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Old 2013-07-13, 05:44   Link #21
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Can we rule out suicide?
Pretty much.

The burned piece of fabric and Yasuhiro's Glass Ball at the Trash are clear indications that someone tried to get rid of evidence.

Besides, if we regard this as suicide you gotta ask yourself this:
Why the numbers?
Why the fracture?
Why the smashed door?

Of course it can be all Maizono's doing but it's far too much effort for suicide without an actual reason.


We also saw Maizono's CD.
I don't see why she should commit suicide when her friends/group are out there with gods knows what happened.
Like I said in my theory, it makes far more sense that she would try to graduate herself to help them.
That's why I stick with my own thought, she tried to kill someone trying to frame Naegi but was killed herself and due to Maizono's Action, Naegi still took the blame.
Doorplates are evidence for that cause it's impossible that it was the Killer of Maizono who switched them out.
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Old 2013-07-13, 05:59   Link #22
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Pretty much.

The burned piece of fabric and Yasuhiro's Glass Ball at the Trash are clear indications that someone tried to get rid of evidence.

Besides, if we regard this as suicide you gotta ask yourself this:
Why the numbers?
Why the fracture?
Why the smashed door?

Of course it can be all Maizono's doing but it's far too much effort for suicide without an actual reason.


We also saw Maizono's CD.
I don't see why she should commit suicide when her friends/group are out there with gods knows what happened.
Like I said in my theory, it makes far more sense that she would try to graduate herself to help them.
That's why I stick with my own thought, she tried to kill someone trying to frame Naegi but was killed herself and due to Maizono's Action, Naegi still took the blame.
Doorplates are evidence for that cause it's impossible that it was the Killer of Maizono who switched them out.
Nice guess
Its nit explained at all in anime but
Spoiler for explanation about garbage room:
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Old 2013-07-13, 06:31   Link #23
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Nice guess
Its nit explained at all in anime but
Spoiler for explanation about garbage room:
Spoiler for To Hamazura:
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Old 2013-07-13, 07:40   Link #24
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This is just speculation for me...if someone's already mentioned this my apologies.

Spoiler for speculation:
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Old 2013-07-13, 07:59   Link #25
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This is just speculation for me...if someone's already mentioned this my apologies.

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Spoiler for Numbers:

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Old 2013-07-13, 08:00   Link #26
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This one does seem to be quite simple.
Spoiler:

Anyway, I'm unsurprised but still angry that the first kill was a character I liked. Kill Macho (wo)Man, or Richie Rich, or Ms. Trap, or even Humpty Dumpty the doujin writer, but leave that one alone! Oh well, what's done is done and I suppose it was kind of obvious. Hope the next is a more annoying character, and seriously hope it's not so simple.
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Old 2013-07-13, 08:02   Link #27
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^seems to be the most likely culprit consider the possible skills required to carry out this murder
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Old 2013-07-13, 08:52   Link #28
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Spoiler for Numbers Meaning.:
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Old 2013-07-13, 12:38   Link #29
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Speculations from the anime thread have been displaced.

Just in case: -no- game readers are allowed to take part of the speculation, -unless- they only clarify things that the anime has failed to disclose at the appropriate timing.
Any disruptive behaviour close to spoiler or hint is prohibited.
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Old 2013-07-13, 14:03   Link #30
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I think I might actually enjoy watching this thread, provided people adhere to the rules.
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Old 2013-07-13, 14:23   Link #31
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Can "professional despair student" give the complete version of clue/investigation to this thread just like what mod did in ep.2?
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Old 2013-07-13, 14:27   Link #32
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Can "professional despair student" give the complete version of clue/investigation to this thread just like what mod did in ep.2?
It depends because this is for people who haven't played the game to share their personal thoughts without so much as spoiling themselves. Experience gamers can talk about things that are "current" but not anything beyond that.
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Old 2013-07-13, 14:50   Link #33
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I think this mystery is pretty straightforward as far as the culprit goes, but I'm still not understanding why they would switch the plates. At this point in time, no one knew they -had- to commit the perfect crime, so I'm sure they would have thought it was enough to just stab and leave, hence why the plate switching is confusing. I don't see what there is to gain.
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Old 2013-07-13, 15:03   Link #34
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Regardless if nothing were to gain by the plate switching it did, however, served its purpose by pointing the shift of the blame to Makoto, the prime suspect. It's to be expected since he was the last one to see her alive (minus the killer) and the first to see her dead. All the more reason for the culprit to push the blame on to someone.

The rules did say that if someone were to commit murder, then do it in a way that no one can trace or suspect you of such. However it did not say that a trial system would be put in place after said incident has occurred, hench the change of the situation that's taking place now.
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Old 2013-07-13, 15:13   Link #35
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I think this mystery is pretty straightforward as far as the culprit goes, but I'm still not understanding why they would switch the plates. At this point in time, no one knew they -had- to commit the perfect crime, so I'm sure they would have thought it was enough to just stab and leave, hence why the plate switching is confusing. I don't see what there is to gain.
Just my two cents but:
Spoiler for Tuturuu-:
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Old 2013-07-13, 15:25   Link #36
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It was a ghost, a ghost killed her

So many people are giving their guesses on what happened, i'm not too good with that kind of stuff so i'll just sit back and wait
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Old 2013-07-13, 16:00   Link #37
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It was a ghost, a ghost killed her
Maizono was found in the Bathroom!?
It's the Shitter Ghost!!It all makes sense now!
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Old 2013-07-13, 16:01   Link #38
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The rules did say that if someone were to commit murder, then do it in a way that no one can trace or suspect you of such.
Is that right? Maybe I'm just missing it, but in the first episode, as far as I can tell, Monokuma said that all you have to do is kill someone. There was no other rule, so if all you had to do was kill someone, I don't see why you would want to try and shift the blame. Again, I might be totally forgetting something.

But something along the lines of Kiltias' theory sounds about right to me!
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Old 2013-07-13, 16:03   Link #39
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Is that right? Maybe I'm just missing it, but in the first episode, as far as I can tell, Monokuma said that all you have to do is kill someone. There was no other rule, so if all you had to do was kill someone, I don't see why you would want to try and shift the blame. Again, I might be totally forgetting something.

But something along the lines of Kiltias' theory sounds about right to me!
It was explained in Episode 2 after people discovered Sayaka's corpse.
When Makoto woke up, Monokuma showed up and explained that they will proceed with a class trial. If the survivors find out the culprit, the latter will be executed. If they fail to do so, everyone but the culprit will be executed.
This "look for the culprit" game fed up Junko, which lead to her tragic death.

Monokuma took everyone offguard with this supplemented rules, since they only knew before that point that "killing someone without being busted" was the only condition.
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Old 2013-07-13, 16:21   Link #40
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^But at the very least, the rule that you have to do it without getting busted was already written in the ElectroiD for all to see.
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