AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Anime Discussion > Older Series > Shin Sekai Yori

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2013-01-13, 03:20   Link #1
relentlessflame
 
*Administrator
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Age: 32
Shin Sekai Yori - Character Discussion - Squealer/Yakomaru

The purpose of this thread is to provide a place to discuss all things Squealer/Yakomaru related.
To keep the discussion enjoyable for all Shin Sekai Yori fans, please follow the guidelines below and stay on-topic!
Note: Please don't use this for the specifics (i.e. episode, chapter, game, etc. discussion) there are other threads for that stuff.
Thread Guidelines
  • No campaigning!
    No "hate" or "xyz must die" posts. Discuss why you do or don't like characters without whinging and whining or blatantly campaigning for your favourite.

  • Be polite to your fellow forum members.
    Do not insult or harass other members for their likes and dislikes. Do not take it so seriously that you end up in an argument with another forum member because they express a fondness for a character you loathe. Discussion and good spirited banter are always welcome, but harassing people will not be tolerated.

  • Discuss, don't chat.
    Please remember that AnimeSuki is a discussion forum, not a chat room, there is a difference. If you wish to chat, then please make use of our IRC channel.

  • Have fun, but post intelligently.
    It's great to have fun, but please try your best to add substance to what you post and make your thoughts interesting for the generation of fans that will follow after you’re long gone and on to watching some other series.

  • Use Spoiler tags!
    Spoilers are allowed, but they must be enclosed in spoiler tags clearly marked with a proper title. Failure to do this can result in a BAN.

    • Adding a Spoiler tag:
      Just highlight your spoiler and click the button found on the "Quick Reply" and "Reply to Thread" forms. Make sure that you include a title for the spoiler!

    • Please use the Report button if you see any spoilers:
      Click the button found to the left of the post, just under the poster's avatar. Using the Report button is anonymous and helps the Moderators to locate and deal with problems quickly.

    • Posting prohibited spoilers may result in a ban.
      Note: Reporting a post does not mean the poster will be banned instantly. The Moderators will use bans if warnings are repeatedly ignored.
relentlessflame is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-13, 04:35   Link #2
NoemiChan
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Philippines
Age: 26
Send a message via Yahoo to NoemiChan Send a message via Skype™ to NoemiChan
At least one was accepted.

Lets get started.

Squealer, I never thought he would be that important until now. I thought he was just the "side kick" of that possum or fox, forgot his name but, man.. he becomes more irritating and interesting at the same time. He is very smart and very manipulative....

I becoming anxious whenever I see him... He always seems to be going to the bad side.
NoemiChan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-13, 14:48   Link #3
kuromitsu
我、勝てり!
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
The more I think about Squealer the more I like him. As a villain, he's reaching almost Shakespearean heights, and he's definitely one of the most intersting characters, if not the most interesting.
kuromitsu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-13, 19:38   Link #4
LuxorMG
ItadakiMAKO
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Ann Arbor
Well now I wouldn't call him Shakespearean just yet, but he certainly has the potential to be one of the most fascinating characters this year.
__________________
LuxorMG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-14, 23:51   Link #5
Arkeus
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Squealer's definitely less interesting than most other characters like Satory or Shun or Yomiko. (And obviously saki, who is awesome).

He is, however, the first real 'Antagonist' we see. All other characters we saw were just part of the machine, or simply trying to cope as best as they could.

Squealer, though.... well, watching him being his Evil, Evil assholish self is going to pull at my heartstrings.
Arkeus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-15, 00:04   Link #6
MeoTwister5
Komrades of Kitamura Kou
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Where I can learn to be lonely.
Age: 29
I don't think he's evil, but I don't think he's good either. His actions don't look close to any sort of malevolence as, from what we can see, he's doing it truly for the betterment of his colony's prosperity. At the same time, he's not above doing certain things some POVs might see as evil if it is necessary, as with their treatment of their former queen.
MeoTwister5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-15, 00:22   Link #7
Raviel
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by MeoTwister5 View Post
I don't think he's evil, but I don't think he's good either. His actions don't look close to any sort of malevolence as, from what we can see, he's doing it truly for the betterment of his colony's prosperity. At the same time, he's not above doing certain things some POVs might see as evil if it is necessary, as with their treatment of their former queen.
I have to agree that he isn't necessarily evil, but he's had a taste of power and now he definitely wants more of it.

He's more an overly ambitious politician then anything else. (Of course we all know what overly ambitious politicians can do )
Raviel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-15, 00:31   Link #8
MeoTwister5
Komrades of Kitamura Kou
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Where I can learn to be lonely.
Age: 29
He's closer to the observation of how power corrupts, especially for those who aren't prepared when they get it.

