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Old 2013-10-03, 19:59   Link #1581
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If you want tacticians/strategists, don't go half-assed: just go for the Ultimate military commander in the universe.

Yes, you know who I mean.

Our blonde, sexy, moe saviour, Reinhard.
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Old 2013-10-04, 04:48   Link #1582
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If you want tacticians/strategists, don't go half-assed: just go for the Ultimate military commander in the universe.

Yes, you know who I mean.

Our blonde, sexy, moe saviour, Reinhard.
Yang Wen-Li called, he wants Iserlohn back. Pronto.


Also, Koko would make a terrifying final boss. Come to think of it, the end of Jormungand really makes her one of those, doesn't it?
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Old 2013-10-04, 04:59   Link #1583
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Yang Wen-Li called, he wants Iserlohn back. Pronto.
^ Beat me to it.
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Old 2013-10-04, 05:46   Link #1584
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Hmm, I shouldn't be asking for a Final boss villain yet, but I'll take your advice's for it, for now, I just need villains who can be used for one or two "episode's" each, because using Lelouch and letting him fail each time can be kinda stale(Although I relish in his suffering).
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Old 2013-10-04, 05:56   Link #1585
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for now, I just need villains who can be used for one or two "episode's" each
- How about this guy?


Or this?

Seriously, though. two episodes is basically a cardboard cutout punchclock villain (unless you can characterize him/her well). Think about how you want to use the character first, and then work something out. What is the purpose? Is it just a 'filler' or something that contributes to the overall story? There's got ot be an end result to it, not just to put an in-between mid-level boss for the sake of it.
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Old 2013-10-04, 06:00   Link #1586
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Umm... Who would suggest Ikadevil? Choose Tsukasa! ALL HAIL DAI-SHOCKER!!!
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Old 2013-10-04, 06:01   Link #1587
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Umm... Who would suggest Ikadevil?
- Well he said a 2-episode villain, so..

...actually the Starfish Hitler idea could work. Theorize that after landing in Europe, the BETA Superior wanted to inspect a human corps....or else the Nazis knew about the BETA before the invasion and cloned Hitler usign BETA cells and sea life.
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Old 2013-10-04, 06:30   Link #1588
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- Well he said a 2-episode villain, so..

...actually the Starfish Hitler idea could work. Theorize that after landing in Europe, the BETA Superior wanted to inspect a human corps....or else the Nazis knew about the BETA before the invasion and cloned Hitler usign BETA cells and sea life.
BETA cloning eh?

Spoiler for interesting idea:


I could use them in Season 1, Season 2 begins with the elimination of the final BETA hive on mars via orbital bombardment, and focuses more on earth being attacked by Mecha piloting enemies from one of my Character's home universe, Season 3 is where it get's really interesting....
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Old 2013-10-04, 07:27   Link #1589
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So, what do you guys think if I make Japan's force like this for the start of my fic:

- Main fighting force: Kai Zuikaiku (novice), F-15J and F-2 (Hi-Low Mix).

- Training: Gekishin.

- Royalty: Takemi.
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Old 2013-10-04, 10:17   Link #1590
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Shiranui fills the role of the IRL F-2 and F-15.

Fubuki is the main trainer, not the Gekishin, because the Fubuki has similar flight characteristics with the Shiranui and Kagerou.

IRG uses Gekishit as a trainer because their mainline TSF is the Zuikaku.
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Old 2013-10-04, 15:39   Link #1591
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Shiranui fills the role of the IRL F-2 and F-15.

Fubuki is the main trainer, not the Gekishin, because the Fubuki has similar flight characteristics with the Shiranui and Kagerou.

IRG uses Gekishit as a trainer because their mainline TSF is the Zuikaku.
Remember that I said "The start of my fic"? Before Shirogane joined the war?

I'm just trying to make it as real as possible.
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Old 2013-10-04, 20:08   Link #1592
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Remember that I said "The start of my fic"? Before Shirogane joined the war?

