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View Poll Results: Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA - Episode 9 Rating
Perfect 10 1 6.25%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 6 37.50%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 6 37.50%
7 out of 10 : Good 3 18.75%
6 out of 10 : Average 0 0%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2013-09-06, 20:18   Link #21
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Well, this was an excellent episode, and a great penultimate episode as it done a great job of setting up the big finale. Best episode since Episode 6, imo.

I liked how the episode went back and forth between Illya's heart-to-heart with her mom, and Miyu fighting Berserker. It kept the action seeming fresh while it also added greater weight to Iri's words as you get immediate validation of what she's saying through watching the action scenes.

That being said, Miyu's fight with Berserker was quite courageous, impressive, and valiant.

At the same time, Illya's rushing and flying off to the rescue, with a dramatic last second rescue, was like vintage Superman. Great, great stuff.

I definitely look forward to the finale.
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Old 2013-09-06, 22:34   Link #22
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I don't even think 5K projected BD sales are enough for it to receive a second season, judging by how they are deliberately axing out every last bit of foreshadowing.

They'd need a good ret-con recap episode at the start of 2-wei to have 2-wei's development make sense, since Illya's 2wei's character development arc stretches all the way back to the material that this anime adaptation is very deliberately skipping.
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Old 2013-09-06, 22:39   Link #23
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I don't even think 5K projected BD sales are enough for it to receive a second season, judging by how they are deliberately axing out every last bit of foreshadowing.
Pretty sure they'd have had to have this stuff decided long before projections would be in.
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Old 2013-09-07, 00:26   Link #24
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I'm sure if the sales are fine they can figure out a way to make the second season tie in. Maybe a bit roughly, but they could manage.

Anyways will say it was nice to see Miyu express her thoughts during that fight and use the Saber card to just go right at Berserker. Just stabbing right through him in that first charge and going right for the Excalibur blast .
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Old 2013-09-07, 11:16   Link #25
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May be I've been spoiled by excellent adaptations these two seasons but the last two episodes are a let down.

Fate Kalied Liner Prima Illya was short but it had a background plot that would be addressed in the sequels.

For one thing Sella knew Illya almost got killed twice given her lock broke twice.

In this episode Iris should have hinted to Illya she should not fear her own power.

In the manga Miyu did not tell Illya they almost got killed because of her. Illya was scared that she is not normal. Something within her unlocked that she is afraid that she can't control it that she would harm others.

Really writers why would you change the underlining dilemma of the plot? To make Miyu look a better character? Miyu is already an excellent character she didn't need these changes in plot. No wonder they spoiled a Zwei scene.
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Old 2013-09-07, 19:43   Link #26
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If Ilya makes 7 copies of swords, Nasufags will not forgive her for daring to project 7 great weapons.
Oh, well then they have nothing to worry about, I'm sure. Even in the manga Illya didn't make 7 copies of swords.
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Old 2013-09-07, 23:24   Link #27
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Mama Iri! (Did she stop by Egypt or something?)

Anyway, a really good penultimate episode, that was one intense battle with Berserker. Liked the new ending theme and Choucho's insert song too.

Can't believe this has only 10 episodes. Wish they'd hurry up and get on with Zwei already.
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Old 2013-09-08, 04:04   Link #28
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I'm getting kind of fed up with Mary Sue being the best at everything tbh. Even randomly being able to use Install and even freaking Excalibur. Even Rin had failings.
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Old 2013-09-08, 06:38   Link #29
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Even randomly being able to use Install and even freaking Excalibur.
But that how Class Cards are really used.
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Old 2013-09-08, 06:58   Link #30
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I know that's how they're really used, but that doesn't explain little miss perfect suddenly pulling the ability to actually do it out of her ass and using the world's #1 mana drainer like it was nothing. Illya apparently has some hidden robot side that knows how to do it. What's little miss perfect's excuse? Seeing it once?
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Old 2013-09-08, 07:07   Link #31
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I'm getting kind of fed up with Mary Sue being the best at everything tbh. Even randomly being able to use Install and even freaking Excalibur. Even Rin had failings.
Hey, at least she can't fly!

