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Old 2013-06-15, 00:35   Link #1421
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Holy shit, everyday more bad shit about XBone.
If you get banned from XBox Live, you lose the ability to play all games tied to your account.
I think that goes without saying. How can you play games if all of those games require an account that you can't access? Its really no different from the issue of losing your internet connection.
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Old 2013-06-15, 00:39   Link #1422
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Holy shit, everyday more bad shit about XBone.

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If you get banned from XBox Live, you lose the ability to play all games tied to your account.
Hey, it's $1 Billion marketing budget put to good use!

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I think that goes without saying. How can you play games if all of those games require an account that you can't access? Its really no different from the issue of losing your internet connection.
The difference is that this may include all the Xbone discs you buy as well. In comparison, if you get banned from Steam, you can still play all the games you bought.

Then again, this clause may well be illegal. Fun times.
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Old 2013-06-15, 00:49   Link #1423
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Hey, it's $1 Billion marketing budget put to good use!


The difference is that this may include all the Xbone discs you buy as well. In comparison, if you get banned from Steam, you can still play all the games you bought.

Then again, this clause may well be illegal. Fun times.
But that's the thing, ALL (as far as I know) Xbo games require 24hr validation, which means that you need to be able to connect to Live. It doesn't matter if its disc, digital, or even cassette, they all require this. So if you can't connect to Live, either because of internet issues or you've been banned from it, your discs will make for some nice coasters or maybe frisbees. You might even be able to cut them into little throwing stars and pretend that you're playing Ninja Gaiden.
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Old 2013-06-15, 00:54   Link #1424
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The point is that it's quite possible to block certain parts of an account without disabling all of its capabilities. And that Microsoft seemingly has no intention of going about it in a non-asinine way.
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Old 2013-06-15, 02:57   Link #1425
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I can see the Japanese game companies skipping Xbone altogether. They only made 360 versions of a lot of games because it had so much market share in North America.

There's NO reason for the bigger Japanese devs to skip the XboxOne. There's going to be enough XboxOne's in the NA market to make it worth their while to port all the bigger titles because unlike last generation the development costs to port cross platform between XB1, PS4, and PC are not as much of a problem.
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Old 2013-06-15, 03:16   Link #1426
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There's NO reason for the bigger Japanese devs to skip the XboxOne. There's going to be enough XboxOne's in the NA market to make it worth their while to port all the bigger titles because unlike last generation the development costs to port cross platform between XB1, PS4, and PC are not as much of a problem.
It's possible, if they currently have deal with distribution company. And considering how X-box trying to cut the middle man and allow direct download. There might be complicated process to deal with their partner
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Old 2013-06-15, 03:51   Link #1427
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Ironic that this is getting the nickname XBoned, because when people think of Microsoft now they'll think, ah, that's what happens to the people who made this that can't get laid^^, hence Micro...soft...now it all makes sense.
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Old 2013-06-15, 03:53   Link #1428
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PS4's preorder advantage is particularly notable when you consider the statistic is so far for America only. In other words, XBox's home-turf. If XBox One loses to the PS4 in America, then it's likely going to get killed just about everywhere else.
XBOX1 has absolutely ZERO chance in Japan and Korea, I can tell you right now. XBOX 360 didn't do so well in those countries iirc, and with the advantages PS4 has over the XBOX1 as it stands, that disparity is only going to grow.

I'm not planning to get a new console yet, but when I do, it's going to be PS4 unless Microsoft does something absolutely ground-breakingly colossal to win my confidence back. That possibility is looking pretty bleak at the moment.

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Ironic that this is getting the nickname XBoned, because when people think of Microsoft now they'll think, ah, that's what happens to the people who made this that can't get laid^^.
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Old 2013-06-15, 04:42   Link #1429
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Microsoft did so poorly in Japan with the first- and second-generation consoles they're probably not even going to try much with the xbone.

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I think that goes without saying. How can you play games if all of those games require an account that you can't access? Its really no different from the issue of losing your internet connection.
LOLNO.

If you get banned from Steam (usually happens from cheating) you still get to play all of your games (just not multiplayer ones with VAC enabled).
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Old 2013-06-15, 05:16   Link #1430
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LOLNO.

