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Old 2012-11-05, 22:32   Link #721
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You clearly have never traveled through rural America
I do. Somewhere at California.
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Old 2012-11-05, 23:00   Link #722
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Comparing between this and Israeli colonization of Palestine is really stretching it, to say the least.
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Old 2012-11-06, 02:45   Link #723
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Welcome to reality. Also, the Chinese can hardly whine about being invaded, having been the invaders plenty of times themselves
If you wanted to tell him off, using the word "Tibet" is enough.
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Old 2012-11-06, 03:46   Link #724
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Let me enlighten you a bit.

Sino Nepalese War

This is a war fought from 1788-1792 between the Chinese and the Napalese. By your logic, the Chinese must have air lifted above the Tibet plateau to fight a war.
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Old 2012-11-06, 03:57   Link #725
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Let me enlighten you a bit.

Sino Nepalese War

This is a war fought from 1788-1792 between the Chinese and the Napalese. By your logic, the Chinese must have air lifted above the Tibet plateau to fight a war.
Funny how you're leaving out the part where the Chinese invaded Tibet multiple times throughout history themselves.

How did you put it... oh yea, "the Chinese started an invasion and force the treaty down the Tibetan's throat to give up their land."

Pot, meet Kettle
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Old 2012-11-06, 04:06   Link #726
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What about after Tibet regained independence? For that matter, what about the Uyghur? Aren't both people occupied after the founding of PRC?
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Old 2012-11-06, 04:06   Link #727
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This thread, if not this entire forum needs a regulatory system to deal against polemical partisants.
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Old 2012-11-06, 05:25   Link #728
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This thread, if not this entire forum needs a regulatory system to deal against polemical partisants.
I am against this for the sake of humour.
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Old 2012-11-06, 05:36   Link #729
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Comparing between this and Israeli colonization of Palestine is really stretching it, to say the least.
But... all those Senkaku rocks had to be relocated and human rights violated.
Think of the rocks.
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Old 2012-11-06, 05:45   Link #730
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I am against this for the sake of humour.

I would've agreed with that 3 years ago. But I have now come to conclude that mixing sirs with non-sirs in one non-ironic environment doesn't yield the amount of fun worth the harm.


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But... all those Senkaku rocks had to be relocated and human rights violated.
Think of the rocks.
Now I'm confused. Isn't Senkaku the rocks' Promised Land ?
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Old 2012-11-06, 09:20   Link #731
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The Eighth Route Army Culture Park in Wuxiang county, China, allows visitors to dress up at Chinese or Japanese troops. And then shoot each other with phony guns.

http://kotaku.com/5958008/japan-inva...amusement-park
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Old 2012-11-06, 10:00   Link #732
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Highly related to the previous discussion:

The Eighth Route Army Culture Park in Wuxiang county, China, allows visitors to dress up at Chinese or Japanese troops. And then shoot each other with phony guns.

http://kotaku.com/5958008/japan-inva...amusement-park
I'm not sure if that's awesome or sad.

it'd be awesome if they were shooting paintballs, but since it doesn't look that way, I'm gonna have to go with sad.
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Old 2012-11-06, 10:22   Link #733
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The Eighth Route Army Culture Park in Wuxiang county, China, allows visitors to dress up at Chinese or Japanese troops. And then shoot each other with phony guns.

http://kotaku.com/5958008/japan-inva...amusement-park
I am sure is no worse than Americans dressing as Nazis for historical re-enactment. Nothing is better than going with your son on a weekend to discuss the final solution
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Old 2012-11-06, 11:33   Link #734
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Funny how you're leaving out the part where the Chinese invaded Tibet multiple times throughout history themselves.

How did you put it... oh yea, "the Chinese started an invasion and force the treaty down the Tibetan's throat to give up their land."

Pot, meet Kettle
and Tibet when it was known as Tufan also invaded China several times, including the sacking of Chang'An following the collapse of the Tang Dynasty.
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Old 2012-11-06, 11:58   Link #735
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and Tibet when it was known as Tufan also invaded China several times, including the sacking of Chang'An following the collapse of the Tang Dynasty.
Indeed, but this isn't a scoreboard keeping track of who invaded who how many times, the point is that nobody's hand is clean, so T.Bomb's crying foul of HK as a result of an invasion is hypocritical at best as China does the same thing to others anyway.
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Old 2012-11-06, 12:07   Link #736
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Indeed, but this isn't a scoreboard keeping track of who invaded who how many times, the point is that nobody's hand is clean, so T.Bomb's crying foul of HK as a result of an invasion is hypocritical at best as China does the same thing to others anyway.
Yeah, all is fair in war and war .. until the Western Powers decided they had enough and said the game was over..

I'm kidding, but only about 85% -- there are people that genuinely feel that they're not particularly happy about where all the borders were drawn at. It's a theme that comes up in Tom Clancy books too. "Who said the game was over?"
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Old 2012-11-06, 12:20   Link #737
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Yeah, all is fair in war and war .. until the Western Powers decided they had enough and said the game was over..

I'm kidding, but only about 85% -- there are people that genuinely feel that they're not particularly happy about where all the borders were drawn at. It's a theme that comes up in Tom Clancy books too. "Who said the game was over?"
You gotta thank the British Empire for at least a couple examples...

For example, the Indian/China border, and the Pakistan/India Border.
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Old 2012-11-06, 16:09   Link #738
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You have to pity Germany, that most quintessential of German regions, Prussia (that formed Germany!), isn't even in Germany though.

Of course, a lot of people think they had it coming.
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Old 2012-11-08, 13:02   Link #739
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China's communist elite are meeting to install a new generation of leaders in a process that is part public show and part backroom politicking.

At the center of the spectacle is the Communist Party congress, a gathering held once every five years that is the 18th such event in the party's history. The congress is more interlude than climax. Important decisions are made by current and retired leaders, some of whom are not even on the congress delegates' roster, in bargaining that began years ago and has largely been already resolved.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT

Outlook not so good
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Old 2012-12-13, 05:39   Link #740
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Japan Answers Chinese Plane With Fighter Jets

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TOKYO—Japan scrambled fighter jets over contested islands in the East China Sea after a small Chinese propeller plane entered what Tokyo considers its airspace.

Coming just three days before general elections in Japan, Thursday's move sharply escalates territorial tensions that have already damaged economic relations between the two neighbors.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...539995800.html
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