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Old 2013-06-11, 00:40   Link #1241
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I buy Sony consoles to play JRPGs and Metal Gear games that don't end up on any other platform. I literally have no other reason to buy a Sony console--everything else I want ends up on Steam.
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This. This. This.

Because of today's conferences I've become a PC guy. The amount of money I would spend on a console could pay for stuff to go towards my computer to play games a hundred times better.

As a long time PC AND console gamer, no, a PC doesn't "play games a hundred times better."

Some game plays better on the PC, other games plays better on a console. Sometimes the precision of KB/M control is what I want, while other times it's just a much better experience to sit back on a couch and enjoy console gaming on the big screen in my home theater system.

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So, besides a computer what else do I need to get to fully enjoy the PC experience?
a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers?
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Old 2013-06-11, 00:46   Link #1242
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XBox One? More like XBox Done. *trollface*

XBox, go home.
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Old 2013-06-11, 00:48   Link #1243
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As a long time PC AND console gamer, no, a PC doesn't "play games a hundred times better."

Some game plays better on the PC, other games plays better on a console. Sometimes the precision of KB/M control is what I want, while other times it's just a much better experience to sit back on a couch and enjoy console gaming on the big screen in my home theater system.



a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers?
You can hook your PC up to your TV and sit on your couch too. You can even get your PS3 controller working on your PC pretty easily, even in wireless mode.
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Old 2013-06-11, 01:05   Link #1244
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You can hook your PC up to your TV and sit on your couch too. You can even get your PS3 controller working on your PC pretty easily, even in wireless mode.
My PC is nowhere near my TV, nor do I want it to be. I actually do use my PC for work, which means I'd rather keep my desk and multi-monitor setup - a couch is not very ergonomically conductive to keyboard and mouse.
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Old 2013-06-11, 01:13   Link #1245
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My PC is nowhere near my TV, nor do I want it to be. I actually do use my PC for work, which means I'd rather keep my desk and multi-monitor setup - a couch is not very ergonomically conductive to keyboard and mouse.
This is your choice. But is possible.
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Old 2013-06-11, 01:15   Link #1246
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Sony Owned Microsoft really really extremely Hard.

It will be the PS4+PC for me.
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Old 2013-06-11, 01:17   Link #1247
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This is your choice. But is possible.
Never said it wasn't, but that's besides the point, which is that there's nothing inherently "superior" about PC gaming vs. console, and certainly not "100 times better" - they are just different.
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Old 2013-06-11, 01:21   Link #1248
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Never said it wasn't, but that's besides the point, which is that there's nothing inherently "superior" about PC gaming vs. console, and certainly not "100 times better" - they are just different.
Aside from exclusives, everything you can do on a console you can do on a PC, including setting it up via TV/couch and using a controller. It's not 100 times better but it's definitely superior in most ways aside from ease of use. Although with today's PCs and Steam, it's definitely becoming less and less of a hassle.
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Old 2013-06-11, 01:24   Link #1249
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Old 2013-06-11, 01:24   Link #1250
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Aside from exclusives, everything you can do on a console you can do on a PC, including setting it up via TV/couch and using a controller. It's not 100 times better but it's definitely superior in most ways aside from ease of use. Although with today's PCs and Steam, it's definitely becoming less and less of a hassle.
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Old 2013-06-11, 01:25   Link #1251
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What cost? The xbone is five hundred bucks. I can build an HTPC that does everything the xbone does AND MORE for just a little more.
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Old 2013-06-11, 01:26   Link #1252
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*coughcostcough*
Recoup via free online and steam sales! =P
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Old 2013-06-11, 01:28   Link #1253
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a HTPC may be able to play some games, but is not remotely close to what I'd consider to be a proper gaming rig.

Seriously, a $500 system is a budget build no matter how you slice it.

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Recoup via free online and steam sales! =P
I consider that a wash with buying cheap used/bargain bin games
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Old 2013-06-11, 01:33   Link #1254
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Hey guys you know I've been thinking, what do you think would happen with Microsoft if not only did Sony's PS4 dominated them in sells(Cause we both know there's a HIGH chance that's going to happen), but the WII-U also destroy them in sells as well?

