a democracy, so they probably weren't elected, but it also doesn't seem to be aristocratic, since the noble families are actually part of the Gotei 13.
Do they just randomly pick up some guys from the streets of Rukongai?



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Considering how it seemed like tradition for the title of Kenpachi to get passed on only through the defeat of the previous Kenpachi (except for one questionable instance prior to this), I have to say, I didn't see this coming.
Where does the info about the name come from?
As far as I recall, Zaraki gave the name Kenpachi to himself at the time he met Yachiro, without asking anyone about it.
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Old 2012-12-12, 11:19   Link #1868
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The scene with Ichigo and Renji was downright ridiculous like something I would see in Gintama where characters are over dramatic over any action (though Gintama is actually a comedy)
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Well, they are politicians, not fighters.
Though I wonder where SS got this new guys from, after the old ones where killed by Aizen. They don't seem to have a democracy, so they probably weren't elected, but it also doesn't seem to be aristocratic, since the noble families are actually part of the Gotei 13.
Do they just randomly pick up some guys from the streets of Rukongai?





Where does the info about the name come from?
As far as I recall, Zaraki gave the name Kenpachi to himself at the time he met Yachiro, without asking anyone about it.
He may have heard of it and its why he joined the 13.
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Old 2012-12-12, 11:40   Link #1870
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From Bleach Wiki for those that were wondering:

(...if the wiki is accurate)
oh ok. thanks! totally forgot about that...

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They said yama tried to train him that but stopped one day in the training saying it would be too dangerous. If he let unohana in the captains knowing that technique it means she isnt as dangerous with it.
no it doesn't. central 46 is hesitant because it would be zaraki learning the same thing yama-jii didn't want to teach him. no matter who teaches him, the result would be the same. it's about zaraki learning, not who's teaching him be it yama-jii or unohana

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Meaning kenpachi is the strongest... 'kenpachi' lol
he is the strongest sure, but we have yet to know if this is because he and the other kenpachi are actually stronger than unohana or if it's because she refuses to fight anymore. my hunch is that she is stronger than zaraki right now and just refuses to fight anymore. but if he trains under her, he will probably surpass her. also just a side note, it doesnt technically mean 'strongest' since yama-jii was clearly strongest

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No i dont like unohana being the first kenpachi because it seems like a last minute ass pull until they go deep about it.
I dont think so. there have been hints about her being scary powerful since we were first introduced to SS
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Old 2012-12-12, 11:46   Link #1871
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He called Ichigo an ass tard!!! It felt like I was reading one of the spoof comics in the ridiculous image thread. And I love thoses, Priceless
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Old 2012-12-12, 11:49   Link #1872
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Where is this all coming from suddenly about Zaraki being stronger than Unohana? I thought it was the common assumption for a long time that we never saw her fight cause she was second in badassery only to Yamamoto.

But that last page. Shoot, I'd be afraid
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Old 2012-12-12, 12:09   Link #1873
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Lol...Shunsui -_- "I'll teach Kenpachi how to kill..."
If I'm not mistaken...he was the only one that even killed any of the arrow boys =p

And why does Renji all of a sudden have body of steel o.o
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Old 2012-12-12, 12:24   Link #1874
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I didnt know there were hundreds after her... seems a bit exagerated seeing how long they live. Why would shunsie have her train him.... because she is the only other person who CAN? They stopped training him when they realized hed be too powerful. Whats that say about someone who was taughtthat same technique?
Depending on how canon you take the 'Spirits are always with you' novels--there was a case of a Kenpachi that wasn't defeated in battle previously. Other than that, they were all replaced because they had been killed in battle by the most recent Kenpachi. Life span has nothing to do with it.

Also, it's a last ditch effort. Zaraki's training might have stopped back then becasue Yamamoto was afraid, but like Kyoraku said, Byakuya might not be the same ever again, Soul Society itself was torn to pieces (completely different than captains losing outside of soul society), etc etc. When the going gets tough, the tough gets going--teach Kenpachi the proper way to do things.

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God you are seriously reading me posts wrong. Never said anything about the central. They said yama tried to train him that but stopped one day in the training saying it would be too dangerous. If he let unohana in the captains knowing that technique it means she isnt as dangerous with it. Meaning kenpachi is the strongest... 'kenpachi' lol

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Or as people speculate, Yamamoto knew Unohana from the days of the blood thirsty Gotei 13 badasses. She already knew/was taught the techniques before it became a concern when the Gotei13 calmed down and became a symbol of order. She's not dangerous with it because she has self control and knows when/how to use something so powerful--stands to reason.

