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View Poll Results: Suisei no Gargantia - Episode 9 Rating
Perfect 10 56 43.75%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 41 32.03%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 22 17.19%
7 out of 10 : Good 5 3.91%
6 out of 10 : Average 0 0%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 0.78%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 3 2.34%
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Old 2013-06-02, 15:54   Link #81
MeggieMay
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Real quick comment - if you follow the flashback video, I believe the squid girl in space, who looks like the one that Chamber squished later, had a name under her. Her last name was the same as the man who was the first person fused with the Squid Whale prototype. So I believe she was suppose to be the same person as the small girl who looked similar to Amy during that part of the flashback news video.

Thing is, the Space squid girl couldn't have been the one killed at the end IMO. Too many years between now and then, for starters, but the fact the other girl was a Space type also means they most likely couldn't be the same being. The fact she looked like her was just part of what lead Ledo to flip out. Another part was that the one from the ancient past had looked like Amy as a child and he put it all together, thus leading to what freaked him out so badly.
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Old 2013-06-02, 16:06   Link #82
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This episode answered a lot of questions.

The very first Hideauze are humans merged with the symbiotic organism, and it seems like they are sentient. That voice was talking about seizing the Continental Union's wormhole generator to expand into space and what not. However, are they still individuals or a hive-mind? Given that they are spawned in large numbers like insects, I would go with the latter...

Another thing, there could still be important stuff left in orbit, including that wormhole generator. After all, we see in the video that it was indeed blown up, but both the CU/GA and the Evolvers left the solar system, so it's either still functional, or they built another.
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Old 2013-06-02, 16:18   Link #83
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So.. seems like chamber has all the info about everything; i.e. the entire alliance database including restricted sections. Even if the wormhole generator is not there anymore, Chamber should have the technical know-how as to how to build a new one, as well as the computational capacity to do so.
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Old 2013-06-02, 16:22   Link #84
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When the footage of the wormhole generator's explosion is shown you can read "RT simulator 1.05".
Since it only appears there it is likely meant to tell us that the images we see aren't reality but what should happen according to the continental union's plans.
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Old 2013-06-02, 16:28   Link #85
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I figured the Hideauze were initially created by humans and that pretty much everything the Alliance tells its soldiers about them is a lie, but I have to admit I never considered the possibility the Hideauze could be evolved humans. That was a pretty nice twist, albeit not very original. It wasn't exactly clear who started the war but I think it was the (future) Alliance. They simply couldn't accept this evolution and resolved to exterminate them all. That's not to say the Hideauze are good guys. They were set on conquering the universe as well. Space is pretty damn huge, you'd think they could have just parted ways, but their hatred of each other is so great it won't allow it. Peace will never be achieved in space until one side is wiped out. Ledo is lucky to have been able to get out of there.

I'm not expecting the show to get any darker than this. This was the peak, imo. No Alliance, no Hideauze, no wormhole (why would he even want to go back now that he knows the truth?). From now on, the story will deal with Ledo coming to terms with the fact his whole life is a lie and focus on his attempt to create a peaceful life for himself on Gargantia. First, he might have to make peace with the Whalesquids, however. It's possible a war might start if he left any survivors in that nest.
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Old 2013-06-02, 16:32   Link #86
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Well I just watched the episode (BTW thanks for spoiling guys. )
Did you open the episode thread before watching the episode and expected not to get spoiled? This is the thread for discussing the contents of episode 9. Reading it before watching the episode is not recommended.
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Old 2013-06-02, 16:34   Link #87
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With all this transhumanism goin' on, I wonder if there are any people like this guy in the fleets or Galactic Alliance today.

(And now you'll see him in your dreams tonight. You're welcome.)
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Old 2013-06-02, 16:58   Link #88
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Damn I was expecting the Hideauze to be monsters created by humans, but to think they "were" humans, damn Gen, it took you a while but you've done it again.
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Old 2013-06-02, 17:09   Link #89
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Pinion's brother still there
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Old 2013-06-02, 17:15   Link #90
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Wow that was a damn good episode. When Chamber said it's classified information, I'm like 'ohhhh shittt'

It's nice to see Ledo using military protocol to control Chamber and override its suggestions.

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So.. seems like chamber has all the info about everything; i.e. the entire alliance database including restricted sections. Even if the wormhole generator is not there anymore, Chamber should have the technical know-how as to how to build a new one, as well as the computational capacity to do so.
It makes sense. Our modern tech can store so much in non-volatile memory, GA's tech is probably good enough to store their entire database in every machine. But I don't think Ledo's military commands are going go get him access into Chamber's database that contains all sorts of possible non-military information.
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Old 2013-06-02, 17:15   Link #91
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I said "Holy Shit" out loud.
Pretty much this. This is my favorite episode of the season, so far, right after MJP's episode 7.

Anyhow,

Spoiler for It's a new episode of a currently airing series:
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Old 2013-06-02, 17:17   Link #92
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Amy look alike spotted in the recorded video
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Old 2013-06-02, 17:19   Link #93
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Coordinators vs Humans?
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Old 2013-06-02, 17:21   Link #94
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Did you open the episode thread before watching the episode and expected not to get spoiled? This is the thread for discussing the contents of episode 9. Reading it before watching the episode is not recommended.
This is how I see it, too. This is the benefit of having episode threads. Spoilers are a problem in normal threads that cover everything, but when we have single-episode threads, we don't need spoiler tags for things that happen in the episode.

The only problem would be having a place to speculate about the episode before it airs, but that can be done in the previous episode's thread.
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Old 2013-06-02, 17:21   Link #95
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This was definitely one of my favorite episodes of this series. Even with some of the implications made earlier, I still found the big reveal a bit of a surprise!
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Old 2013-06-02, 17:25   Link #96
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That was a great twist, I was like WTF!! and then Chamber killed the "moe" hideauze...
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Old 2013-06-02, 17:39   Link #97
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Well this sums up my feelings on the episode: HOLY CRAP DAT PLOT TWIST!

I'm actually kind of surprised I didn't see it coming since it's definently the kind of thing Urobuchi would pull. The whole entire war the Galactic Alliance has going on is a glorified sham, and the Hideauze are human. This certainly raises the question of what's going to happen to Ledo from this point on since he was pretty clearly disturbed by the revelation but it also raises a big question about the Hideauze: How sentient are they, and are the Evolvers who created them still pulling the strings somewhere in space?

I'm really curious to see where this is all gonna go now, though it makes it a bit more disappointing that this is still only 12 episodes. Hopefully things start to speed up a bit soon.
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Old 2013-06-02, 17:40   Link #98
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Did you open the episode thread before watching the episode and expected not to get spoiled?
I expected the first page's content to have spoiler tags.
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Old 2013-06-02, 17:41   Link #99
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Now it's all a matter of time if whether the time travel theories abounding around the net are true or not.
Seriously, why?
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Old 2013-06-02, 17:50   Link #100
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Ledo baby killer!
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