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Old 2012-10-04, 16:43   Link #501
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Oh wow the guy is really rattling the cage here.

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Old 2012-10-04, 21:49   Link #502
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Two Carrier Groups Are Now Operating In The China Sea

The USS George Washington and the USS John C. Stennis aircraft carrier strike groups (CSGs), a flotilla of five ships and more than 10,000 Navy personnel are now operating in the conflict ridden South China Sea area.


The news was announced by the Navy a few days ago, but is now making the rounds in Asian media outlets, and generating as much speculation as it is concern.

The Washington will be operating in the East China Sea near the disputed Diaoyutai islands controlled by Japan, but claimed by both Taiwan and China.

The Stennis will be operating south of the Diaoyutai's in the South China Sea, where territorial disputes between China and its regional neighbors have been making headlines for months.

There is speculation that the carrier assignments could just be coincidence, and while that's possible it's just as likely that the U.S. is doing it's part to fulfill three separate treaty obligations to allies in the region.

Ralph Jennings at The Christian Science Monitor points out that the U.S. is "obligated by security pacts or acts of Congress to help defend Japan, Taiwan, and the Philippines – all located off the east coast of rising military power and US cold-war rival China."

In addition to the carrier groups, and two air wings comprising about 120 aircraft, Focus Taiwan reports the amphibious assault ship the USS Bonhomme Richard and two escorts are operating in the nearby Philippine Sea.

Whether the U.S. is looking to reassure Japan, keep China in check, or simply rotating ships around a new schedule, there's little doubt many are taking consolation in the fact that the U.S. generally deploys three carriers to a region when planning for war.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-p...na-sea-2012-10

And now in the Philippines.

More US navy ships visit Subic

At least seven United States Navy ships—a submarine, amphibious assault vessels, a helicopter carrier, and destroyers —were expected to arrive in the Philippines in the next few days to take part in a massive joint military exercises involving the two countries, officials said on Thursday.

Lt. Cherry Tindog, director of the Philippine Marine Corps Public Affairs Office, said the 10-day exercises will kick-off on October 8 near Palawan and Zambales provinces, a highly strategic area because of the territorial row between the Philippines and China over a group of islands in the West Philippine Sea.

During the maneuvers, dubbed the PH-US Amphibious Landing Exercise 2013, a US Marine air-ground task force would link up with 1,2000 Filipino troops, Tindog said.

The USS Olympia, a Los Angeles class submarine, was the first to arrive in the country. The helicopter-carrier, USS Bonhomme Rchaird, an amphibious assault ship with 2,200 US Marines, and two destroyer ships were expected to arrive at the Subic Freeport on Friday.

The amphibious landing exercise could be one of the most massive activities compared to previous PH-US Balikatan Exercises under the visiting Forces Agreement. Other than the Marine contingents, the USS Bonhomme Richard will also be carrying amphibious assault vehicles, light armoured vehicles and Harrier fighter jets.

Philippine participants in the exercise will include the Marines, the Army, the Air Force, the Navy Air Group and Special Operation Group, Tindog said.

He said the exercises in the Palawan area—which has territorial jurisdiction over the Spratly’s and Zambales, which considers the Panatag Shoal as part of the province—were intended “to enhance the strong defense partnership between the Philippines and the United States.”

http://manilastandardtoday.com/2012/...s-visit-subic/

Theft of trade secrets worsening in China-U.S. business

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...89211920121003

Its seem the US is starting to lost trust on China.


Strategic Lessons From China-Japan Stand Off – Analysis
http://www.eurasiareview.com/0110201...-off-analysis/

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Old 2012-10-04, 23:22   Link #503
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I wonder if the USS John C. Stennis is going to stay for a while, or if she is "on her way" the the Arabian Sea/Persian Gulf as planned back in July to stay their for an extented period of time.

She was suppose to relieve USS Enterprise, but I suppose Enterprise doesn't have to be relieved for another three or four weeks to make it home in time to be decommissioned December 1st.
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Old 2012-10-05, 00:34   Link #504
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India deploys hi-tech boats to counter China in Ladakh lake

NEW DELHI: Now, at least on one particular stretch along the unresolved 4,057-km Line of Actual Control (LAC), Indian soldiers can finally cock a snook at Chinese troops after years of being aggressively needled.