Speaking personally, I didn't mind that she was able to use Install. However, what I did mind a bit is Miyu maintaining complete control over herself when she does that, whereas Illya ended up blanking out and getting completely taken over by the Archer card when Illya did it. I don't see any good reason for the striking difference here. And its a difference that, yeah, raises thoughts of "Miyu Sue" for me.
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Old 2013-09-08, 07:33   Link #32
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Illya blanked out before she used the Archer card. The loss of memory was not related to the card.

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I know that's how they're really used, but that doesn't explain little miss perfect suddenly pulling the ability to actually do it out of her ass and using the world's #1 mana drainer like it was nothing. Illya apparently has some hidden robot side that knows how to do it. What's little miss perfect's excuse? Seeing it once?
Do you want us to spoil everything for you? You're practically begging for it with comments like that, you know.
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Old 2013-09-08, 09:12   Link #33
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Hey, at least she can't fly!

Speaking personally, I didn't mind that she was able to use Install. However, what I did mind a bit is Miyu maintaining complete control over herself when she does that, whereas Illya ended up blanking out and getting completely taken over by the Archer card when Illya did it. I don't see any good reason for the striking difference here. And its a difference that, yeah, raises thoughts of "Miyu Sue" for me.
I really can't throw that on Miyu right now. I mean Illya's situation does seem rather unique. She was like that before she used install and continued on in the same manner after. So not really surprising that Miyu was able to remain in the same mindset. Far as they've told us the install just gives them the powers and skills, it doesn't override their minds or anything.

And the result was fairly similar in completely depleting their mana after using such a big attack. The only difference is that with Sapphire around it's possible to stay in the fight better than Illya who was doing everything without Ruby. Could say the reason she was able to stay conscious is because she was using install with Sapphire
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Old 2013-09-08, 10:29   Link #34
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Illya blanked out before she used the Archer card. The loss of memory was not related to the card.
Yes, Illya was not taken over by the card. She became like this because the "lock" inside her was opened.

As for Miyu, the anime removed foreshadowing once again.
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Old 2013-09-08, 10:37   Link #35
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Illya was breaking down before she used the Install maneuver, but it struck me as just a typical emotional breakdown. It didn't strike me as something that would actually cause memory loss. In any event, once Illya used Install, the Archer card completely took her over. If Illya losing control to the card was for a reason other than using Install then the anime could have been much clearer about that.

In any event, the contrast between Illya using this move and Miyu using this move certainly does make Miyu look better by comparison. Should this anime have a 2nd season, I hope we'll get to see Illya use install while maintaining control of herself, just to even things up a bit.
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Old 2013-09-08, 11:06   Link #36
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Did they strip the Saber outfit down a bit for the anime? I don't recall Miyu being so...exposed in the manga.
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Old 2013-09-08, 11:23   Link #37
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Did they strip the Saber outfit down a bit for the anime? I don't recall Miyu being so...exposed in the manga.
It's the same in the manga.


I'm disappointed also this episode didn't not present Illya's view point of Iris as an airhead mother.

Only to show her mother is more than meets the eye.
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Do you want us to spoil everything for you? You're practically begging for it with comments like that, you know.
Why would I want anyone to spoil me? I'm just voicing my discontent at her randomly without any explanation being able to do something just by seeing someone else do it once for no reason other than being a damn Sue.
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Old 2013-09-08, 11:35   Link #40
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Why would I want anyone to spoil me? I'm just voicing my discontent at her randomly without any explanation being able to do something just by seeing someone else do it once for no reason other than being a damn Sue.
She's seen Illya do it twice. And maybe it's not all that complicated? Rin and Lluvia would probably understand it if they'd seen it first hand.

Regardless, it will be explained. Someday.

And I would think it's plainly obvious by this point that Miyu is not a normal girl. She is not just some girl walking home one night from the convenience store when Sapphire fell into her lap. She's homeless. She has no family. She is not surprised at all by the existence of magic and she's a fighter. Just where on earth did this girl come from? Or the cards for that matter?
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