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Old 2013-06-04, 16:50   Link #981
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That would be Halo Spartan Assault.

Its on ign or kotaku...
Some more info on Spartan Assault.

http://www.bluesnews.com/s/142220/ha...-for-windows-8

To me it's a mere top down shooter, nothing of real interest. I think the more dedicated Halo fans will enjoy this, but I was hoping Microsoft would take the PC a bit more seriously and give us more offerings in the way of Halo.
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Old 2013-06-04, 17:35   Link #982
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Some more info on Spartan Assault.

http://www.bluesnews.com/s/142220/ha...-for-windows-8

To me it's a mere top down shooter, nothing of real interest. I think the more dedicated Halo fans will enjoy this, but I was hoping Microsoft would take the PC a bit more seriously and give us more offerings in the way of Halo.
It would benefit Xbox One if they DIDN'T take the PC more seriously... cause i mean if can get a hot xbox title on PC, then you don't really need an Xbox. Though Halo Spartan Assault will be coming out for windows 8 mobile devices... if i had a windows 8 tablet and the game was cheap, i think i'd probably pick it up

Though speaking of Halo... When can we guess Halo 5 will come out? afterall Halo 4 only came out a year ago so it seems unlikely it would be a launch title for XBone. Really one little annoying detail about the lack of backwards compatibility is that i think Halo 4, 5 and 6 are supposed to be part of a triology; and yet if you get an Xbox one but don't have a 360, you won't be able to play the first game in the trilogy. I can't help but think that Microsoft should have beefed up the graphics of the game and delayed it for one year so that Halo 4 could be a launch title for the Xbox One. Halo is a HUGE system seller and it would also make sure that xbox one gamers would be able to play the whole triology
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Old 2013-06-04, 18:00   Link #983
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For a moment there I got a bit sad about Fable VI but then I remembered that Fable 3 came out for the PC anyway... and how much it sucked.
After Peter Molyneux left lion head studios when completing Fable the Journey. We can only hope that Fable 4 does not end up the same as Fable 3.

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It would benefit Xbox One if they DIDN'T take the PC more seriously... cause i mean if can get a hot xbox title on PC, then you don't really need an Xbox. Though Halo Spartan Assault will be coming out for windows 8 mobile devices... if i had a windows 8 tablet and the game was cheap, i think i'd probably pick it up

Though speaking of Halo... When can we guess Halo 5 will come out? afterall Halo 4 only came out a year ago so it seems unlikely it would be a launch title for XBone. Really one little annoying detail about the lack of backwards compatibility is that i think Halo 4, 5 and 6 are supposed to be part of a triology; and yet if you get an Xbox one but don't have a 360, you won't be able to play the first game in the trilogy. I can't help but think that Microsoft should have beefed up the graphics of the game and delayed it for one year so that Halo 4 could be a launch title for the Xbox One. Halo is a HUGE system seller and it would also make sure that xbox one gamers would be able to play the whole triology
Well if any of the past e3s that announced Halo titles were of any indication, I would have take a guess that Halo 5 is going to be a 2014 release. Since it is quite possible that this years e3 it might just be a Halo 5 teaser trailer announcement, which is what I bet it would be.

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Old 2013-06-04, 23:40   Link #984
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http://www.stfuandplay.com/story/con...d#.Ua7A8UCsiSq

[About a month ago I was told by an unnamed source that Microsoft was having heating issues with the Xbox One. There wasn’t enough details to go forward with a story so it was kept under wraps until more information surfaced on this issue. Today, a completely different source close to the Xbox One project, informed me that Microsoft will have to under clock the Xbox One about 100-200mhz to fix the systems heating issues.

