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Old 2013-05-24, 15:24   Link #21
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Yes, we both agree on this part here. I don't know how the anime failed to send this message, though, because it was as clear as day to me. (Get it? With the Titan's head covering the sun and all after looking at the light, hehe)

So wasn't everything you wrote basically what the anime did? Mr. Smiley took a few swings at her, but she began to dodge it. It's part of our muscle reflexes. Just like how shellshocked veterans would respond to a hallucination of a grenade by ducking down rapidly during a warm, sunny day in the park. The punch still came out of nowhere because we were expecting her to be crushed by two Titans - one was bad enough, but two almost makes it impossible for you to live. And yes, she did solidify her emotions in the end.
You said in the previous post that you liked the anime version better because it showed Mikasa explicitly fighting the titan since the audience otherwise "wouldn't be sure whether she'd live or not with only 1 short blade and no 3DMG against a Titan." What i responded with was that this was never a important to begin with, hence the disagreement.

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Bro, bro, bro, I think you're reading a bit too much with all this. The anime never concretely said anything that her survival was because of her genes or her being Oriental and all. I don't get why'd you think that. They're probably just thinking, "Oh, guys, let's just add some more scenes and more special effects to stretch the time." Meanwhile, we're here nitpicking and thinking that they went through 5 hours of meditation under the waterfall to bring out a certain feeling in that scene which didn't deliver.

I don't know how it downplays her weakness. Her weakness was her emotions, but her strength was her reflexes. Eren's death may have caused her weakness, but it just shows that Eren's influence on her and on her survivability will be more than anything her temporary emotions can bring her down to. You may not look at it this way, but Eren was the reason that she's this strong. It's because of his words to her, her influence to her that made her a perfect killing machine. So no, she really was suicidal during that time, but her emotions cannot overwhelm that part inside her where Eren resides in, not matter how blind she gets.
I was obviously being sarcastic to make a point. The point i was trying to make was that both you and I felt from the anime it was in her "instinct", her very nature to live that kept her alive, when that's clearly not what Mikasa was about or what the manga wanted to show. Yes, this does downplay her weakness, make her more of a Mary Sue and an unstoppable killing machine. These are not good things. The studio didn't think things through when they tried to artificially stretch the scene and it shows. If you're here for the action, of course you're not going to care whether they inserted some anime original or not, even when it makes a difference like here or the stuff back in episode 2. But it matters to me because the recollection with Mikasa was one of my favorite parts of the manga and i don't like how they altered it so carelessly.
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Old 2013-05-24, 15:38   Link #22
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You said in the previous post that you liked the anime version better because it showed Mikasa explicitly fighting the titan since the audience otherwise "wouldn't be sure whether she'd live or not with only 1 short blade and no 3DMG against a Titan." What i responded with was that this was never a important to begin with, hence the disagreement.



I was obviously being sarcastic to make a point. The point i was trying to make was that both you and I felt from the anime it was in her "instinct", her very nature to live that kept her alive, when that's clearly not what Mikasa was about or what the manga wanted to show. Yes, this does downplay her weakness, make her more of a Mary Sue and an unstoppable killing machine. These are not good things. The studio didn't think things through when they tried to artificially stretch the scene and it shows. If you're here for the action, of course you're not going to care whether they inserted some anime original or not, even when it makes a difference like here or the stuff back in episode 2. But it matters to me because the recollection with Mikasa was one of my favorite parts of the manga and i don't like how they altered it so carelessly.
I chose to interpret it as Eren had such an influence on her that she knew in her mind subconsciously to keep on living, not so much just her "instinct."
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Old 2013-05-24, 16:06   Link #23
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I chose to interpret it as Eren had such an influence on her that she knew in her mind subconsciously to keep on living, not so much just her "instinct."
Yeah, this is probably what they were going for. But the studio did such a bad job showing it. The flashing red cells... come on, really? Made it seem like it was some sort of biological/genetic thing. Why not memories of his face? Why not memories of their time together? Remove the pomegranate and that ray of light too and the scene would have been much better.
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Old 2013-05-24, 16:17   Link #24
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It's an anime original (since I recently finished reading the manga/getting up-to-date and I didn't see it)

Also, a change I don't get why they did it:

Name change on the dead recon corps soldier that is given to his mother (the arm was the only thing left) back in the first episode - from Brown/Braun (manga) to Moses (anime)
I guess the director hate this guy?

and since he can't kill him in valv > he killed him here?
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Old 2013-05-27, 09:11   Link #25
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Spoiler for Manga comparison for episode 8:


PS: In episode 4, I noticed the Eren x Annie scene was not included into the episode. (Not sure if any of fellow shippers were upset of this or not. )

Last edited by CrowKenobi; 2013-05-27 at 10:26. Reason: Episode comparisons look at the current episode BACKWARDS, nor forwards.
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Old 2013-05-28, 18:21   Link #26
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Spoiler for Manga comparison for episode 8:


PS: In episode 4, I noticed the Eren x Annie scene was not included into the episode. (Not sure if any of fellow shippers were upset of this or not. )
Number 2 and 3 are both wrong as they both occur in the manga in chapter 9 pages 32-40.
Is it really that hard to check things before saying them? At least before accusing the production staff of altering scenes

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Old 2013-05-28, 22:03   Link #27
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