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View Poll Results: Kami nomi/TWGOK: Goddesses - Episode 1 Rating
Perfect 10 12 23.53%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 12 23.53%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 14 27.45%
7 out of 10 : Good 6 11.76%
6 out of 10 : Average 3 5.88%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 2 3.92%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 1.96%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 1.96%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2013-07-10, 06:31   Link #81
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Well I personally don't give a damn about Tenri, she is of no interest to me. However, sadly she is a key character to the arc.

And so are some of the characters who were skipped.

One of the skipped characters is important and you won't understand her much now without knowing her backstory properly -_-

Seriously, they better make OVAs at least for those key charas.
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Old 2013-07-10, 08:29   Link #82
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This is going to be one of the most irritating myths I think that's going to be bandied around TGWOK discussions the whole season.

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That was simply my assumption based on the first two seasons and what was shown in this episode which didn't seem all that different from what we've seen in the past. Thanks for correcting me.

If they had infinite money to animate everything, then sure, I wouldn't have minded watching those arcs. However, they don't. If you had to choose, what would you rather get? More conquests or this arc? This is what it comes down to. Unfortunately, we can't have both. So I'm still happy they skipped all this to give us the popular and praised Goddess arc. This might finally give me the push I needed to start reading the manga, and if other anime viewers are like me, then I think it's a smart move. At the very least, it's one that makes sense.

I understand why manga readers are upset so much content was cut but thanks to this decision the anime might get more popular and that possibly means more animated TWGOK in the future. They had to try something, and they did. We'll see if it works.
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Old 2013-07-10, 09:18   Link #83
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This episode remind me of Confession = Death-flag ....
Actually, it was Cockblock = Death Flag. Cause Apollo was the one ruined the beautiful moment, and ran into an isolated zone that would likely be a death trap.
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Old 2013-07-10, 09:30   Link #84
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I'm a manga reader and I'm glad they skipped the conquests to the goddess arc directly. I found the later conquest arcs quite repetitive myself.
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Old 2013-07-10, 09:55   Link #85
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I understand why manga readers are upset so much content was cut but thanks to this decision the anime might get more popular and that possibly means more animated TWGOK in the future. They had to try something, and they did. We'll see if it works.
Not all the manga readers are upset, only the dumb ones. The producers made it clear ages ago that they were going to skip forward, and exactly why. Of course, the producers were largely at fault in the first place for slowing the pace too much in the first two seasons, but given that situation this was the best option.

I enjoyed everything about the episode, the only thing that's annoyed me are the idiots throwing "but they skipped this arc!" tantrums, when they knew perfectly well this was happening. It makes me want to smack some sense into them.
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Old 2013-07-10, 10:51   Link #86
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As one of about 5 people actually commenting on the just completed 4th season, I laughed.

And I doubt anyone else got the joke.
That's because no one watches Hayate anymore (and I don't get the joke either)

Wow, that was some major fast-fowarding along with some convenient info dump. Sure, those characters may be considered minor captures, but it still breaks the flow somehow and drops the suspense on the possible goddesses. And it looks to me they are going to rush the whole arc and put it in one cour. Well at least Tenri's capture got covered in an OVA. All in all, the tension build-up was pretty good though. As expected of the start of the Goddess arc. This will really be one heck of a roller-coaster ride unseen before in TWGOK.
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Old 2013-07-10, 13:22   Link #87
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Skipped or not I want to get my good helping of Yui! That is the reason I give the series another chance.
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Old 2013-07-11, 00:23   Link #88
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Old 2013-07-11, 02:13   Link #89
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Just watched ep.1
Ok this is probably a 10/10 for this episode.
I like TWGOK as an anime series because the story is great, seems this new season did a great job of making me watch this weekly.

I don't read the manga, but the flashbacks for me are done well enough for me to know that Keima was capturing evil souls after the ova's with that I know some of the manga readers here are disappointed, but the anime needs to differ a bit, guessing later episode will explain more via flashback.
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Old 2013-07-11, 11:46   Link #90
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That was simply my assumption based on the first two seasons and what was shown in this episode which didn't seem all that different from what we've seen in the past. Thanks for correcting me.
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The main thing that irritates me is just that many anime only viewers are presuming that all of the arcs skipped were either/both
a) Plot irrelevant
b) Generic cookie cutters of the previous materials.

I am not saying that there should have been a season covering those materials. All I am saying is that the skipped content isn't necessarily all generic, plotless or irrelevant as most anime only viewers seem to think. Some of the arcs were guilty of that, but others most definitely weren't.

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Old 2013-07-11, 17:31   Link #91
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The main thing that irritates me is just that many anime only viewers are presuming that all of the arcs skipped were either/both
a) Plot irrelevant
b) Generic cookie cutters of the previous materials.

