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View Poll Results: Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai NEXT - Episode 11 Rating
Perfect 10 25 34.25%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 21 28.77%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 21 28.77%
7 out of 10 : Good 4 5.48%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 1.37%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 1.37%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2013-03-21, 22:54   Link #41
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sigh....the anime team ruin the infirmary scenes from the light novel.....

What anime didn`t show:
1) Kodaka panic expressions when he saw Rika on the floor in Rika lab
2) Kodaka carrying Rika and rushing towards the infirmary
3) The scenes where Rika made Kodaka read out the BL was way shorter than the novel
4) The part where Rika almost demo to Kodaka the sensation of nibbling a person ears
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Old 2013-03-21, 22:54   Link #42
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Dr. Casey: Well, I don't own a gun that can kill someone from the anime world, so Kodaka is safe.

That said, Kodaka acted way tense than I expected him to be, and I can be a socially awkward person too. His fits of denial within these two episodes really showed how much of a wuss he is. Otonashi from Angel Beats would have handled things better, imo.

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What anime didn`t show:
1) Kodaka panic expressions when he saw Rika on the floor in Rika lab
2) Kodaka carrying Rika and rushing towards the infirmary
3) The scenes where Rika made Kodaka read out the BL was way shorter than the novel
4) The part where Rika almost demo to Kodaka the sensation of nibbling a person ears
Give the production staff forty minutes for the episode. Face it, the staff needs to prune the events a little.
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Old 2013-03-21, 23:01   Link #43
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I don't have any problems with anything posted in this thread (Marcus' post was funny, and it wasn't a death threat so much as a death permission slip ), but I wouldn't say that romance is a bad thing just because anime fans are completely unable to handle things they dislike with any amount of maturity. I'm reminded of the way so many people griped after the second episode of Mirai Nikki because Yuuki was left scared and whimpering in front of Eyepatch Girl. You know, completely unlike your average middle school child that wouldn't be scared shitless when attacked by a much older, much stronger, heavily-armed psychotic terrorist. If anime writers were to omit story elements to avoid igniting the wrath of online ragetards, well... the only thing they could do would be to avoid creating an anime to begin with, honestly, considering how astronomically grumpy and impossible to please much of the online anime fandom is.
being a bit serious now, is hard not hating him now, due to his "unreal" reactions, a completely "run forest run!!!!, scene, and the worst is not just who he run but what gonna happen after this, based in previews he gonna try to avoid go to club due to his "fear"(for something unexplained), of say yes or no and not was the first time, this is the second, the first was when rika talked with him in previous episode and now like what rikka predicted happened he just again "run" and now try to find "new friends" because he is scared of the old ones( surch a jerk).
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Old 2013-03-21, 23:03   Link #44
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I trembled.
I screamed without a sound coming out of my mouth.
I could feel tears in my eyes.

Kodaka, kudos to you. You have made me rage after a long time.

Now, you have my permission to die.

Please...He doesn't know how to react at that point without causing the most damage. It may not be the right thing to do but it's entirely understandable
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Old 2013-03-21, 23:13   Link #45
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Damn if Kodaka wont rape her, I will!!!

*Prays for a spinoff hentai starring rika....

A good episode signalling the end of the series
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Old 2013-03-21, 23:28   Link #46
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I don't have any problems with anything posted in this thread (Marcus' post was funny, and it wasn't a death threat so much as a death permission slip ), but I wouldn't say that romance is a bad thing just because anime fans are completely unable to handle things they dislike with any amount of maturity.
If it wasn't there in the first place when it doesn't need to be, one could avoid such asinine concerns in the first place.

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If anime writers were to omit story elements to avoid igniting the wrath of online ragetards, well... the only thing they could do would be to avoid creating an anime to begin with, honestly, considering how astronomically grumpy and impossible to please much of the online anime fandom is.
Only this confession has very little to do with the show's theme of friendship and the characters' goals of making friends. So yeah whatever story/plot relevance this has is kind of questionable at the moment.
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Old 2013-03-21, 23:29   Link #47
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Please...He doesn't know how to react at that point without causing the most damage. It may not be the right thing to do but it's entirely understandable
and you dont believe who what he does now, not gonna "cause" a good damage?(even more if him leave the club to join the concil?)? run from old friends to make new ones just because he can handle with the truth??? again if this happen in the concil he gonna run again? and again? and again? like a selfish coward??.
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Old 2013-03-21, 23:38   Link #48
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Lol. Looks like Sena might be an even bigger beyatch than Yozora, with her nonchalantly abusing her power as Chairman's daughter. I mean, I do remember her saying something to the same effect with Yozora at the beginning of S1, but this time she actually used her position to keep the club going.

And whoah, Sena throwing the gauntlet down. Hah! Take that Rika...