What does this mean to developers? Well we already know that the PS4 is more of a powerhouse than the Xbox One. It has faster RAM and bus bandwidth than the Xbox One already. Under clocking the system will widen the gap between the two consoles, but at the same time will keep the failure rate on the Xbox One very low. The last thing we need is another RRoD fiasco. In terms of games, you will see a significant difference in multiplatform titles. Lower clock speed means lower frame rates. This means that a game running 60fps on PS4 may only run at 30fps on Xbox One. Even given the current specs, this would probably still be the case except now we are under clocking the GPU. This could affect other things like the Peak Shader Throughput. If Minecraft were to be released for both Xbox One and PS4, you’d see no difference. A game like Battlefield 4 my run at a lower framerate on the Xbox One than it does on the PS4. We still don’t know how much the eSRAM is going to boost or hinder performance of the Xbox One. We also can’t leave out the fact that every developer, every game and every engine runs differently. They could theoretically boost frame rates on the Xbox One to match PS4 by turning off AA effects and lowering resolution.

I’ve received this information from two different sources, but I would still chalk it up as a rumor until we are able to get more information from Microsoft. Things could still change between now and launch. I wouldn’t worry too much about this problem because under clocking the system is the safest route to go when issues like this arise. The biggest test will be when Digital Foundry gets their hands on the first multiplatform next generation title.]

More info stuff.

http://wiiudaily.com/2013/06/spike-e...ndo-microsoft/

Seems strange they aren't covering Sony at all and are running an old movie instead.

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Old 2013-06-04, 23:56   Link #985
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I read that about the rumor of XBone possibly having its hardware take a hit. The rumor discussed at GAF. I'd like to see what comes of that rumor. The XBox One may be capable of less if this is true.
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Old 2013-06-05, 01:56   Link #986
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New Xbox One - TV Integration: Exclusive WIRED Video

TV part seems way too laggy, nothing like what we were shown before. Maybe it'll be fixed eventually.
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Old 2013-06-05, 02:22   Link #987
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IF it is true that Xbox1 has heating issues, it could be one of two things:

1. MS is just being paranoid because RROD in the past have traumatised them, so they are over-reacting to a little overheating.

or

2. MS actually has engineering issues in the team. Seriously, over-heating is something you are supposed to catch in the design phase. You are not suppose to struggle with the hardware failing in the same year it is suppose to launch.

(This reminds me of when Red Bull first sponsored Formula 1 Racing; they were making fast cars, but their vehicles ALWAYS malfunction mid-race and they lose. They only fix the problem by hiring a new manager. MS might need a new Head Designer for their console if the rumours were true.)
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Old 2013-06-05, 07:07   Link #988
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What makes you think they got the same Head Designer as the one who did XBox 360? That guy outta be flipping burgers now.
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Old 2013-06-05, 10:36   Link #989
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IF it is true that Xbox1 has heating issues, it could be one of two things:

1. MS is just being paranoid because RROD in the past have traumatised them, so they are over-reacting to a little overheating.

or

2. MS actually has engineering issues in the team. Seriously, over-heating is something you are supposed to catch in the design phase. You are not suppose to struggle with the hardware failing in the same year it is suppose to launch.
If the overheating rumor is true, it's probably going to be an engineering problem that stems from the size of the SoC, and the resultant yields. Do you remember Microsoft's touted "5 billion transistors"? About 1.8 billion of those are for its eSRAM, and it's the most likely culprit for the yield issues.

This is a problem with all CPUs, GPUs and APUs, so Microsoft's engineers will work on it non-stop until the design is finalized for manufacture. Using made up numbers, if you can get 100 dies off a single wafer, maybe 30 are good, 10 are unusable, and 60 are usable if you disable certain parts of the chip. Sony faced the same problem with the Cell processor, so they ended up having to disable one of the SPEs.

Given another 6-9 months of work, Microsoft can probably finalize the design according to initial specs with satisfactory yields. However, if they still want to launch in November - December, they'll have only one month to do so. This will probably mean a design trade off of some kind - disabled CUs, lowered clock rates, or a lot fewer Xbox Ones (that cost Microsoft a lot more to build) in the initial shipment.

Further compounding Microsoft's headaches, Sony seems to be farther along both in terms of hardware and OS (and development tools). And if they go ahead with a decrease in the Xbox One's performance, the PS4 can potentially end up with double the processing power.