Indian soldiers are armed with spanking new high-tech QRT (quick-reaction team) boats to patrol the highly-picturesque but equally-contentious Pangong Tso (Tso means lake in Ladakhi) in eastern Ladakh, which has emerged as a major flashpoint between the world's largest and second-largest armies over the last decade.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...ts-pangong-tso

China bullying tactics made many enemies.
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Old 2012-10-05, 01:10   Link #505
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India deploys hi-tech boats to counter China in Ladakh lake

NEW DELHI: Now, at least on one particular stretch along the unresolved 4,057-km Line of Actual Control (LAC), Indian soldiers can finally cock a snook at Chinese troops after years of being aggressively needled.

Indian soldiers are armed with spanking new high-tech QRT (quick-reaction team) boats to patrol the highly-picturesque but equally-contentious Pangong Tso (Tso means lake in Ladakhi) in eastern Ladakh, which has emerged as a major flashpoint between the world's largest and second-largest armies over the last decade.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...ts-pangong-tso

China bullying tactics made many enemies.
blame the british
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Old 2012-10-05, 01:45   Link #506
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China bullying tactics made many enemies.
That's part of why I seriously believe Hu Jintao is just falling into recklessness just like Wilhelm II did a century ago with Germany. What was the PRC trying to do by bullying a country that has nuclear weapons and who spent decades of readiness for a war against Pakistan, another country with nuclear weapons? Someone must have injected a bucketload of lead into the CCP's leaders' heads for them trying such stupidity asking for trouble. Wilhelm did the same with France, England and Russia, and look where things ended for him.

Sorry to break the news, but the PRC will for sure fall on the wrong end of all this if they keep on going like that. The Chinese people should start waking up now and tear down that joke of a leadership because there won't be a second chance for them to wake up at this rate.
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Old 2012-10-05, 01:51   Link #507
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A dozen posts have been deleted, while several others were edited. Some of you are turning this into quite the habit and I must ask that you stop this before you receive a warning and/or infraction.
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Old 2012-10-05, 02:03   Link #508
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Its India...of course one would blame the British. But the boats are said to be US made...though I can't find details on what kind of boats they are.
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Old 2012-10-05, 02:28   Link #509
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Its India...of course one would blame the British. But the boats are said to be US made...though I can't find details on what kind of boats they are.
Not only that; I read that India also has a lot of Russian-made hardware as well. Now, that's I call good business when you can buy both American and Russian furniture (some of them being recently made BTW) for your armed forces.
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Old 2012-10-05, 02:34   Link #510
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Most of there stuff was British or Russian until relatively recently. I get the feeling that China's recent military expansion has placed India's border trouble with China into the same boat with the US and Russia as both had issues with China. The Russian vote similarly to the Chinese in the US on security matters, but they are not exactly allies in every sense of the word.
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Old 2012-10-05, 02:49   Link #511
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Chinese Navy fleet sails between Japanese islands


Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Force says it has spotted a Chinese naval fleet in international waters between two southwestern Japanese islands.

According to the Defense Ministry in Tokyo, the 7 vessels navigated between Okinawa's main island and Miyako Island between 6 and 7 PM on Thursday.

It is the first Chinese naval fleet seen in the area since Japan nationalized 3 of the Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea last month.

The vessels were about 110 kilometers from Miyako Island, heading toward the Pacific from the East China Sea when spotted. The fleet is made up of 2 destroyers, 2 frigates, a supply ship and 2 submarine rescue ships.

China's navy holds drills passing through the area in the Pacific a few times a year. It is 200 kilometers east of the Senkaku Islands.

In late June 3 Chinese naval vessels sailed though the area after carrying out drills in the Pacific.

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20121004_36.html

The only thing to settle in order to avoid suspicion and claimants is to go to the UNCLOS. Every Asean should meet there.