But yeah, Yozora quivering with fear was so frigging MOE! Repeated that part like 10x over, as that and the noise Sena made when she got swatted by Yozora were too cute for words. XD
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Old 2013-03-21, 23:45   Link #49
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Just because I can understand the reasons why Kodaka did what he did does not mean I have to agree or like what he did. For example, I can understand why you ate my pizza (hunger and thoughtlessness), but you're not going to get a very happy response from me.

Yes, Kodaka is immature and has his own issues. That does not mean that his actions are excused because of those things. His action was thoughtless and selfish. He does not want to lose what he has. He is afraid to move forward. He did not properly respond to 2 different girl's feelings, and he ran away from both, being relieved both times for running away.

Now, how will he resolve this? First, he should have a heart to heart talk with Sena and explain himself. Then, he needs to explain his reasons to the club. They are his friends afterall, so they should be able to understand. Hopefully, if the school president is as great as Yozora makes her out to be, he might be able to get some good advice from her.

Maybe then, he can move forward. With next episode's title, it is a little obvious how things will end this season.
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Old 2013-03-21, 23:57   Link #50
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If it wasn't there in the first place when it doesn't need to be, one could avoid such asinine concerns in the first place.

Only this confession has very little to do with the show's theme of friendship and the characters' goals of making friends. So yeah whatever story/plot relevance this has is kind of questionable at the moment.
Yeah, I think we have a misunderstanding here since you're arguing against things I never said anything about. The only point I meant to convey was that authors shouldn't avoid certain elements of storytelling just because they might cause some of the fanbase to become irate; whether the romance in this particular case is a good thing is a separate matter, and one that I wasn't intending to comment upon in my last post.

Though, while we're on the subject, I do disagree and have always found your stance towards romance in this series rather inexplicable. I could understand finding it jarring for a series to abruptly introduce a new story element deep into the story whenever it had always been nonexistent beforehand, but that's not the case here. Romance might not have played a role in the very first episode, but it's been a factor since very early on; I haven't watched the first season since its original Autumn 2011 airing, but I would safely bet that Sena and/or Yozora show feelings for Kodaka by the end of the second or third episode. I'm not sure what to take away from your posts other than "Stories are not allowed to evolve beyond their original premise, and they can never introduce story elements or themes unless they're present from the very, very beginning." (Not meaning to sound rude here, it's just honestly what you read like...)

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That said, Kodaka acted way tense than I expected him to be, and I can be a socially awkward person too. His fits of denial within these two episodes really showed how much of a wuss he is. Otonashi from Angel Beats would have handled things better, imo.
Otonashi was a great protagonist and I agree that he would have handled things much better, though I'm not sure it's a fair comparison - since Otonashi's a registered nurse, he must be a fair number of years older.

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being a bit serious now, is hard not hating him now, due to his "unreal" reactions, a completely "run forest run!!!!, scene, and the worst is not just who he run but what gonna happen after this, based in previews he gonna try to avoid go to club due to his "fear"(for something unexplained), of say yes or no and not was the first time, this is the second, the first was when rika talked with him in previous episode and now like what rikka predicted happened he just again "run" and now try to find "new friends" because he is scared of the old ones( surch a jerk).
Aye, I understand, and to reclarify this thread is 100% okay so far and I enjoy reading the divergent opinions about Kodaka. For my part, I completely understand Kodaka in this scene. The confession is extremely abrupt, Kodaka's in a crowded and decidedly non-intimate setting, and he's stuck between a rock and a hard place because accepting Sena's feelings would devastate Yozora, wheras rejecting them would of course devastate Sena. I can understand him shortcircuiting and going "uhhh see ya later bye," though he does need to meet with Sena privately to clear the air and mend any bruised feelings, as drakkon stated.
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Old 2013-03-22, 00:08   Link #51
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Kate would have said yes since she would have a reason to hang around him without anyone getting suspicious. (moderator has to be in the club room)
Another female in the room (with Sena-like proportions to boot), of course everyone would notice, moderator or no moderator excuse. Besides, Kate and Maria in the same room would be a constant war and detrimental for the Kobato+Maria quality time. Nope, I am sure the next LN to be release will show Kate making her moves outside the neighbors club.

