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Old 2013-08-22, 14:01   Link #961
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It is not to me. It is obvious Theoria brought with her Wulgaru DNA samples.

Izuru was conceived from her own genes and that of Simon.
But they didn't say that they used any sort of random samples. They specifically say that they used Teoria's genes for the pilots with an 's'. Since she's a royal, I guess her genes are more pure than other Wulgaru?

But I guess it makes sense when you remember back to the fact that there are different genetic castes of Wulgaru and the higher class you are the better genes you have.

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So Izuru's options for women comes down to a woman who is pretty much his mother or a woman who is very likely his sister?
And this is why I'm starting to doubt Izuru's going to survive this. He's interested in Teoria, but she's pretty much his mother, and from what he says in this episode, Izuru's thoughts toward Kei seem to be totally platonic, and he also has this degenerative disease. Plus, he's always wanted to be the hero. What's more heroic then giving your life to save your friends and humanity?
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Old 2013-08-22, 14:52   Link #962
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That's actually pretty confusing. Rin says that in order to create the AHSMB pilots they needed to use as close to pure Wulgaru DNA as they could get, and to do that they used Theoria's DNA. This actually indicates that all of the AHSMB pilots have Theoria's DNA, and not just Izuru?

So, does that make all of Team Rabbits sort of half-siblings? Also, it seems to be indicative that Ange is having genetic problems too, which may suggest that he/she is related too?
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Old 2013-08-22, 16:47   Link #963
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Eh, I was afraid of this. The show takes a big turn and goes into drama mode. The atmosphere has changed and now... there is this really weird feeling that half of them will die by the end. And it was such a relaxing mecha show... *sigh*

The condition of Izuru is indeed serious and makes me wonder if others are also effected. That would suck balls for me, honestly, which means that everyone will get older rather fast? Dreams pretty much shattered, no?

And I don't get it, are Izuru and Asagi brothers because of Commander or cuz' of Theoria's DNA? Cuz if it's because of Theoria then that would make everyone a sibling... but they pretty much put an emphasis on Asagi and Izuru...

Good episode but I really hope everything ends well. I can pretty much imagine Izuru dying now, as he wants to become a hero so he could fulfill that role if he sacrifices at the end. Which pretty much opens the door for KeiXAsagi. :3
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Old 2013-08-22, 17:02   Link #964
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From the way I understood it - Izuru is the only one with Theroria's DNA - but both Izuru and Asagi have the Commanders. The rest of the pilots probably have the Wulguru DNA that she brought with her when she defected. Only Asagi and Izuru are related...

And I think Asagi cemented his role as #2 a few episodes back - he knows he's not the top gunner. And he's fine with that - he'll leave Kei and Izuru to work things out (ending still has them together...at least when they show the OG ending). And I doubt Izuru will be killed off - even in a Hero moment. They would leave it open for a second season, as someone said earlier they are thinking about it.

Further with how the Wulguru take genes from other races - maybe Izuru will defeat what's his name, Theoria's brother, whatever the Wulguru do to sruvive he does and boom - healed.

Either way I doubt they will kill off Izuru - I can see something like Asagi sacrificing himself to save the day in the end. Again, as he said earlier ep "Your the best chance we have Izuru". It's too easy to see Izuru flying off to save the day, it's been done before in way too many shows.
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Old 2013-08-22, 17:27   Link #965
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Kei's chances to win drastically shot up now that Teoria is out of the race (at least I freaking hope so. Don't pull a Shinji on me, Izuru). I was a bit confused by Rin-rin's explanation as well but what I understood is that the only parent Izuru and Asagi share is their father, meaning Teoria isn't the mother of all the kids. I don't really see the point of making Asagi and Izuru (half-)brothers, but we'll see where they'll go with that.
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Old 2013-08-22, 17:41   Link #966
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Old 2013-08-22, 18:13   Link #967
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Kei's chances to win drastically shot up now that Teoria is out of the race (at least I freaking hope so. Don't pull a Shinji on me, Izuru). I was a bit confused by Rin-rin's explanation as well but what I understood is that the only parent Izuru and Asagi share is their father, meaning Teoria isn't the mother of all the kids. I don't really see the point of making Asagi and Izuru (half-)brothers, but we'll see where they'll go with that.
i suppose the big question right now is whether they were born human and then infused with the walguru dna or whether they were test tube babies from the start. considering Walguru take dna from others and use it on themselves both options are likely. how old is Teoria exactly?
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Old 2013-08-22, 18:47   Link #968
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i suppose the big question right now is whether they were born human and then infused with the walguru dna or whether they were test tube babies from the start. considering Walguru take dna from others and use it on themselves both options are likely. how old is Teoria exactly?
finally someone asking what i have been wondering because she doesn't look that old at all , but i believe wulgaru dont age like normal human , so i believe she may be older then she look but still young as a wulgaru.... her brother Jiart seem way older
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Old 2013-08-22, 18:49   Link #969
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(at least I freaking hope so. Don't pull a Shinji on me, Izuru)
You mean NGE Shinji, right? Shinji wasn't attracted to his mom, rather an alien soul trapped in body parts composed of DNA from his mom and miscellaneous proteins from LCL, all while not knowing. Here- Wait, Izuru was told Teoria is his mom too, wasn't he?
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Old 2013-08-22, 19:01   Link #970
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Kei's chances to win drastically shot up now that Teoria is out of the race (at least I freaking hope so. Don't pull a Shinji on me, Izuru). I was a bit confused by Rin-rin's explanation as well but what I understood is that the only parent Izuru and Asagi share is their father, meaning Teoria isn't the mother of all the kids. I don't really see the point of making Asagi and Izuru (half-)brothers, but we'll see where they'll go with that.
I imagine it's to set up for situations where Izuru isn't present, Asagi will take over, etc.
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Old 2013-08-22, 19:58   Link #971
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I must say that I am LOVING Teoria's outfit this episode. Her other clothes do't do her justice especially with how stacked she is.
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Old 2013-08-22, 20:01   Link #972
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I must say that I am LOVING Teoria's outfit this episode. Her other clothes do't do her justice especially with how stacked she is.
I was waiting for someone to post this.
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Old 2013-08-22, 20:07   Link #973
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Well a second season for this show is being considered I hope it becomes true since I don't see this ending properly and conclusivly in 4 episodes without it becoming a rush-fest.
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Old 2013-08-22, 20:29   Link #974
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I could see this ending just fine with the amount of eps they have left. I mean it is GOING SOMEWHERE now.
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I must say that I am LOVING Teoria's outfit this episode. Her other clothes do't do her justice especially with how stacked she is.
Not to mention I think part of the staff has a high heel fetish or something since half the female cast wears them as regular attire- Why the hell would I notice that? I did notice that Rin and Teoria are the only characters without regular head to toe official stills- WHY AM I NOTICING THAT TOO!?
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a second season for this show is being considered
Unless this has a really cruddy ending I don't care either way.

