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View Poll Results: Monogatari Series Second Season - Episode 20 (Hitagi End III) Rating
Perfect 10 21 45.65%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 17 36.96%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 6 13.04%
7 out of 10 : Good 2 4.35%
6 out of 10 : Average 0 0%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2013-12-07, 02:47   Link #1
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Monogatari Series Second Season - Episode 20 Discussion / Poll (Hitagi End III)

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Old 2013-12-07, 10:27   Link #2
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DAT OP. DAT mister donuts and starbucks stealth marketing. DAT kaiki oniichan. DAT cliffhanger. DAT yotsugi peace signs.

DAT toilet scene.....
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Old 2013-12-07, 10:36   Link #3
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DAT OP. DAT mister donuts and starbucks stealth marketing. DAT kaiki oniichan. DAT cliffhanger. DAT yotsugi peace signs.

DAT toilet scene.....
What he said.
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Old 2013-12-07, 11:28   Link #4
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OP of the year.
Which year?
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Old 2013-12-07, 11:31   Link #5
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OP of the year.
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80s, I believe. Maybe 88... Reminded me about the Lupin III. Don't know why
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Old 2013-12-07, 11:52   Link #6
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DAT OP. DAT mister donuts and starbucks stealth marketing. DAT kaiki oniichan. DAT cliffhanger. DAT yotsugi peace signs.

DAT toilet scene.....
Whenever I heard any characters mention Mister Donut, or (in the novel) Kaiki mentions his special travel card, I always think "is this product placement right here?"

Seriously even an ancient vampire, or a legendary conman could be seen enjoyed their meal in Mister Donut, is there any cooler advertisement?
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Old 2013-12-07, 12:11   Link #7
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80s, I believe. Maybe 88... Reminded me about the Lupin III. Don't know why
Actually I was getting more of a Kimagure Orange Road feel.
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Old 2013-12-07, 12:28   Link #8
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It was Dirty Pair-esque for me, especially the kind of muted way they did the OP.

But yes, good job SHAFT, this is definitely a good make up present from no OP in Shinobu Time.

And seriously, I think they are trying to kill the Nadeko fans this arc, just wow.
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Old 2013-12-07, 13:11   Link #9
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Hahaha that sequence and their interactions makes them look more like a couple than when she is with Araragi.
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Old 2013-12-07, 13:18   Link #10
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Hahaha that sequence and their interactions makes them look more like a couple than when she is with Araragi.
By the end of the series everyone will crave for Kaiki's D instead of Araragi's.
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Old 2013-12-07, 13:21   Link #11
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Hahaha that sequence and their interactions makes them look more like a couple than when she is with Araragi.
We don't really see her with Araragi (well outside of two companion short stories in which they act like a legit couple).
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Old 2013-12-07, 14:43   Link #12
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I loved seeing Hitagi again and so close up! I love her eyes and her serious look (although she smiled once). And I felt for her when she got up and left to cry in the ladies' bathroom, then returned with softer eyes. I am also happy to hear her VA, Chiwa Saitou, return to sing the new OP, and see different views of Hitagi's character during the OP, although the music was weak, and not as moving as the two OP she had in Bakemonogatari. Well done Shaft!

I knew Kaiki will try to fool Nadeko in believing that Kayomi and Hitagi died in an accident, but I don't believe she will accept that so easily. And I have a hunch that the guy who gave her the original curse of the snake (as explained in Bakemonogatari) will be mad at him and may be the person who Kaiki feels is following him. I don't know if they will meet and what will happen. I do know what Kaiki fins in Nadeko's closet and it is related to something she mentions in Bakemonogatari to Koyomi.

I also liked to see Yotsugi Ononoki, and this time she cuter whenever she says "Peace!".

Anyway this episode made me feel good about Hitagi!
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Old 2013-12-07, 20:38   Link #13
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I love everything in this episode.
That OP especially.
I got the Oniisama e feels.
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Old 2013-12-07, 23:44   Link #14
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great episode, love whenever Kaiki outtalks hitagi.

He tries to play the villain so hard, but deep down, he's a softy.
I'm reminded of Kagenui's line about him. Something like "He's such a villain, but he says some good things"
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Old 2013-12-08, 00:45   Link #15
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We don't really see her with Araragi (well outside of two companion short stories in which they act like a legit couple).

I'm pretty sure we have seen a lot of Araragi/Hitagi interaction. They talk to each other, having lunch together, study together, go on a trip together in Bake, that kidnaping scene in Nise. This season though, they haven;t been seen sharing a scene together.

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So Kaiki is apparently a Jerk With A Heart Of Gold then?
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Old 2013-12-08, 06:26   Link #17
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Yep... that OP indeed!
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Old 2013-12-08, 06:32   Link #18
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Shaft can have their place back for doing unusual opening animations now. They really did it this time.

Action Kaiki detective man is 2 cool 4 me, can't handle it.

Hahaha the "yaaay peace peace" thing was funnier this way! The monotone and all so good.
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Old 2013-12-08, 07:57   Link #19
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"Three million yen"
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From start to finish (DAT OP!), this episode was nothing short of brilliant.
On the first episode of this arc I said I wasn't very fond of Kaiki, now my regret is that he didn't have nearly enough screentime.
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There was one thing I think Kaiki neglected to consider when he took the money: that Gaen knew he would take the money and do the job anyway.

After all, he was just thinking that he couldn't visit Nadeko more than five more times with his current funds the night before.

She could have given him those funds considering his troubling personality. It is what you would expect of a senior, and less what we would expect from her rather overbearing personality in the past. Or, thinking further, maybe we don't know Gaen as well as we think we do, like how we are finding out more about Kaiki now.
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