I am not saying that there should have been a season covering those materials. All I am saying is that the skipped content isn't necessarily all generic, plotless or irrelevant as most anime only viewers seem to think. Some of the arcs were guilty of that, but others most definitely weren't.
I'm sure that the missing arcs were great and had great significance. However, for anime viewers to currently enjoy this adaptation, they HAVE TO ASSUME that the skipped arcs were more of the same. In addition, we cannot anguish over what we don't know. What we see is what is presented to us. Also, for the adaptation to be successful, the staff will need to put in relevant flashbacks and information, which we will find out as the series develop.

We can only judge the series based on what is presented, not what is missing. For all the average anime-only viewers know, those flashbacks happened the same way as the author intended, as in short moment flashbacks that indicated that Keima's adventures continued with many girls up to this point.

As for what is presented so far, I thought it was great. The flashbacks had its points, the intensity was there, and I did not feel lost at any point. It was an excellent first episode.
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Old 2013-07-12, 10:15   Link #92
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The main thing that irritates me is just that many anime only viewers are presuming that all of the arcs skipped were either/both
a) Plot irrelevant
b) Generic cookie cutters of the previous materials.
When people already had two full season of Keima chasing girls, it's quite reasonable for them to think the other arcs are more of the same. Especially with how the Goddess Arc begins in this episode with such a bombshell which suddenly exploded the series into highly plot driven mode which was never seen in the previous seasons, you cannot blame anime viewers to think the skipped material are less important and more of the same as the previous two seasons.

I'm actually more irritated that manga viewers are insisting that plot information is omitted and that anime only viewers will be completely lost, which is not really the case either.
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Old 2013-07-12, 12:24   Link #93
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I don't mind them skipping some stuff as much. At least they explained a bit about the important girls that they skipped.. Tsukiyo, Yui, and Akari.
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Old 2013-07-12, 12:57   Link #94
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When people already had two full season of Keima chasing girls, it's quite reasonable for them to think the other arcs are more of the same. Especially with how the Goddess Arc begins in this episode with such a bombshell which suddenly exploded the series into highly plot driven mode which was never seen in the previous seasons, you cannot blame anime viewers to think the skipped material are less important and more of the same as the previous two seasons.
It was quite a bombshell for manga readers too. However, in this case, the bombshell didn't come out of nowhere. I don't recall anyone claiming this was an ass-pull. Genre shifts rarely happen out of nowhere - there's always a single defining moment where the genre decisively shifts (in this case, it's Kanon getting stabbed), but many genre shifts have a build up.

My original post was not intended to complain about the skip, but the assumption that the skip was done not because of financial concerns, but because the entirety of the material skipped was irrelevant, or generic.


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I'm actually more irritated that manga viewers are insisting that plot information is omitted and that anime only viewers will be completely lost, which is not really the case either.
They do have the cause to make the claim, but the current consensus seems to be that the more critical holes can be filled, if done intelligently.

Oddly enough, in previous seasons (especially the first), the biggest complain was that the pacing was atrocious, and an absurd amount of time was spent on the early, more formulaic arcs.

While most readers would not dispute that the goddess arc was the epitome of TGWOK, have you noticed that most manga readers complaining usually single out a particular girl who was skipped? I'd imagine it's because a large number of the "second best" arc picks fall within the skipped material.

Here's a thought: had the first episode taken the Rozen Maiden summary approach of devoting a whole episode to recollection, I think the complaints would have been much more muted.
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Old 2013-07-13, 09:16   Link #95
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It was quite a bombshell for manga readers too. However, in this case, the bombshell didn't come out of nowhere. I don't recall anyone claiming this was an ass-pull. Genre shifts rarely happen out of nowhere - there's always a single defining moment where the genre decisively shifts (in this case, it's Kanon getting stabbed), but many genre shifts have a build up.
The goddess arc was pretty well sealed the moment that what's-her-name and her companion went after Tenri. It wasn't sealed by name, as in it wasn't exactly obvious what the escalation of the plot would be, but it was far from surprising.
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We do have a thread for manga comparison, you know. Although you keep posting the same thing about how unique and how important those skipped captures are despite the presence of counter-arguments. :\
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They do have the cause to make the claim, but the current consensus seems to be that the more critical holes can be filled, if done intelligently.
Pretty much. Regardless of what anyone may think there are two specific arcs that contained information and they're girls who are in this season and you've already seen flashbacks for. It should go without saying that they're kind of important. The majority of the important details in the skipped material (except for Tsukiyo and Yui) was just standard exposition and can easily be covered with a quick conversation flashback.

Apparently this is debatable though.
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Old 2013-07-13, 11:50   Link #96
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A week later some people just noticed this.
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Old 2013-07-13, 11:52   Link #97
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A week later some people just noticed this.
wat r we looking at.
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Old 2013-07-13, 11:58   Link #98
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wat r we looking at.
keima apparently has 3 hands in that pic
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Old 2013-07-13, 13:21   Link #99
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The first episode was good, it felt a little rushed but that's fine, thye skipped a lot of arcs however that is something that they announced long ago so i actually don't feel mad or anything, i just want to see Ayumi again *-*...
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Old 2013-07-13, 14:36   Link #100
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keima apparently has 3 hands in that pic
Or he was on god mode .
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