Unless of course, this has been his intention all along.
MeoTwister5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-15, 02:04   Link #9
Arkeus
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by MeoTwister5 View Post
He's closer to the observation of how power corrupts, especially for those who aren't prepared when they get it.

Unless of course, this has been his intention all along.
That's how he has been portrayed in the anime, at least. He was always about manipulating the ones above him in order to get more power, and if things get rough run away and save his own hide.

He is the perfect example of a smart, ambitious man who not only lobotomize his enemies for more power, but recognize he needs to better his people's over-all power if his ambitions could work.
Arkeus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-19, 09:26   Link #10
Kheve
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Well he isnt really a villian per se.

Kheve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-19, 09:30   Link #11
NoemiChan
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Philippines
Age: 26
Send a message via Yahoo to NoemiChan Send a message via Skype™ to NoemiChan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kheve View Post
Well he isnt really a villian per se.
He's a good example of an adverse reaction of democracy.

Last edited by NoemiChan; 2013-01-19 at 17:26.
NoemiChan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-19, 17:09   Link #12
AvatarST
◕‿‿◕
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Argentina
Age: 29
Send a message via AIM to AvatarST Send a message via MSN to AvatarST
Squealer is seriously unnerving. He's very manipulative and seems like he's not above doing whatever it takes, no matter how horrible, to fulfill his objectives.

What I'm not sure of is if his objectives are just attaining more power and glory for himself, or he's doing it for his people. Both ways, his methods are really questionable...
__________________
AvatarST is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-20, 02:39   Link #13
Cosmic Eagle
宿命に全てを奪われた少女
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: 宿命と時間の巻きに
Quote:
Originally Posted by AvatarST View Post
Squealer is seriously unnerving. He's very manipulative and seems like he's not above doing whatever it takes, no matter how horrible, to fulfill his objectives.

What I'm not sure of is if his objectives are just attaining more power and glory for himself, or he's doing it for his people. Both ways, his methods are really questionable...
Against the esper society? nah....the only people you can sympathize with here are Group One. Squealer's no more horrible than the villagers
__________________
Cosmic Eagle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-27, 10:16   Link #14
Kirarakim
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
It's early in the year but as of now he is competing with Makashima (from Psycho Pass) as the best villain/antagonist of the year.
__________________
Kirarakim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-27, 10:20   Link #15
Repelsteeltju
DRRR!!
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: The Netherlands
You all mad? Yakomaru is the HERO destined to end decades of molerat slavery. He will tear those false gods from their pedestal, he and his people shall inherit the earth while simultaneously ending the corruption of the land caused by the overflowing uncontrolled cantuspowers of those who call themselves human.

Because really; shouldn't all intelligent individuals be given equal rights?
Repelsteeltju is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-27, 10:31   Link #16
Kirarakim
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Yakomaru is in no way a hero. I am not saying the humans are treating the queerrats right. I never said the queerats themselves were villains, I also see them as victims.
but that is a separate issue from Yakomaru.

Yakomaru will do anything to get what he wants and not just manipulate the humans but also turn on his own kind. I don't think Yakomaru necessarily cares about the rights of his kind, from what I see he only cares about himself and his own hide. He's despicable in every way.
__________________
Kirarakim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-27, 12:14   Link #17
NoemiChan
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Philippines
Age: 26
Send a message via Yahoo to NoemiChan Send a message via Skype™ to NoemiChan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Repelsteeltju View Post
You all mad? Yakomaru is the HERO destined to end decades of molerat slavery.
Yakomaru would have been a Hero if he have a word of honor and not a complete liar and a hypocrite.
NoemiChan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-27, 12:19   Link #18
Ringil
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
You don't need to be honorable to be a hero :P. On the other hand, Yakomaru is clearly the creepiest guy ever.
Ringil is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-27, 12:22   Link #19
Shadow5YA
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ringil View Post
You don't need to be honorable to be a hero :P. On the other hand, Yakomaru is clearly the creepiest guy ever.
I think part of that is because of his face/body. Had Squealer been a bishounen instead of an ugly bakenezumi, the reactions would be quite different.
Shadow5YA is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-01-27, 12:32   Link #20
kuromitsu
我、勝てり!
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow5YA View Post
I think part of that is because of his face/body. Had Squealer been a bishounen instead of an ugly bakenezumi, the reactions would be quite different.
Dunno, he would be still a creepy guy. Just, you know, a pretty one. Creepy bishounen aren't particularly rare...
kuromitsu is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
characters

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:55.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
We use Silk.