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Old 2013-11-11, 22:43   Link #641
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Confirming things like whether a show is a harem or not is exactly kind of things I've gotten temp banned for. Even lightest spoilers that have anything to do future events or story direction can trip a flag for the mods. Just saying.
Case in point, here I am because someone reported spoiler discussion. It's not a huge deal since I can agree that most of the info is already in the anime and it's not hard to put it all together, but I strongly suggest people lay off the spoiler discussion before I'm forced to take stronger actions.

Keep the discussion about the anime and what has aired in it. If you have to use outside information, including the manga/novels, to discuss the anime....don't. No more hints either. Not even tagged.

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Old 2013-11-11, 22:56   Link #642
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There was spoiler? I didn't notice? :v
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Old 2013-11-11, 23:21   Link #643
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ok here a recap, about his power and romance, for what we get in anime:

vampires werewolfs and others monsters are demons (yokais)

this is a demon(youkai) city(yozakura quartet clone ftw where hime-chan and akina O.o )

vampires use their power through familiars

in oder to control their familiar their need suck blood otherwise the familiar can be activated at berserker/out of control mode or he can't simple active it

their dont need a "specific type of blood or person just blood

himeragi whas sent to him with as excuse to be his observer and make sure he can't go berserker

the truth behind was who she was sent to be his partner/queen/lover/wife/bla bla bla, this was bether explainned in manga/LN

in order to true become the fourth progenitor(have his full power) one of the steps is who he need a blood partner/queen.

the organization keep making sure who she aways will be together with him, when her weapon break their fast fixed her to not let her leave his side

their sent a cloth for her go with him to the party in ship(and also their sended her "sizes"(ofcourse on purpose for him learn about)

he have the power of control others peoples familiars by biting and drink their bloods

sucking a person blood dont create any sor of special bound or make the person magically "fall in love with him". only give control over other person familiar.

the person even dont need to be awaken to be sucked he can do this when their are uncounscious

after being sucked the person can still have acess to her power and him can have acess to her familar power

their dont need be together or even close(dont need living in same place) she can live her life without him in the same way he can do the same(maybe in order to maintain the control over the familair he need suck more times or will lose)

is very clear for now who himeragi really became the girl who koujo most "lust for", we see for him to be able to suck the other girl he needed to get excited by smelling himeragi( he is a smell fetish guy), when he see her in pants he just keep watching until her hiting him, when he started to read about her "sizes" he really get completly focused, for now his focus is allmost completly over her.

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Old 2013-11-12, 02:18   Link #644
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I really think Asagi and Kojou are super cute together. I like the earrings scene, since I find buying or making jewelry for someone really sweet.
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Old 2013-11-12, 02:36   Link #645
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I just glad the story is finally letting her in on all of this instead of continuously sidelining her. I'm looking forward to her reaction to the reveal.

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Old 2013-11-12, 18:04   Link #646
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I think the first thing she would ask why is someone attacking Kojou before asking if he a vampire.
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Old 2013-11-13, 15:09   Link #647
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I praised Himeragi's character after the first episode for not being the typical anime girl who freaks out over everything and hits the MC...

...couple episodes later, she had fully degenerated into that archetype. How sad.
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Old 2013-11-13, 15:39   Link #648
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I praised Himeragi's character after the first episode for not being the typical anime girl who freaks out over everything and hits the MC...

...couple episodes later, she had fully degenerated into that archetype. How sad.

My sentiments exactly.
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Old 2013-11-13, 19:07   Link #649
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I praised Himeragi's character after the first episode for not being the typical anime girl who freaks out over everything and hits the MC...

...couple episodes later, she had fully degenerated into that archetype. How sad.
In the first episode, she tried to kill someone because they flipped her skirt. Why are you so surprised?
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Old 2013-11-13, 19:42   Link #650
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I praised Himeragi's character after the first episode for not being the typical anime girl who freaks out over everything and hits the MC...

...couple episodes later, she had fully degenerated into that archetype. How sad.
The only times she's ever hit him was when he walked in on her changing, necking Astarte, and for reading her measurements and it was only in the last two she did it out of anger, but this is still little compared to how many times Kojou's tripped her wire.
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Old 2013-11-13, 19:54   Link #651
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The only times she's ever hit him was when he walked in on her changing, necking Astarte, and for reading her measurements and it was only in the last two she did it out of anger, but this is still little compared to how many times Kojou's tripped her wire.

Yes, because it's certainly grounds to hit someone when they walk in on you in THEIR house, when they try to save/prolong the life of a little girl, and when they read your measurements. God forbid a woman shows rational thought and composure. I can understand being a bit annoyed, but geez.