If you get banned from Steam (usually happens from cheating) you still get to play all of your games (just not multiplayer ones with VAC enabled).
That's VAC banning. Valve can actually ban Steam accounts altogether preventing people from playing games, though that's usually due to suspicious activity (accounts being sold/stolen, accounts registering keys taken/purchased from unauthorized sites).
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Old 2013-06-15, 08:12   Link #1431
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Except Gamestop has provided data showing that 70% of credit/money they give gamers for used games goes directly towards new games. Not used games, but new games. Without actual data showing that used games deter the purchase of new game sales, and with data showing that used games actually boost new game sales, it's entirely false to claim that "it's clear that used games eats into the sales of new games". That idea is the reason for online passes and this DRM, but that idea is not fact.
That's nice and all, but if Joe Bloe goes to gamestop and intends to buy a game and he sees COD 2014 for $60 brand new and $50 pre owned and buys the preowned one, what now?

Because not everyone actually trades in games, a lot of people just buy games, used ones at that. Your statistics are purely for people who trade in. Which market do you think is bigger? The hardcore buy new game, trade in for another new game gamer or people who just buy the cheaper used games?

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Wii U had great preorders... right now it's having the worst first year of any console since the Saturn.. and the Saturn probably did better.

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Old 2013-06-15, 09:41   Link #1432
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Wii U had great preorders... right now it's having the worst first year of any console since the Saturn.. and the Saturn probably did better.
The Wii U situation is a bit different. It was announced in 2011 and released in 2012 and so had no new rival competition for people to pick from. With the PS4 and XB1, both were announced in the same year, are coming out around the same time, have a multitude of cross platform titles, comparable hardware and are very much in direct confrontation.
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Old 2013-06-15, 16:15   Link #1433
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XBOX1 has absolutely ZERO chance in Japan and Korea, I can tell you right now. XBOX 360 didn't do so well in those countries iirc, and with the advantages PS4 has over the XBOX1 as it stands, that disparity is only going to grow.

I'm not planning to get a new console yet, but when I do, it's going to be PS4 unless Microsoft does something absolutely ground-breakingly colossal to win my confidence back. That possibility is looking pretty bleak at the moment.



That's why they need your money. How else do they pay for their prostitutes?
No matter how many they get, they still end up being the same way they've always been, Micro...soft...
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Old 2013-06-15, 18:26   Link #1434
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What do you think guys? We need to be all family members to share games lol

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Old 2013-06-15, 20:21   Link #1435
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Holy shit, everyday more bad shit about XBone.




If you get banned from XBox Live, you lose the ability to play all games tied to your account.
Apparently MS backtracked on this...
So its kinda of up in the air, but this is just more terrible Xbox one PR.
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Old 2013-06-15, 23:20   Link #1436
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Angrgy Joe

What do you think guys? We need to be all family members to share games lol
That interview was so unsettling to watch. You can literally feel the veins popping in Nelson's forehead as he realizes Joe isn't a corporate tool like Keighley.

It's funny how MS wanted to avoid bad PR by cancelling the roundtable, yet they still get it anyway. Maybe they should turn that logo into a muzzle
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Old 2013-06-15, 23:46   Link #1437
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Old 2013-06-16, 06:12   Link #1438
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Correct me if I'm wrong. If the game sharing of xbox one works like how I imagine it. So basically is a father and son are in different states, provinces or prefecture or whichever. The father has a game he just bought and would like to share it to his son. The son can then download the game and play it without ever getting near the physical disc in the father's possession.

Now my just epiphany that I don't want to acknowledge until some one points out "Yes, stupid.". Is that this indicates the father has an xbox one in their home while the son has another xbox one at his place. So what happens is that MS expects xbox one sales to be per person instead of per household?

If you don't have the xbox one at your house, why bother buying a new game?

Though I realize this logic is probably mostly definitely wrong. Why does it seem like a probable conclusion to me?
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Old 2013-06-16, 06:40   Link #1439
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Technically the son can play on any xbox. But yes its a way to drive more sales.
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Old 2013-06-16, 07:35   Link #1440
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It's a weird combination.

XB1, as a digital platform, means that games are tied to 'individual' accounts.

Yet from a hardware standpoint, people will buy consoles per household. Majority of sales will be per household. But there is always the segment of buyers who buy per person, depending on either geographical constraints ( living apart ) or are die-hard gamers.

This game-sharing feature exist solely because most consoles are per-household. The idea is that when a different family member log into their account, they can still play the game bought by another family member. ( who tied the purchase to his/her account )

Of course, people can always share one-account when playing.
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