One thing that irks me is that Ataru got very little development. AT ALL. I mean sure a couple eps back he showed his skills to the test, but everyone else had at least several scenes through out the series to themselves to distinguish themselves. It is like with Tsuyoshi in Golion, the poor guy gets next to nothing. At least Asagi is getting some moments now so I can't compare him to Isamu (who only got slightly more bits to himself than Tsuyoshi, can't compare Ange Takashi since the latter only lived for six episodes).
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Old 2013-08-22, 20:33   Link #975
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Props to the guy who joked Theoria is Izuru's mom.
Thank you, thank you very much. I won't lie, I did a fist pump when Rin told Asagi.

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This is how I understood it as well. Theoria is Izuru's mom, while Asagi and Izuru have the same dad, Commander Simon. This would also explain why she's more/almost only concerned about Izuru then the others, as he's her son/test tube baby. I can't imagine she'd kick the others to the curb if they were also her children.
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Old 2013-08-22, 20:49   Link #976
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Thank you, thank you very much. I won't lie, I did a fist pump when Rin told Asagi.



This is how I understood it as well. Theoria is Izuru's mom, while Asagi and Izuru have the same dad, Commander Simon. This would also explain why she's more/almost only concerned about Izuru then the others, as he's her son/test tube baby. I can't imagine she'd kick the others to the curb if they were also her children.
well we can't be too sure about the details yet. It's certainly looking that way but all we have to go on right now is that Teoria donated some of her genes to Izuru which could just be like a blood transfusion or organ donor or something along those lines. I guess it really just depends on whether Izuru was already born when it took place. The wording this episodes was that they were used ON Izuru not used to CREATE Izuru. This makes me feel that she just used the same techniques that her people use to use DNA on themselves to transfer hers to the already born son of Simon, Izuru. My guess though is that THIS is why they had their memories erased prior to the academy when others still seem to have their past and families. They needed to hide that they infused them with the DNA of the Wulgaru.
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Old 2013-08-22, 22:46   Link #977
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It will then be how much Wulgaru DNA has been overwritten into Izuru that determines whether it will be alright for him to have sex with Theoria.
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Old 2013-08-22, 23:02   Link #978
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It will then be how much Wulgaru DNA has been overwritten into Izuru that determines whether it will be alright for him to have sex with Theoria.
Nooooooooo. Relationship with Kei so they can create an army of hybrids
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Old 2013-08-22, 23:37   Link #979
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Nooooooooo. Relationship with Kei so they can create an army of hybrids
I find Kei to be boring tbh. She doesn't really stand out to me in anything that she really does. Though I admit that Teoria deals with some issues from not being shown much and prety much just being an observer. But this episode definitely showed quite the sexy side of her.
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Old 2013-08-23, 01:34   Link #980
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well we can't be too sure about the details yet. It's certainly looking that way but all we have to go on right now is that Teoria donated some of her genes to Izuru which could just be like a blood transfusion or organ donor or something along those lines. I guess it really just depends on whether Izuru was already born when it took place. The wording this episodes was that they were used ON Izuru not used to CREATE Izuru. This makes me feel that she just used the same techniques that her people use to use DNA on themselves to transfer hers to the already born son of Simon, Izuru. My guess though is that THIS is why they had their memories erased prior to the academy when others still seem to have their past and families. They needed to hide that they infused them with the DNA of the Wulgaru.
The whole talk about the paternal (father side) indirectly hinted that Izuru's maternal genes was the topic at head. Besides, I'm not sure a blood transfusion or organ donation would be sufficient to completely alter a DNA gene.
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