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Old 2013-05-21, 04:21   Link #121
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Old 2013-05-21, 19:27   Link #122
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Old 2013-05-21, 19:33   Link #123
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When you are that deep into Federation space, who is going to attack you without having to go through Starfleet first?
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Old 2013-05-21, 22:33   Link #124
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When you are that deep into Federation space, who is going to attack you without having to go through Starfleet first?
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Old 2013-05-22, 00:01   Link #125
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Seriously. That kind of tech. was way beyond the 24th century stuff.
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Old 2013-05-22, 02:53   Link #126
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John Harrison may have refined that technology.
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Old 2013-05-22, 18:51   Link #127
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All in all, I thought the movie was OK. It had its moments and I enjoyed a fair bit of what was there. Honestly though, I think the complaint that kept coming into my mind as I was watching it, was that it just didn't feel like Star Trek. I know the major issue here is that this is a big-budget movie compared to a TV show from decades ago, but some of that style should have remained. All of the big-budget camera cuts and dutch angles, the constant effects, makes the movie feel far too quick. Star Trek was more operatic. It was slow, and paced. People actually talked about stuff sometimes. Honestly, I wish that they would just take a moment to develop an interesting plot and then actually explore it, instead of picking a plot and then force-feeding the audience the most fast-paced experience possible.
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Old 2013-05-22, 19:15   Link #128
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Old 2013-05-23, 07:38   Link #129
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Old 2013-05-23, 08:27   Link #130
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^ J.J., Rob Orci and Alex Kurtzman should've done their homework. It's even sillier if what happened in Into Darkness is intentional.
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Old 2013-05-23, 09:41   Link #131
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Setting up how things were so you can get to things like we remember them....sort of.
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Old 2013-05-23, 10:21   Link #132
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Old 2013-05-23, 10:34   Link #133
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If one looks back on the technology angle of Star Trek, and the care put into the older series film's starship Enterprise, you find that if the writers and directors followed the procedures and used the ship's technologies, there would be almost no way to have drama within the ship. Their are lots of safety features. Sickbay has everything up to and including cold storage bays for those that are almost dead. They have transporters for sickbay, cargo, people, and food. Supposedly the older film era Enterprise had transporters in the Food Processors that were only a tad bit inferior to those used in the Next Generation shows (same results, it just took longer to make stuff).

But because one needs to write what they write, things get ignored or redesigned.

The new movie does have some interesting features for the Starship Enterprise.
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Old 2013-05-26, 23:39   Link #134
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Old 2013-05-27, 17:29   Link #135
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I mostly really liked the movie. Could have done with less action more talking but I am not the target audience so Ill just have to deal.

I never saw the original Khan stories but I thought Khan was a great villain (and Benedict was great). I loved the moral questions the series brought up.

Still not completely sold on Kirk but I do love Spock, the Doc, & Scotty.

Also like Uruhara's role and that she gets to do stuff not just look pretty (although still not a fan of her relationship with Spock)

Overall I liked it more than the first movie.
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Old 2013-05-27, 20:06   Link #136
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Just saw the movie a couple days ago, gotta say, Benedict played the role so well, it alone would've been worth the price of admission.
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Old 2013-06-02, 05:18   Link #137
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Just something I realized.

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Old 2013-06-08, 00:46   Link #138
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This is interesting. While we think Section 31 paints the Vengeance black to distinguish them from regular white Starfleet it seems not all Starfleet ships are white.

The USS Excelsior painted red in ST Into Darkness.

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Found this at ex-astris-scientia.
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Old 2013-06-08, 03:28   Link #139
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Ah, so that's were they put her.
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Old 2013-06-14, 14:15   Link #140
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I never saw the original Khan stories but I thought Khan was a great villain (and Benedict was great). I loved the moral questions the series brought up.
I recommend Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. It was carried "on-demand" on my cable system, so I watched it with my daughter after we saw Into Darkness. She had not seen the movie or the original ST episode with Montalban. All the ST films are on Amazon Instant and are free to "Prime" subscribers like me.

I wonder if Khan reupholstered the seats of his spacecraft in "soft Corinthian leather."

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