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What makes you think they got the same Head Designer as the one who did XBox 360? That guy outta be flipping burgers now.
Haven't all the key people who designed the 360 left Microsoft by now? In any case, the system is too far along to change key people now. If the Xbox One ends up as a failure, the people responsible will probably be dealt with 6-12 months after launch like Kutaragi Ken was.
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Old 2013-06-05, 13:54   Link #990
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Neogaf thread on this has a new title: TRUTHFACT: MS having eSRAM yield problems on Xbox One, RUMOR: downclocking GPU

Also, there is this...




Looks like they don't wanna talk about things like the DRM, Kinect always being on, and now the eSRAM issue.

Also, they are behind with the OS, so the TV capabilities demonstration at the XBO unveil was a fake demonstration. Lol, geez...

"XBox, go home".
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Old 2013-06-05, 14:16   Link #991
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Neogaf thread on this has a new title: TRUTHFACT: MS having eSRAM yield problems on Xbox One, RUMOR: downclocking GPU
Yes because CBoaT posted in the thread and said that it's true. This is as close to a confirmation you can get without hearing it direct from MS.
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Old 2013-06-05, 14:28   Link #992
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They were saying CBoaT is very credible. Who is he?

http://www.videogamer.com/news/xbox_...osoft.html#nnn

MS says DRM for XBO has a lot of advantages. They say "Here are the reasons why: TBA". Keep digging that hole, MS.
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Old 2013-06-05, 16:14   Link #993
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Oh God I can't wait for E3

This is some 'S' ranked quality trainwreck in the works
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Old 2013-06-05, 16:29   Link #994
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Chaos, you really hate MS and the XBox, huh?

I've never been an XBox fan. I'm hoping PS4 takes the lead next gen, so if the XBox One doesn't do well, I'm more than fine with that. I'm actually delighting in how the XBO is stumbling so far. I guess there is still some fanboy in me from the PS2 gen.
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Old 2013-06-05, 16:35   Link #995
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I am actually more surprised to hear that Xbox 1 doesn't yet have a functioning OS.

Like, what? MS hasn't figured out the software for their console yet? So anyway, it meant that the entire demonstration was staged. The console you see was literally an empty box. They are having hardware overheating issues, and they haven't ironed out the OS despite deciding on Windows 8 architecture ages ago.

All this is starting to make me change my mind about MS. As in, originally I just thought they were evil, but now I actually believe they were incompetent, and that all the evil stuff was unintentional. That they were so rushed in getting everyone done on time, they gave the wrong impressions.

Maybe when MS gave all those mixed messages, it was because they didn't know what they were doing. MS isn't trying to hide anything; they are just clueless.

I am just not sure if that is considered an improvement in the state of things, or that it made it worse.
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Old 2013-06-05, 16:38   Link #996
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Chaos, you really hate MS and the XBox, huh?

I've never been an XBox fan. I'm hoping PS4 takes the lead next gen, so if the XBox One doesn't do well, I'm more than fine with that. I'm actually delighting in how the XBO is stumbling so far. I guess there is still some fanboy in me from the PS2 gen.
To be honest not really- my first console I've ever bought using my own money was the 360 And it lasted me for... 4-5 years? If you don't count the bloody red ring incidents

Only recently I've moved towards Sony products.

But Microsoft has set themselves up to be a wonderful villain given the way things are going right now I guess what I'm saying is... If they didn't do anything wrong, I wouldn't care either way, but since they have done it spectacularly wrong, I'm going to enjoy this.
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Microsoft has basically become classic Saturday Morning Cartoon villains - Mildly evil, and horribly incompetent.
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They were saying CBoaT is very credible. Who is he?
An insider who leaked a lot of different things like MS hardware, games, details, NPD numbers etc. in the past years. Almost only posts to drop truthbombs, leaks and to confirm rumours. Near flawless track record.

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Old 2013-06-05, 17:18   Link #999
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Only one I recognize is Madden. Guess I definitely am not their target audience, huh?
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You don't recognize the latest in gaming innovation- The Call of Duty dog ?!
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