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A wild goose can cause more damage than a tamed lion. Does that mean a goose is stronger?
Exactly this.

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Kenpachi is no goose tho. Good to see such a super powerful shinigami let every one die all the time and never lift a finger. She may be poeerful but thats not why she is to train kenpachi. That wild goose is gonna be trained by the not as powerful tamed lion to become a insanely powerful tamed goose that was already insanely powerful.

Im no fanboy but unless she stepped down fron being kenpachi and not defeated. She isnt as strong.

Again if she doesnt get a flash back, ill be pissed.
Compared to Unohana, he might very well be. Up until this point, all we've seen is Zaraki swing his sword around, yelling about crap and getting stabbed and shrugging it off. Seems extremely powerful because of the way he acts. Unohana on the other hand has had many show their fear of her but she never cracks under pressure. Like the goose vs. lion metaphor, Kenpachi can be ferocious and cause tons of damage, but he'd never stand a chance against something clearly stronger than him that chooses not to use its full strength.

Also, Unohana was sworn to remain in her healing post by Yamamoto. She never lifted a finger to fight because she wasn't allowed to...now that he's dead, that rule has tobe broken. Thought she made that pretty clear 3 or 4 chapters ago when Isane was crying after the invasion.

She definitely stepped down--she's still alive...Testament to hernot being defeated and killed to be replaced. I agree, she needs a flashback.

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Lol...Shunsui -_- "I'll teach Kenpachi how to kill..."
If I'm not mistaken...he was the only one that even killed any of the arrow boys =p

And why does Renji all of a sudden have body of steel o.o
the proper way to kill I'm guessing? It' be cool to see an annoyed but controlled Kenpachi that doesn't just swing wildly and grin all the time and instead calculates and deals the fatal blow simply.

Because Renji is awesome!!! xD...seriously though, there was the small panel where the Yakuza noticed Renji's fist shaking...clearly he had a hard time absorbing that punch--he's not as strong as he seems, but close enough to stand his own ground. Kubo is really building him up--remember his last fight, all it took was one hit=P
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oh ok. thanks! totally forgot about that...

no it doesn't. central 46 is hesitant because it would be zaraki learning the same thing yama-jii didn't want to teach him. no matter who teaches him, the result would be the same. it's about zaraki learning, not who's teaching him be it yama-jii or unohana

he is the strongest sure, but we have yet to know if this is because he and the other kenpachi are actually stronger than unohana or if it's because she refuses to fight anymore. my hunch is that she is stronger than zaraki right now and just refuses to fight anymore. but if he trains under her, he will probably surpass her. also just a side note, it doesnt technically mean 'strongest' since yama-jii was clearly strongest

I dont think so. there have been hints about her being scary powerful since we were first introduced to SS
1. That is exactly what I'm getting across... They don't want him to be taught it because even Yama said its too dangerous...

2. I should refraise that he is the strongest Kenpachi. Isn't it stated some where that only when a kenpachi is defeated or killed by the challenger that they step down from the title?

3. Strongest =/= Better, Aizen would never have been able to touch Yama if he used bankai. He out smarted him.

4. I'm done with this conversation, I'm getting this rediculous amount of hate in rep because apparently I'm being sexist.

Stronger =/= better, Zaraki may be stronger, but most likely not better.

THE END
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Old 2012-12-12, 12:49   Link #1876
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Lol...Shunsui -_- "I'll teach Kenpachi how to kill..."
If I'm not mistaken...he was the only one that even killed any of the arrow boys =p
I'm guessing the intent of the line was more like, how to kill as a warrior, rather than as an animal/psycho.
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Btw guys, its not Her power that is scaring people, its that whole kind look but murderous intent behind the smile. Lots of animes have those characters. like in Serieki, tho she is super powerful. but its the evil aura that scares them. She can be weaker then Hitsugaya and still scare people shitless.
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Old 2012-12-12, 13:03   Link #1878
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Yachiru Unohana?

Isnt Ken's chan vice also called Yachiru?
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Old 2012-12-12, 13:13   Link #1879
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2. I should refraise that he is the strongest Kenpachi. Isn't it stated some where that only when a kenpachi is defeated or killed by the challenger that they step down from the title?
Unohana is highly likely to the exception. My impression is that she relinquished her title and swore never to fight again hence why Yamamoto ordered her to stay in her barracks no matter what. I doubt she was defeated by somebody else, that would undermine this reveal.
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She still could have been defeated. It's obvious she was defeated or stepped down, again if they don't flash back and tell us what the hell went on, I'm going to be furious.

You guys think you've been waiting for unohana to fight? Pssh
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