Do you think that would be enough to wound Microsofts pride enough that they would actually make changes in a flash?
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Old 2013-06-11, 01:39   Link #1255
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Hard to say, I can't remember any console in recent (or not recent) history that was as poorly received as the XBO, personally I think MS would be insane not to reassess its policies.
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Old 2013-06-11, 01:39   Link #1256
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a HTPC may be able to play some games, but is not remotely close to what I'd consider to be a proper gaming rig.
A lot of people are going to buy a pc anyway though, so for them the question is "how much extra do I need to pay to play games better than a console."

For 360/ps3, the answer is "almost nothing." By the end of a generation, anyone buying a pc can use it to play games better than a console for no extra money.

For XB1/ps4, the answer is "tons, and still may not be enough." At the beginning of a generation, the consoles are the better buy. PC components need to be much more powerful due to sloppy ports, and newly released PC components are ultra expensive. I'd definitely buy a console now unless you want to wait years.

The line is definitely being blurred though. We are seeing consoles dealing with more and more "underpowered pc problems", like increased failure rate and overheating and fps drops, and getting more "pc style" 1st person shooter games. And we are seeing pcs becoming more and more like consoles, with the xbox controller becoming a standard for pc, and console style games like Sonic Racing Transformed and Dark Souls make their way to pc.


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Hard to say, I can't remember any console in recent (or not recent) history that was as poorly received as the XBO, personally I think MS would be insane not to reassess its policies.
MS must drop the price to PS4 level at least. They must not have known the PS4 price, they can't be 100 dollars above the more powerful system.
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Old 2013-06-11, 01:42   Link #1257
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Hey guys you know I've been thinking, what do you think would happen with Microsoft if not only did Sony's PS4 dominated them in sells(Cause we both know there's a HIGH chance that's going to happen), but the WII-U also destroy them in sells as well?

Do you think that would be enough to wound Microsofts pride enough that they would actually make changes in a flash?
It'd take at probably a year for those kind of numbers to be significant enough for MS to re-evaulate their strategy. Pre-order sales seem pretty strong even with all the negative feedback so if they're planning for the long term and this is their end game for the digital landscape then I can definitely see them toughing it out. They'll probably introduce more lucrative offers down the line to get people to buy into the whole ecosystem but I don't seem them changing the fundamentals.
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Old 2013-06-11, 01:43   Link #1258
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a HTPC may be able to play some games, but is not remotely close to what I'd consider to be a proper gaming rig.

Seriously, a $500 system is a budget build no matter how you slice it.
Unless you are playing at extreme resolutions or with a multiple-monitor setup, you don't need a $2000 gaming rig to play everything out there anymore.

Besides, when it comes to the gaming industry, the money is not in the high-end system-crusher triple-A titles anymore. It's in the mobile, social and multiplayer titles that can run easily on modest hardware (mobile devices, ARM architectures, laptops, browser-based games). Triple-A games are a drain on the industry.
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Old 2013-06-11, 01:49   Link #1259
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At the beginning of a generation, the consoles are the better buy. PC components need to be much more powerful due to sloppy ports, and newly released PC components are ultra expensive.
This dont make any sense. In fact I know of many games of this new generation that will already be better on the PC since the beginning.

The mid cost GPU is safe to play any game in this generation with good performance.

And sloppy ports will be less common, due to similarity of architectures between consoles and PCs.
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Old 2013-06-11, 01:55   Link #1260
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Unless you are playing at extreme resolutions or with a multiple-monitor setup, you don't need a $2000 gaming rig to play everything out there anymore.
That depends entirely on the software. And regardless, $500 is not enough - 100 would be earmarked for the OS, leaving you with 400 to get the CPU/GPU/PSU/mobo/memory/HDD/case/controller, ie - nothing but the low end stuff.

HTPC? sure, gaming? yea... let's just say as long as you keep things "simple", which is the point - you can't build a $500 pc that can do everything a XBO/PS4 can do and more.


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Besides, when it comes to the gaming industry, the money is not in the high-end system-crusher triple-A titles anymore. It's in the mobile, social and multiplayer titles that can run easily on modest hardware (mobile devices, ARM architectures, laptops, browser-based games). Triple-A games are a drain on the industry.
That's certainly your preference, but that's all that is.

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This dont make any sense. In fact I know of many games of this new generation that will already be better on the PC since the beginning.
I don't see how you can know those for fact, when you don't have the new consoles yet In any case, it would depend on the spec of the PC in question.
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