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Old 2013-09-13, 21:42   Link #41
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So having 12 under his control isn't something special if the other had that many.

The one who rules over western Europe reminds me of Solomon because of the number of his controlled beast.
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Old 2013-09-13, 22:28   Link #42
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So having 12 under his control isn't something special if the other had that many.

The one who rules over western Europe reminds me of Solomon because of the number of his controlled beast.
12 isn't anything special, but the quality of the 12 beasts are really strong. Much stronger than anything controlled by Pure Blood, Elder, or lower.

As for how it compares to the other Primogenitors, we need to see a more. In the brief exchange, the beasts of the two primogenitors were on par with each other. Certain beasts naturally counter others by affinity.
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Old 2013-09-14, 01:07   Link #43
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12 isn't anything special, but the quality of the 12 beasts are really strong. Much stronger than anything controlled by Pure Blood, Elder, or lower.

As for how it compares to the other Primogenitors, we need to see a more. In the brief exchange, the beasts of the two primogenitors were on par with each other. Certain beasts naturally counter others by affinity.
I can guess that the beasts are quite... potent since the first unleashing just razed a block or two when he first faced that apostle.

still... I would like it to happen when Dracula appears and acknowledges our MC as a very VERY powerful vampire enough for him to be proud of.

also, I wonder what would happen if his classmates discover he is a vampire... aside from the initial disdain of the bloodsucker in their midst.
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Old 2013-09-14, 07:07   Link #44
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^will there be disdain? it looks like vampire is normal on the city that they are living. If not vampire then phantasmal beast. A vampire and a werewolf where hitting on a junior high like its normal.

Disdain? probably not but wary or scared can be one.

No on still answers my question that where Asagi found out the truth >_>
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Old 2013-09-14, 07:53   Link #45
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^will there be disdain? it looks like vampire is normal on the city that they are living. If not vampire then phantasmal beast. A vampire and a werewolf where hitting on a junior high like its normal.

Disdain? probably not but wary or scared can be one.

No on still answers my question that where Asagi found out the truth >_>
I mean that they would be all prissy about him because he's a powerful vampire that COULD kill them outright.

and as for Asagi, I think she knew in V1 but I think its a bit later that she has no qualms about him necking her.
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Old 2013-09-14, 08:34   Link #46
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I don't know where the part in the novel end in vol 1 but in the manga where the raws are up to chapter 13. I still don't think she knew. Which is why I ask if she find out in the future.
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Old 2013-09-14, 11:31   Link #47
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12 isn't anything special, but the quality of the 12 beasts are really strong. Much stronger than anything controlled by Pure Blood, Elder, or lower.

As for how it compares to the other Primogenitors, we need to see a more. In the brief exchange, the beasts of the two primogenitors were on par with each other. Certain beasts naturally counter others by affinity.
Then how was it that Akatsuki's Thunder Lion was repelled by a mere homonculus in the manga chapters I've seen so far? I know that the girl had absorbed the life force of many vampires, but I expected more from a primogenitor. Were there other circumstances?
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Old 2013-09-14, 13:12   Link #48
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^That's because of the magic nullifying field that the lotharian stole/copy from Yukino? or the girl's spear. The ling king group is the only group in the world that success in their project to nullify magic. Their is an abbreviation for it. 3 letters but I can't read right now so I can't check.

Plus I think Akatsuki is still doesn't have full control over his beast. They are just trying to help him but that's all.
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Old 2013-09-14, 13:18   Link #49
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^That's because of the magic nullifying field that the lotharian stole/copy from Yukino? or the girl's spear. The ling king group is the only group in the world that success in their project to nullify magic. Their is an abbreviation for it. 3 letters but I can't read right now so I can't check.

Plus I think Akatsuki is still doesn't have full control over his beast. They are just trying to help him but that's all.
You mean that Divine Oscillation Equation? I didn't think it could actually nullify a kenjuu from a primogenitor. Does this mean that other primogenitors would have faced the same problem?

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Old 2013-09-14, 13:23   Link #50
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no, I don't think it manage to nullify but it manage to bounce it? (it get blown up in the ceiling) Blame on Akatsuki's lame control . But the beast had their own consciousness because the lion in the end help him and her in the fight.

Its different in campione in that regards >_>
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Old 2013-09-15, 11:24   Link #51
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well IMO, his beasts are still holding him in contempt and like "just because you became the 4th primo doesn't mean we do squat for you" sort of bit thats probably why he's still nerfed atm.
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Old 2013-09-15, 18:18   Link #52
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well IMO, his beasts are still holding him in contempt and like "just because you became the 4th primo doesn't mean we do squat for you" sort of bit thats probably why he's still nerfed atm.
That a confirmed fact?
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Old 2013-09-16, 00:18   Link #53
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That a confirmed fact?
that's the impression you can get

Specially from the proud thunder lion though it looks like the lion likes Yukina and even lend its strength on her.

If you ask me. The Kenju of Akatsuki looks like they are totally dependent on themselves which is why its not surprising if they can think for themselves and act selfish, like not obeying him at all.
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Old 2013-09-17, 22:38   Link #54
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Then how was it that Akatsuki's Thunder Lion was repelled by a mere homonculus in the manga chapters I've seen so far? I know that the girl had absorbed the life force of many vampires, but I expected more from a primogenitor. Were there other circumstances?
Like other stated, the beasts have a mind of their own. There was a time in this time frame that the beasts were in human bodies and the MC literally bribed one of them with unlimited deserts.

The MC most certainty did not master his beast yet and certain beasts are weak against certain abilities. That's the reason you have 12 beasts, so that you can counter any situation you find yourself in.

From what I've seen so far, Dimi (representative of the Forgotten King) has not yet had any trouble with any opponent and he only has 9 beasts (I think all snakes). He has mostly steamrolled all his opponents and his beasts are of a lower caliber than the MC's.
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Old 2013-09-18, 04:05   Link #55
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Dimi is the enemy in the second volume? the one who appears in the boat in the end of chapter 13 and is the one labeled as Duke of Ardeal? what does he plan in vol 2?
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Old 2013-09-18, 10:44   Link #56
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Dimi is the enemy in the second volume? the one who appears in the boat in the end of chapter 13 and is the one labeled as Duke of Ardeal? what does he plan in vol 2?
From what I remember...

Spoiler for V2:
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Old 2013-09-18, 11:57   Link #57
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WHAT!!!!! his a guy right!? WTF!!!
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Old 2013-09-18, 12:31   Link #58
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WHAT!!!!! his a guy right!? WTF!!!
Yes, Dimi is the Duke of Ardeal. Dimi is just short hand for whatever his full European name translates as.

Yeah, he's a guy, but he has special tastes.
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Old 2013-09-18, 13:16   Link #59
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UGh..... what the hell >_> I prefer a hot onee-san chasing you down than a guy I feel despair for Akatsuki.
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Old 2013-09-18, 13:28   Link #60
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Now, that hot Onee-san after him...

Spoiler for V2:



P.S.: Thank you for just the right level of freak-out over the BL teasing.
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