The difference between what's been happening lately and what happened with those guys in the first episode was they were actually ganging up on her, everything with Kojou has been a misunderstanding.
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Old 2013-11-13, 23:37   Link #652
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I'm willing to give Yukina some moar time to develop and see if she comes out of the "archetype"

If she doesn't, then she'll be remembered as another girl from an anime. But if she does come out of this slump, I'll hold her dear to my heart for a couple of seasons at least...

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Old 2013-11-14, 08:58   Link #653
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I praised Himeragi's character after the first episode for not being the typical anime girl who freaks out over everything and hits the MC...

...couple episodes later, she had fully degenerated into that archetype. How sad.
The problem was there nearly right from the get-go. At least, right from episode 3, I think Yukina's character is simply badly defined.

I dunno, she isn't exactly obnoxious or anything, but the author really keeps going back and forth with her pseudo quirks to the point she is a mess, character wise. Frankly, I was wondering if she was just written as a "all rounded" character in ep1, but it is actually the very same treatment that SAO Asuna got (ignoring the fact they are different in term of character): they have a specific role at first, but progressively got shafted to match a stereotype mold and plot purpose.

Whereas every other characters are pretty much one dimensional (be it Natsuki as the "loli teacher" or Asagi the "normal rival who has no chance from the very beginning"), Yukina is just... "there" to fulfill the heroine quota.

And this doesn't bode too well for me when every other characters are just static tools from start to finish.
Sayaka is the prime example of that: a clingy girl showing out of nowhere to add some conflict between Kojou and Yukina. But instead of having a subtle approach regarding this, we got a sledgehammer with unecessary yandere vibes, to which actually make the plot line ridiculous despite the series takes itself very seriously: No matter how you look at it, she attacked Kojou seriously as it doesn't present your obvious "cartoonish violent antics" be it with the visuals or the BGM/SFX. It just makes the whole predicament laughable at best when you consider her position, and thus the knowledge she is supposed to have regarding Kojou.

For some reason, it really seems like the plot and the characters are just parallel to each other instead of being a full package.

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Old 2013-11-14, 09:44   Link #654
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In the first episode, she tried to kill someone because they flipped her skirt. Why are you so surprised?
Because, like Cloudedmind said, those guys were pushing it too far. I doubt she had the intent to kill them from the start, but they took things too far on their own and she replied accordingly (at least in her POV).

I'm surprised because she seemed to be level headed enough to skip over the whole "ECCHI! *SMACK*" routine that we see so often. But as episodes progress, she's turning into a machine stuck on "Senpai" and hitting Kujou over everything.

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I dunno, she isn't exactly obnoxious or anything, but the author really keeps going back and forth with her pseudo quirks to the point she is a mess, character wise.
Pretty much!
At first she seemed like a competent warrior-type who wasn't used to being around "normal" people and civilization, which served as an excuse for her odd behavior, but as episodes progressed, her "personality" was all over the place.
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Old 2013-11-15, 10:06   Link #655
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Old 2013-11-15, 15:43   Link #656
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Show is vying for the best of the season award for me. Between this and Tokyo Ravens at least.
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Old 2013-11-15, 15:56   Link #657
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Kojou sure has a lot of girls trailing behind him.
It was bound to drag along some trouble sooner or later.
This is slowly starting to look like a harem..
While they were busy dealing with their trivial stuff, real problems came along.
Guess it was time for Kojou to get serious and play the hero.
Second part of the episode was pretty exciting.
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Old 2013-11-15, 17:16   Link #658
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Overall a good episode. Somehow Kojou and yuri girl managed to bond over their different views of Yukina. Certainly a twist that Kojou is the one focusing on Yukina's personality while the girl is completely focused on Yukina's physical traits. Though maybe that's giving them too much credit. Just kind of shows how obsessive and in many respects shallow the yandere yuri is.

I think the most interesting part of the episode was with Nagisa. Serious trauma there and makes you wonder how she'd react if she found out what's happened to her brother. Also a mystery as to that presence that was moving her body. Maybe tie into how she woke up and survived her injuries? Likely something Kojou doesn't know and hopefully one of those two fills him in on that side of things. Not the best with voices but wonder if that's the same 'presence' that was commenting when Kojou got Regulus Arm under control?

Certainly seem to be leading to an unlocking of another familiar. Does seem to mean he needs different people but rather they are creating an artificial situation where he can't get to Yukina. Hopefully that doesn't become a thing too often in every arc.

And just want to say nice save by Yukina being able to stop Kojou's power from going out of control. Learn from experience .
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Old 2013-11-15, 17:43   Link #659
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Not the best with voices but wonder if that's the same 'presence' that was commenting when Kojou got Regulus Arm under control?
Spoiler for Got some info about Nagisa:
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Old 2013-11-15, 20:19   Link #660
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Spoiler for Got some info about Nagisa:
Is it alright (as in not getting anybody banned) for me to ask what happens to her later on?

EDIT: Please forget about this post, in my sleepyness I forgot there was a thread for the original light novel.

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