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Old 2013-06-02, 16:32   Link #961
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MS will do nothing as long as the Xbone doesn't bomb.

And as much as I hate to say it it will sell. Marketing works wonders and MS knows how to market things.

Once they show the games people will buy this thing.
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Old 2013-06-02, 17:01   Link #962
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MS will do nothing as long as the Xbone doesn't bomb.

And as much as I hate to say it it will sell. Marketing works wonders and MS knows how to market things.

Once they show the games people will buy this thing.
And what happens to the normal people who weren't informed of the 24 hour login requirement, and bought the console not knowing they can't actually USE it?

They would return the Console to the store. And buy a PS4.

It doesn't matter how good your marketing is, if a large part of the consumer base can only use Xbox 1 as a doorstop.

Further, if the restriction on used games go through, no doubt the clerks in the store would be instructed to promote PS4 when ever possible.
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Old 2013-06-02, 17:12   Link #963
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MS will do nothing as long as the Xbone doesn't bomb.

And as much as I hate to say it it will sell. Marketing works wonders and MS knows how to market things.

Once they show the games people will buy this thing.
If I say to ANY of my group of friends or family, that you would at least need internet connections and not be able to sell your games, I doubt they would even consider it an option.

Even the casual can see it's a bad deal! One would have to have lived in a cave to get a Xbone, without at least knowing about its drawbacks.
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Old 2013-06-02, 17:24   Link #964
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MS will do nothing as long as the Xbone doesn't bomb.

And as much as I hate to say it it will sell. Marketing works wonders and MS knows how to market things.

Once they show the games people will buy this thing.
If Sony had followed Microsoft's lead, you might have been right.

But now, I doubt it.

We now know that the PS4 will have significant advantages over XBox One. Knowledgeable gamers will be aware of that. I can easily see many console gamers going with PS4 (or PS4 and WiiU) this generation.

I'm sure that the most hardcore fans of XBox's exclusives will still buy that console, but Microsoft may get little else besides that. And if they get little else besides that, they're going to be hurting, I think.
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Old 2013-06-02, 17:45   Link #965
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not many gamers have both a 360 and a ps3, but you can find many that have a wii and one of those two
Guilty as charged. :k
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Old 2013-06-03, 17:58   Link #966
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Remember that news about XBONE possibly giving people acheivements for watching TV? Seems they got a patent application that takes things a

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The patent, snappily titled "Awards and achievements across TV ecosystem", describes camera sensors monitoring the eye movements and heartbeats of TV viewers. Which means a console will know if you're in the room when an ad break is on, or if you've popped out to make tea. It'll also be able to tell whether you're actually watching the ad or if you're engrossed in the latest issue of Heat magazine. And don't even think about gaming the system by watching telly with the lights off: the XBox would be able to monitor you even in the dark.

Every move you make, every breath you take, the Xbox would be watching you but also rewarding you. The patent suggests that sitting through commercial breaks would rack you up points to buy both virtual and physical awards. The thinking behind this being that people today need to be bribed in order to sit still and watch a commercial. As the patent application explains: "With the proliferation of digital video recording devices, advertisers are finding it increasingly difficult to introduce their advertisements to viewers."
More of that creepy always watching you kinect...



Also since there's been talk of used games, there's a study on the effects of killing used gaming... Supposedly the researchers believe that killing used games sales would actually result in a 10% loss for publishers. The basic belief is that without being able to resell their games, gamers will ultimately spend less money on games, and not be as willing to buy games, resulting in a loss for publishers. The only way that could counter this effect would be lower game prices by 33% (or about $40). The results seem like they make sense when you consider steam sales; you can't resell your games on steam, but it seems like A LOT of gamers don't care because the steam sales allow you to get those games at a much lower price.

Though i'm not sure if Steam sales would be a good comparison... what drives steam sales is not just the low price, but the feeling that you're saving money on a product worth more than what you spend. If $40 became the new standard it would not feel the same as when you spend $40 on a game priced at $60...
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Old 2013-06-03, 19:31   Link #967
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This just in some leaked info for E3.

Spoiler:
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Old 2013-06-03, 19:33   Link #968
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I see Halo 5 at the corner.

Looking good... Absolutely nothing of interest to sway my decision
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Old 2013-06-03, 20:04   Link #969
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I see Halo 5 at the corner.