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Lol. Looks like Sena might be an even bigger beyatch than Yozora, with her nonchalantly abusing her power as Chairman's daughter.
Redhead chibiko was the one trying to abuse the student council's power to close the club just to attack Sena for being (in her mind) too perfect. So retaliating with the same strategy is poetic justice if you ask me.
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Old 2013-03-22, 00:13   Link #52
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I really don't see how anyone can really hate Kodaka honestly, to me it's damn near impossible unless you are just a hateful person.
The dude obviously cares for everyone in the club, he understands that they are all friends, but dose not what that notion to destroy what they have now which is something he has not had in 10 years. Is that selfish, yes but damn near everyone in the neighbors club is selfish to some degree.
Obviously Kodaka and his little sister both have serious mental issues when it comes to getting close to people and losing a parent and being alone because your dad isn't home may be the cause of many of those problems.
But the dude isn't a bad guy, he's broken yet trying to hold on to what he has found after being labeled my most people as a delinquent/bully ect. for most of his life.
Besides as much as I love Sena (and boy do I ever) you can't just hit a guy with both a confession and marriage proposal outta left field like that. Most normal guys in high school would do the same thing too and run for the hills.
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Old 2013-03-22, 00:18   Link #53
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^ I hope that Kodaka regrets that so hard that he wished for a time machine to exist.

Oh wait, that last part already happened.
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Old 2013-03-22, 00:33   Link #54
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If Kodaka leaves the Neighbors Club and joins the Student Council with the President that Yozora obviously hates...poor Yozora. That would make it the second time that Kodaka leaves her. Yozora should just get hit by a car and lose all her memory of him. She would live...a better life.
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Old 2013-03-22, 01:08   Link #55
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Yeah, I think we have a misunderstanding here since you're arguing against things I never said anything about. The only point I meant to convey was that authors shouldn't avoid certain elements of storytelling just because they might cause some of the fanbase to become irate; whether the romance in this particular case is a good thing is a separate matter, and one that I wasn't intending to comment upon in my last post.
This is a very interesting point. What's your view about the reverse occurring, where authors bring in certain elements of storytelling specifically because they want the fanbase to become irate and thus attract even more attention to their work (ie: shipteasing)?

I suspect that this is occurring at various junctures in both Haganai and OreImo, with certain plot points being introduced due to characters that unexpected become much more popular than the respective authors originally contemplated. It's just a feeling that I get of course, no concrete evidence on my part except for a few patterns and comments that I may be reading too much into.
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Old 2013-03-22, 01:54   Link #56
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Oh man, what a good episode. So many things to talk about.

Sena has really matured lately, it's impressive. She's become less carefree/whiny and more mature and serious. Using her father's position was pretty damn ballzy. I'm glad to see she can really stand her own against Yozora and the rest of the group.

Yusa is so cute. I hope she can join the club, because she really doesn't look like she has many friend's either. It sort of feels like it's shaping up to be that way.

Glad to see another Kate appearance, regardless how short.

Now finally onto Kodaka. If anything, he's being NICE to the girls. He's sacrificing himself for the group. He's allowing them to continue to have fun in the club, because he knows once he starts a relationship with one of them, the club will come crumbling down. And it won't be pretty. He's really considerate when it comes down to it.

Looking forward to the final episode!
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Old 2013-03-22, 02:09   Link #57
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Hah how has Sena matured? How? Seems perfectly in character (as in broken) to me...
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where authors bring in certain elements of storytelling specifically because they want the fanbase to become irate and thus attract even more attention to their work
Reminds me of Kouji Seo (Kimi no Rage Machi) and Im Dal-Young (Freezing and much of his works).

EDIT: Blame the local radio. This suddenly came up, and it never felt so appropriate.

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Old 2013-03-22, 03:06   Link #59
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Finally this episode, but sad that so much funny material was left out. As for Kodaka, he is in a very tough situation to deal with. No matter what action he could have taken, it would still have affected the 'intact' convivence of the club members up to that point to some degree. At this point he was pretty much fighting against his reason to try to keep eveything as it was for however long he thought would be possible. Rika dealt the first blow but Sena inflicted the fatal one.
If I were in his shoes I would probably speak my mind out at that instance, but then it would most likely affect his relationship with Sena, but then again, fleeing could pretty much give the same results.... in other words there's no way out for Kodaka, poor man......
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Old 2013-03-22, 04:02   Link #60
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- rika rika rika <3, she 's just so awesome
- yozora on the bouncebackfirst with that statement for rika, then with that defence for the club
- sena too showing her wares on the defence.
- and Kodaka...................

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Sena just confesses for no reason even after they had agreed to ignore their engagement? This episode may seem just a crazy episode to others but to me it was really badly done.
this was because she was caught up in the heat of the moment due to yusa's meddling and her own personal defenses were partly subjugated add to that she was concentrating on the game. In fact she was surprised herself, and when she finally realized what she did, it was too late and well better to just go on with it.

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you know I think I'll say something about Kodaka after all, it seems a lot of people are attributing his actions as coming from "wanting to save the club" and "doing it for the girls" but I never see his actions as such. It's not as if maintaining the status quo by sacrificing honesty & integrity is a good base for true friendship (that's their club's goal isn'tit?). For me it's nothing more than his own personal issues and he is not protecting anyone but himself, and yeah I somehow understand how he can be like that, a bit, but not really since we haven't been shown how it came to be. Still he came across as really wussy.
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