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Old 2013-07-14, 14:49   Link #61
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It's so blatant with the BL overtones, that the girls don't even have to use their imagination that much.
You have to take into account the magazine which it's published in. Nearly all of the mangas published in Zero Sum are very blatant with the overtones despite being a josei magazine

I really don't see why people must compare it with Kuroshitsuji, it has a butler but Kuroshitsuji wasn't the first to include one and I can name tons of manga/anime based in England or another ones which use Solomon and the 72 pillars...

About episode 2.
The animation at the start of the episode was horrible, it improved with Sitri's appearance but god... Like Karneval, the anime doesn't capture the manga's style.
I'm liking Matsuoka's performance although Sitri's transformation was so lol.
The episode in general was ok. And I finally could see the Hurray for John Dalton! scene animated
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Old 2013-07-14, 16:07   Link #62
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Actually, I know that even some fujoshi find it generic. It's so blatant with the BL overtones, that the girls don't even have to use their imagination that much. Yet, if it was actually a BL, it would still be only an "okay" one.

Strangely enough. Free! does a better job of being fujoshi bait than this show does.
This was more or less my exact thought.

"Does... Does this show actually have any females? I think I've made a terrible mistake..."

Although it is, unfortunately, interesting enough to keep watching. I am filled with fear.
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Old 2013-07-14, 16:34   Link #63
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"Does... Does this show actually have any females? I think I've made a terrible mistake..."
One of the credits (I think it's the ED) shows a character (presumably a demon) with a large bust and significant cleavage. So I assume there's at least one female in the cast.
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Old 2013-07-14, 16:45   Link #64
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One of the credits (I think it's the ED) shows a character (presumably a demon) with a large bust and significant cleavage. So I assume there's at least one female in the cast.
I HAD THOUGHT THAT SYTRY WOULD BE A FEMALE.

I'm just going to assume for the time being that the character in the ED is some minor character with extra chest armor.
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Old 2013-07-14, 16:49   Link #65
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I HAD THOUGHT THAT SYTRY WOULD BE A FEMALE.

I'm just going to assume for the time being that the character in the ED is some minor character with extra chest armor.
I really think Sytry is a female. I'm thinking it's going to be similar to the introduction of Charles/Charlotte in IS, appears as a boy, but is eventually found to be a woman.
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Old 2013-07-14, 17:58   Link #66
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One of the credits (I think it's the ED) shows a character (presumably a demon) with a large bust and significant cleavage. So I assume there's at least one female in the cast.
In the ED there's 4 females shown and in the OP there's 2 females. In fact, there's seiyuus confirmed some time ago in scans although ANN and other sites didn't mention it:
Sachi Kokuryu will play Astaroth (busty one) according to one of the latest Zero Sum
Mikami Shiori will be her daughter Lamia (she confirmed it in twitter)
again with Eguchi Takuya
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Old 2013-07-14, 18:42   Link #67
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I really think Sytry is a female. I'm thinking it's going to be similar to the introduction of Charles/Charlotte in IS, appears as a boy, but is eventually found to be a woman.
Well he's not. Then again who knows maybe demons don't really have a gender... either way his VA is a male.

The animation in the beginning was pretty bad but overall I don't mind it. I'm just so used to all the bishie/shoujo shows being by DEEN and in that style that I'm happy to see them done by other studios even if the animation isn't so great
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Old 2013-07-14, 19:03   Link #68
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The show is definitely girl oriented. Else, it wouldn't make sense for one guy foundling another guy's face. The ED is sung by bunches guys. The setting reminds me about Akutabe . Akutabe is definitely not involved. Else, all summoned demons will eventually become the strange looking muppets.
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Old 2013-07-21, 14:51   Link #69
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Old 2013-07-21, 16:02   Link #70
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lol William is no realist. A genuine realist would try to understand the mysteries. Will just goes into full denial mode.

And now he's in full blown denial that the church is out to assassinate him? How much more retarded can this get?

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Old 2013-07-21, 16:44   Link #71
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Old 2013-07-21, 16:51   Link #72
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This episode was supposed to introduce 2 female characters but they skipped many chapters and what was covered here was also a bit rushed. Like kuromitsu said, the best parts were skipped (the "you should see a doctor" part is one of my fav moments).
Meh episode but at least Kevin can appear more from now on and Camio epispde next week yay (will Kakihara Tetsuya pronounce his name correctly?)
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Old 2013-07-21, 17:22   Link #73
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By the way, I enjoy the anime so far, despite the general LQ-ness and many of the jokes being cut. I like the comedy part of this story a lot more than the drama part (well, the most recent story in the manga is the kind of drama I'm cool with), but the voices help a lot with the latter. As I expected, I already like Dantalion more in the anime than in the manga, and Matsuoka is totally killing it as Sitri.