Looking good... Absolutely nothing of interest to sway my decision
There's also a "Halo ------an assault".

interesting.
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Old 2013-06-03, 20:06   Link #970
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If Sony had followed Microsoft's lead, you might have been right.

But now, I doubt it.

We now know that the PS4 will have significant advantages over XBox One. Knowledgeable gamers will be aware of that. I can easily see many console gamers going with PS4 (or PS4 and WiiU) this generation.

I'm sure that the most hardcore fans of XBox's exclusives will still buy that console, but Microsoft may get little else besides that. And if they get little else besides that, they're going to be hurting, I think.
Most of the big sellers like CoD, Battlefield, etc already require constant connection and are not very good at being resold in the first place. People without constant internet connection is probably not in their target audience and they've decided that they'd be better off without them.
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Old 2013-06-03, 20:13   Link #971
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I knew Fable IV would be mentioned sooner or later, though the XBO will require MUCH more than a Fable game to sway me into buying it.
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Old 2013-06-03, 20:15   Link #972
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There's also a "Halo ------an assault".

interesting.
That would be Halo Spartan Assault.

Its on ign or kotaku...
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Old 2013-06-03, 20:18   Link #973
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Looking good... Absolutely nothing of interest to sway my decision
What, you mean Banjo-Kazooie isn't a total system seller!?
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Old 2013-06-03, 20:58   Link #974
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Who needs Fable IV when The Witcher 3 is coming to PC and PS4?

Fable IV will probably go on PC eventually, too.
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Old 2013-06-03, 22:06   Link #975
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This just in some leaked info for E3.

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I...I see a Banjo logo....I don't have words at the moment.

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What, you mean Banjo-Kazooie isn't a total system seller!?
It is for me. Unless it's like Nuts and Bolts.
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Old 2013-06-03, 22:30   Link #976
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What, you mean Banjo-Kazooie isn't a total system seller!?
Oh that logo certainly made me pause... kinda of a silent "oh my gosh" moment

but then i remembered that Rare is a shell of its former self. Not only did the old talent most likely leave years ago, i doubt ANYONE at rare has the talent to pull it off. Afterall, this is not the rare of Star Fox 64 and Banjo tooie; its not even the Rare of Perfect dark zero and Nutz and bolts; This is the Rare of Kinect Sports (I shudder at the thought of a Grunty Land being somekind of amusement park filled with Kinect minigames)... Honestly, unless the IP rights get transferred to another studio, i have little to no hope of a TRUE Banjo Kazooie revival. (personally i'm thinking Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Double Fine, and possibly nintendo)
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Old 2013-06-04, 00:17   Link #977
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Oh that logo certainly made me pause... kinda of a silent "oh my gosh" moment

but then i remembered that Rare is a shell of its former self. Not only did the old talent most likely leave years ago, i doubt ANYONE at rare has the talent to pull it off. Afterall, this is not the rare of Star Fox 64 and Banjo tooie; its not even the Rare of Perfect dark zero and Nutz and bolts; This is the Rare of Kinect Sports (I shudder at the thought of a Grunty Land being somekind of amusement park filled with Kinect minigames)... Honestly, unless the IP rights get transferred to another studio, i have little to no hope of a TRUE Banjo Kazooie revival. (personally i'm thinking Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Double Fine, and possibly nintendo)
Yeah, I'm not gonna get excited either. Grunty Land makes it sound like it might even be some themed, gimmicky crap.

Give it to Gory Detail. That's where some of the old Rare guys are anyway.
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Old 2013-06-04, 11:02   Link #978
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This just in some leaked info for E3.

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For a moment there I got a bit sad about Fable VI but then I remembered that Fable 3 came out for the PC anyway... and how much it sucked.
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Old 2013-06-04, 12:10   Link #979
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I hope that's Dead Rising 3 on the middle right.

Anyway, that Halo Spartan Assult looks terrible. No one, not even girl halo fans want to play as that @!%&. Would rather play as the Lt guy in a Halo Wars 2. Atleast a new spartan male or female idc, better than HER.
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Old 2013-06-04, 16:25   Link #980
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I think I see Dead Rising 3 in there....I HOPE I SEE DEAD RISING 3 IN THERE!!!
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