I'm just trying to make it as real as possible.
Yes, and that was the state of things. As of 1998. Three years before Takeru started looping.
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Old 2013-10-04, 20:48   Link #1593
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Ok, "as real as possible" meaning that I'm trying to duplicate Japanese Air Force as in now (remember that I said BETA arrived in 2010 in my fic - the same day of Shinjuku Incident happened in Makabe's last life?)
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Old 2013-10-06, 20:38   Link #1594
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Heads up.

All Surface Pilost, be advised: Breaking the Tide has updated. I say again, Breaking the Tide has updated.

Transmission ends.
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Old 2013-10-07, 09:24   Link #1595
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A portal opens in the South Pacific in early 1983.

Something large emerges from it and heads to San Diego.
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Old 2013-10-07, 23:29   Link #1596
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Ok, "as real as possible" meaning that I'm trying to duplicate Japanese Air Force as in now (remember that I said BETA arrived in 2010 in my fic - the same day of Shinjuku Incident happened in Makabe's last life?)
If BETA arrive in 2010, you will have just the plain old Japanese Air Defense Forces (because we can't have Japanese military, that's just silly). There's no reason for the TSFs to exist otherwise.

In BETAverse though, you'd need to replace Japanese Empire (well, technically it's Shogunate) with modern-day Japan which relies largely on American equipment, rather then its own.
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Old 2013-10-07, 23:38   Link #1597
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Dude, like I said before, this comes with my timeline above - the one that make Makabe brother the Emperor, duh? And Moon War happened 10 years before the Landing, just enough time for they to distribute F-4 and F-5. And since Korean and China is still part of the Empire, all could Japan do is almost exhausted their resource. This, combine with the low competition, Zaibatsu monopoly, colony depend economy make the Empire has to buy and refurnish American TSF.
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Old 2013-10-08, 03:29   Link #1598
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I give up. There's just too much that Fireminer has gotten wrong and I really don't want to talk about it right now. Not the least that - since in this verse jet aircraft have already progressed as per normal until 2010, the designations F-4 and F-5 will not be used as they have been already issued to the F-4 Phantom and F-5 Tiger jet fighters.

For God's sake, will you please go and fucking read up on fighters? Seriously? I mean fuckit I get that you're 7 years old or something, but you already have the reading comprehension for it. When I was 9 I was reading shit like Tom Clancy, nonfiction books on airforces, that sorta thing.

As for cheaper higher performing fighters, here's something interesting. Tl;dr, IAI is making upgraded Kfirs (which IRL are basically Israeli Mirage III clones). In Muv-Luv, these would be F-5 clones.

They're basically trying to do a Gripen (relatively cheap, affordable, good performance fighter achieving parity with current generation fighters) by upgrading a lightweight previous generation fighter.
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Old 2013-10-08, 07:01   Link #1599
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Tch... Don't have to be that mad, will you? Yes, I understand your point, and that is what I'm trying to fix with my timeline. Remember when I wrote that "USSR and US relationship go to a new high, and the world enjoy a relative peaceful era"? Basically, weapon industry got frozen. All of their resource now turn to the Space Race. The question is: How could I make the USSR and US relationship less restrained?

Beside, that Japanese army plan that I proposed, well, it's still just a propose.

Also, do you know how hard is it to get a hand on Tom Clancy books or Ace Combat games in Vietnam? It's almost impossible. Not to mention that I don't have access to a computer - I'm writing this on a mobile.
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Old 2013-10-08, 14:37   Link #1600
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Not the least that - since in this verse jet aircraft have already progressed as per normal until 2010, the designations F-4 and F-5 will not be used as they have been already issued to the F-4 Phantom and F-5 Tiger jet fighters.
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For God's sake, will you please go and fucking read up on fighters? Seriously? I mean fuckit I get that you're 7 years old or something, but you already have the reading comprehension for it. When I was 9 I was reading shit like Tom Clancy, nonfiction books on airforces, that sorta thing.
RIP in Pieces, Hero of Modern Literature. You shall be missed.

>tfw no Muv-Luv by Tom Clancy ever



Anyway, guys, I'm conflicted here:

I have two ideas, the one where the BETA arrive in 1994, and the one where we have our Eishis pilot Jšegers and kill the shit out of Kaijus because fuck Kaijus.

What would be more interesting?
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