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Old 2013-07-21, 18:25   Link #74
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By the way, I enjoy the anime so far, despite the general LQ-ness and many of the jokes being cut. I like the comedy part of this story a lot more than the drama part (well, the most recent story in the manga is the kind of drama I'm cool with), but the voices help a lot with the latter. As I expected, I already like Dantalion more in the anime than in the manga, and Matsuoka is totally killing it as Sitri.

The animation isn't bad, but yes it's not nearly as pretty as the manga. Honestly though I've rarely see a pretty/beautifully drawn manga that I thought looked just as good animated.

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I can see why they cut some things as they aren't horrible important to the story, more just funny side stuff. Like the "ghost" at Issac's house bit.

I also enjoy seeing the fight scene's animated, because I always had a hard time knowing exactly what was going on in some of them with just the manga.

Earlier someone mentioned there being an event, is there a link to see that?
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Old 2013-07-21, 18:39   Link #75
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The animation isn't bad, but yes it's not nearly as pretty as the manga. Honestly though I've rarely see a pretty/beautifully drawn manga that I thought looked just as good animated.
It's a budget issue, really. This anime is clearly made on a very tight budget with very simplistic animation, they can't really afford to deal with delicate character designs that are difficult to animate. They're having trouble with faces as they are now.

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I can see why they cut some things as they aren't horrible important to the story, more just funny side stuff. Like the "ghost" at Issac's house bit.
But those are the things I really liked about the manga. I find the drama kind of cookie-cutter. (If only this aired in the same season as Azazel-san 2... ) Oh well, at least the voices help.
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Old 2013-07-21, 19:12   Link #76
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It's a budget issue, really. This anime is clearly made on a very tight budget with very simplistic animation, they can't really afford to deal with delicate character designs that are difficult to animate. They're having trouble with faces as they are now.


But those are the things I really liked about the manga. I find the drama kind of cookie-cutter. (If only this aired in the same season as Azazel-san 2... ) Oh well, at least the voices help.

Oh yeah, I understand. That and when you're animating 100's to 1000's of frames you have to simplify things. So yeah, not as good as it could be, but I've seen worst, and I understand why it is the way it is.

I hear ya, it does suck some of the fun out of the show. The "ghost" bit at Issac's house is one of my favorite chapters, not to mention Williams solution on what they should do with it. Astaroth and her teeth, is that even possible. xD
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Old 2013-07-27, 03:05   Link #77
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They haven't reached the goal, but they're holding another Nico live anyway, this time with only the devils plus "Yagimoto." XD (Poor Matsuoka, his suffering will never end...)

Also, apparently Michael will be played by Kamiya Hiroshi, adding another white/white-ish haired pretty boy to his list... I imagine the casting for these characters goes like, "Oh, a white-haired pretty boy? Is Kamiya-san available?" If they ever get around introducing Metatron they can make an angelic choir to balance the "devils and realist" singing group.

(Beelzebub will be Tachibana Shinnosuke... I dunno, not what I expected, but why not. But I'm disappointed that they missed out on a seiyuu joke by not making Kamiya play him. )

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Old 2013-07-27, 05:10   Link #78
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(Beelzebub will be Tachibana Shinnosuke... I dunno, not what I expected, but why not. But I'm disappointed that they missed out on a seiyuu joke by not making Kamiya play him. )
This. This so much. Honestly I wish they swapped them around. Tachibana would make a fine Michael but the main thing is that Kamiyan needs to be Beelzebub.
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Old 2013-07-27, 19:45   Link #79
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They haven't reached the goal, but they're holding another Nico live anyway, this time with only the devils plus "Yagimoto." XD (Poor Matsuoka, his suffering will never end...)

Also, apparently Michael will be played by Kamiya Hiroshi, adding another white/white-ish haired pretty boy to his list... I imagine the casting for these characters goes like, "Oh, a white-haired pretty boy? Is Kamiya-san available?" If they ever get around introducing Metatron they can make an angelic choir to balance the "devils and realist" singing group.

(Beelzebub will be Tachibana Shinnosuke... I dunno, not what I expected, but why not. But I'm disappointed that they missed out on a seiyuu joke by not making Kamiya play him. )
Kamita-san?! Yay! Although what's the joke if he had played Beelzebub?
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Old 2013-07-28, 14:40   Link #80
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Kamita-san?! Yay! Although what's the joke if he had played Beelzebub?
He already played a Beelzebub in Yondemasu yo Azazel-san. He's a very special character. XD

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Cute curly shota is cute. I haven't seen drills on a male character since Gankutsuou... (And even Andrea had only one drill, it was an awesome one, though.)

Anyway, the animation was extra low budget in this ep, but at least finally we have Camio and his anachronistically fashionable glasses. I like Camio, he's pretty much the only sane character in the entire story.

And next week it's the killmoulins story! Yay! And Astaroth & Lamia's introductory chapter. o_o) I thought they'd at least move the plot a little... now I wonder where they're planning to stop.

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