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Old 2012-10-05, 05:30   Link #512
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A dozen posts have been deleted, while several others were edited. Some of you are turning this into quite the habit and I must ask that you stop this before you receive a warning and/or infraction.
Daniel,

There is a reason for the loli maid cafe being suggested - it is meant as a insult, albeit a morbidly humourous one, to the various government of the claimants. Even with that being built, the jab is meant at the administrations which have these following issues in their private sectors :

Japanese : "maid cafes" have become an increasingly decadent concept as they start to offer backroom services, now degenerating into almost sexual (and possibly underage)

Taiwanese : cosmetic industry is becoming a gigantic marketing sham with their cosmetics made overseas with questionable working conditions and chemicals,

Hong Kong : business leaders' corrupt dealings with governments and lack of concern for society (especially in property)

China : corrupt bureaucracy being a unscalable barrier for international law enforcement.

I don't mind if the maids LOOK underage, but to be serviced by a girl who is ACTUALLY underage doesn't sit well with me. And in major developed states in Asia, speaking the right codewords in the red-light districts can get you "fresh fruit services" - the local tongues, unlike English, has more vocabulary for innuendos than it seems.

So why are they actually making so many headways into their claims instead of addressing the more important and widespread problems in Asia, as a whole?
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Old 2012-10-05, 09:35   Link #513
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I don't mind if the maids LOOK underage, but to be serviced by a girl who is ACTUALLY underage doesn't sit well with me. And in major developed states in Asia, speaking the right codewords in the red-light districts can get you "fresh fruit services" - the local tongues, unlike English, has more vocabulary for innuendos than it seems.

So why are they actually making so many headways into their claims instead of addressing the more important and widespread problems in Asia, as a whole?
in the 80s it was Fish Eggs
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in the 80s it was Fish Eggs
If you meant fish fry (xiao yu), it is still used. It is just another alternative to fresh fruits.
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If you meant fish fry (xiao yu), it is still used. It is just another alternative to fresh fruits.
correct that, the correct term was Fish Balls.

the Fish Ball girls.
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correct that, the correct term was Fish Balls.

the Fish Ball girls.
You have to be as old as the politicians contesting for the islands to know or even use that.

I hear that term often while speaking with older men recounting their exploits in China with their pension funds.
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Old 2012-10-14, 22:04   Link #518
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Japan, U.S. troops consider drill to retake island National

Oct. 15, 2012 - 10:45AM JST

TOKYO —

Japan and the United States are mulling a joint military drill to simulate retaking a remote island from foreign forces, reports said Sunday, amid a festering row between Tokyo and Beijing over disputed islets.

The exercise, part of broader joint maneuvers to start in early November, would use an uninhabited island in Okinawa, southernmost Japan, Jiji Press and Kyodo News agencies quoted unidentified sources as saying.

The drill would involve Japanese and US troops making an amphibious and airborne landing to retake the island using boats and helicopters, Kyodo said.

Japan and China have long been at loggerheads over the sovereignty of rocky outcrops in the East China Sea known as the Senkaku Islands in Japan and the Diaoyu Islands in China.

The Tokyo-administered island chain is uninhabited, but is thought to be sitting on top of valuable resources.

The dispute flared in August and September with landings by nationalists from both sides and the subsequent nationalisation of the islands by Tokyo.

The exercise would reportedly use the uninhabited island of Irisunajima. The tiny island, used as a firing range for U.S. forces, is also in the East China Sea but hundreds of kilometres (miles) away from the disputed island chain.

Jiji said some Japanese and U.S. government officials were cautious about holding the drill, fearing a likely angry response from China.

http://www.japantoday.com/category/n...-retake-island
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Old 2012-10-16, 06:05   Link #519
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I have a solution for this dispute.

Build a moe girl poster which says
私のために喧嘩しないで!
请不战斗为我!
請不戰鬥為我!
Please don't fight for me!
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Old 2012-10-16, 18:49   Link #520
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I have a solution for this dispute.

Build a moe girl poster which says
私のために喧嘩しないで!
请不战斗为我!
請不戰鬥為我!
Please don't fight for me!
I only wish it were that simple The Chinese could be translated more appropriately as "請不為我戰鬥/请不为我战斗" [Source: I'm a native speaker of Cantonese Chinese], and in that case, the best English translation would be "Please don't fight over me!"
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