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Old 2013-09-14, 13:02   Link #1
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Valvrave the Liberator - Spoilers & Speculation based on spin-off novels/manga

The purpose of this thread is to allow free discussion of theories and speculation of the Valvrave the Liberator anime series based on spin-off novels and manga., but be warned since it may contain unmarked spoilers. Having a central location may help focus the discussion instead of spreading speculation over the various episode discussion threads.

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Old 2013-09-14, 13:46   Link #2
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Even though the latest A-drei manga chapter has been out for a while and I'm sure that it's been discussed elsewhere, I'm still gonna use spoiler tags just in case.
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Old 2013-09-15, 01:54   Link #3
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If they were related I'd think they'd have mentioned the relation by now. So at this point I'm just going to take it as something we aren't meant to assume. Given how large these superpowers are it's possible that A-Drei's family may have been royals from one of the annexed countries (keeping their status only by swearing fealty to the Dorssian monarchy).
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Old 2013-09-15, 20:11   Link #4
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Well, maybe that's because A-drei's royal background isn't relevant in the anime? It's been mentioned here and there, but it's never really a main focus of his character. So far, he's only been about L-elf.
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The anime also didn't mention his goals.
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I'm guessing that they're using the manga to cover the things that they couldn't in the small span of 12 episodes (although I do still hope that they'll at least touch up on it in the anime). I'm sure that there are instances of this in Saki's manga as well. Also, all credit for the translations and scans goes to kind /a/nons.

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Old 2013-09-15, 22:20   Link #5
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But part of the reason A-Drei is so hell bent on getting L-Elf back is because of his goals. That has been touched on in the anime (when he talks about his right hand) and the magazine descriptions all bring up his previous status. Also with the existence of the royal sympathizers I would be surprised if his royal background doesn't play a part at some point. Though obviously I don't expect it to get the same level of treatment as the Valvrave/Magius stuff (thus where the manga comes in).
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Old 2013-09-22, 12:12   Link #6
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I don't know if this has been posted yet:

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Old 2013-09-22, 18:34   Link #7
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- L-elf orders Haruto to hand Shoko over during their confrontation. He refuses and L-elf asks if he would like to cut her in half instead. L-elf stretches his hand in her direction, Haruto tries to stop him and ends up being knocked to the ground, and then kicked in the shoulder when he tries to get up. When L-elf says that one can't split the most important things in half, he's apparently no longer talking to them but saying it to someone else. Haruto remembers Inuzuka's message (Shoko being taken by someone) while he listens to L-elf talking about conceding the things he values the most.
Gawd! for real? It is far different from that scene in the anime, and it has more substance in it. *blusing 100%
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Old 2013-09-22, 18:58   Link #8
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Whoa, that scene does seem far more intense in just words.
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Old 2013-09-22, 19:03   Link #9
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Whoa, that scene does seem far more intense in just words.
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It seems to be blatant foreshadowing more than anything. That maybe he will in the future, but the novel seems to focus on Haruto's feelings for Shoko more. Its made pretty obvious that he loves her more than she loves him.
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Old 2013-09-22, 21:12   Link #10
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Old 2013-09-22, 21:39   Link #11
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Old 2013-09-22, 23:56   Link #12
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The speculation of future story sounds so sad.
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Old 2013-09-23, 12:00   Link #13
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Just out of curiosity, but is there anything new in the novel about Saki or her relationship with Haruto?
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Old 2013-09-23, 16:55   Link #14
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Don't think the Novel has even gone far enough for more Saki/Haruto time.
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Old 2013-10-08, 15:10   Link #15
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Just because it hasn't been mentioned here yet, Dengeki Daioh's official twitter posted a few days ago:

今月発売の電撃大王12月号掲載の『革命機ヴァルヴレイヴ 流星の乙女』の原稿が上がって来ていますが・・・ついに登場のエルエルフさんがかっこいい。

So L-elf will finally be appearing in Saki's manga in the December issue, so chapter 5.

I'm going to assume that it's going to start S2, since chapter 4 covered episode 10-11.
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Old 2013-10-08, 15:49   Link #16
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How has her manga treated her relationship to Haruto thus far?
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Old 2013-10-08, 15:52   Link #17
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How has her manga treated her relationship to Haruto thus far?
He appeared (a little bit) in chapter 1, which was episode 6.
Now, in chapter 4 since it's dealing episode with episode 10-11, but I haven't seen the chapter, so there could be a little more.

So, not at all? (kinda)
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Old 2013-10-09, 04:43   Link #18
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He appeared (a little bit) in chapter 1, which was episode 6.
He also appeared in chapter 2 as one of Aina's friends.
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Old 2013-10-09, 18:36   Link #19
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He also appeared in chapter 2 as one of Aina's friends.
Oh, thanks for the correction! I completely forgot about that.
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Old 2013-11-11, 06:39   Link #20
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According to a Chinese Forum, here are some interesting background infos from the official novelization:

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