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Old 2013-07-11, 15:44   Link #221
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I think Tomoko really needs psychological intervention. She especially needs help on her inability to speak to strangers - yes, there are many other deeper reasons behind her social incompetence (including a schizophrenic yo-yoing between affecting contempt for the "crowd" and wanting to be in) , but the biggest barrier that I see is that she has a crippling inability to speak to anyone unfamiliar. Unfortunately, Japan's infamous taboo against psychological intervention is working against her.

At the very least, Hachiman, Keima and Kodaka or even Kotoura does not suffer from that crippling shyness, and phobia of speaking to others. Given the tone of this story- at this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if it ends with Tomoko committing suicide, or some other kind of horrific bad end.
Yeah so far it's like a tragic dark humored story.
Her fear of people stems from her lack of self acceptance (she obviously hates herself)
I feel that her inability to communicate with others is because she feels like shes not worth it.
Hm I don't know if this is just a "just lay back and enjoy" cringy comedy since I haven't read the manga, but it would be so sick if they ended it on a tragic ending. That would certainly be unexpected, well for me at least.
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Old 2013-07-11, 17:04   Link #222
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I could see nova's suggestion of the manga ending with Tomoko committing suicide coming to pass. The fact that she threatened killing herself to her brother in this first episode would make Tomoko going through with the act towards the very end of the story a dark variation of the 'Things coming full circle' style of ending.
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Old 2013-07-11, 17:20   Link #223
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so...where's the fan art? Lol
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Old 2013-07-11, 17:45   Link #224
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Good adaption, I would only like it to move a little faster... by the way, why does the thread have an english title?
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Old 2013-07-11, 21:57   Link #225
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I think Tomoko really needs psychological intervention. She especially needs help on her inability to speak to strangers - yes, there are many other deeper reasons behind her social incompetence (including a schizophrenic yo-yoing between affecting contempt for the "crowd" and wanting to be in) , but the biggest barrier that I see is that she has a crippling inability to speak to anyone unfamiliar. Unfortunately, Japan's infamous taboo against psychological intervention is working against her.
She most likely has Social Anxiety Disorder:

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The diagnosis of social anxiety disorder can be of a specific disorder (when only specific social situations are feared) or a generalized disorder. Generalized social anxiety disorder typically involves a persistent, intense, chronic fear of being judged by others and of being embarrassed or humiliated by one's own actions. These fears can be triggered by perceived or actual scrutiny from others. While the fear of social interaction may be recognized by the person as excessive or unreasonable, overcoming it can be quite difficult. Social anxiety disorder is known to appear at an early age in most cases. 50% of those who develop this disorder have developed it by the age of 11 and 80% have developed it by age 20. This early age of onset may lead to people with social anxiety disorder being particularly vulnerable to depressive illnesses, drug abuse and other psychological conflicts.[3] Physical symptoms often accompanying social anxiety disorder include excessive blushing, sweating (hyperhidrosis), trembling, palpitations and nausea. Stammering may be present, along with rapid speech. Panic attacks can also occur under intense fear and discomfort. An early diagnosis may help minimize the symptoms and the development of additional problems, such as depression. Some sufferers may use alcohol or other drugs to reduce fears and inhibitions at social events. It is common for sufferers of social phobia to self-medicate in this fashion, especially if they are undiagnosed, untreated, or both; this can lead to alcoholism, eating disorders or other kinds of substance abuse.
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by the way, why does the thread have an english title?
That's how the original scanlator translated the title. It's not entirely accurate (it's literally, "However You Think About It, My Unpopularity Is Your Fault") but it's what most manga fans call it.
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Old 2013-07-11, 22:02   Link #226
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Well not to bad but why would she make her self so ugly by doing that
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Old 2013-07-12, 03:43   Link #227
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This girl... is actually kinda cute, except for when she goes duckface. I hope she doesn't suicide at the end or something.
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Old 2013-07-12, 10:44   Link #228
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I could see nova's suggestion of the manga ending with Tomoko committing suicide coming to pass. The fact that she threatened killing herself to her brother in this first episode would make Tomoko going through with the act towards the very end of the story a dark variation of the 'Things coming full circle' style of ending.
Oy, that would be terrible!

I took her suicide threat as comical...just from how the scene was treated...
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Old 2013-07-12, 11:03   Link #229
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Holy shit this series is depressing. I mean series like Boku wa Tomodachi and Yahari deal with "loner" issues but at least that had you know... interactions with other people. This? Probably hits too close for comfort for actual loners out there.

Think this classifies as a dark comedy which the closest I can relate to (but still different) is Welcome to the NHK.

In saying that though, there were moments where it tried a bit too hard e.g. That Death Note copy bit with the mouse. I lold at that.
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Old 2013-07-12, 22:02   Link #230
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Holy shit this series is depressing. I mean series like Boku wa Tomodachi and Yahari deal with "loner" issues but at least that had you know... interactions with other people. This? Probably hits too close for comfort for actual loners out there.

Think this classifies as a dark comedy which the closest I can relate to (but still different) is Welcome to the NHK.

In saying that though, there were moments where it tried a bit too hard e.g. That Death Note copy bit with the mouse. I lold at that.
The comparison is not even close...
Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai is a harem show in disguise. Yahari is about people who prefer lonliness. This show is about an unpopular girl. She looks like a vampire. She dresses like a goth. Her look is not ugly. If she looks ugly, it will turn away many viewers. The story looks more like guy's view on a hikomori girl.
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Old 2013-07-13, 01:09   Link #231
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Laughed my ass off at this first episode. Surprisingly, I always had friends, so it wasn't really hard to watch it.

Will be following this one. Hope she actually gets a friend by the end of the season.
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Old 2013-07-13, 08:17   Link #232
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so...where's the fan art? Lol
you asked for it. Keep in mind that the fan art often makes her look pretty.
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Old 2013-07-13, 08:25   Link #233
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Actually, I think she's cute ! :O
I don't understand why people says she's ugly...

This first episode is really really interesting. I can totally relate about myself when I started High School. No friends at all.
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Old 2013-07-13, 08:32   Link #234
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Actually, I think she's cute ! :O
I don't understand why people says she's ugly...

This first episode is really really interesting. I can totally relate about myself when I started High School. No friends at all.
I don't get it myself. Even in the show she's considered by her brother to be average (which I would say is high praise from, of all people, her little brother). She's really not ugly, she just doesn't take care of herself. To be honest, her disheveled hair is kind of cute.

Also, that first picture: Yoink
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Old 2013-07-13, 08:48   Link #235
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Spoiler for so you are telling me:

That this is not huggable?

edited btw
Why does she remind me of Ururu from Bleach?

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Someone has to make a gif with her death note googling scene along with Light
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Also, remember that she grabs for the Light in the OP?


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Old 2013-07-13, 09:23   Link #236
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I too think she's cute. Maybe she'd be really pretty if she took better care of herself (and the fan art definitely seems to prove that), but as she is in the show, I don't think she's that unattractive, either.
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Old 2013-07-13, 10:41   Link #237
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Tomoko is certainly cute-she just needs to catch up on her sleep to get rid of those bags. More than ugly, she only looks a bit unhealthy, that's all.
JUST DON'T MAKE THAT DUCK-FACE.
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Old 2013-07-13, 11:32   Link #238
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Interesting story and lovable characters, with that I mean both siblings. It is kind of funny that the young of them two seems to be the more mature one, despite being male, as normally you would assume that the female sibling to be the more mature one.
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Old 2013-07-13, 12:21   Link #239
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Dude yes she needs to sleep. Cut down on the internet and games and just sleep more, sleeeep woman!
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Old 2013-07-13, 12:30   Link #240
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Dude yes she needs to sleep. Cut down on the internet and games and just sleep more, sleeeep woman!
The funny thing is maybe those dark circles are hereditary, because her brother has it too?
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