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Old 2013-10-17, 00:08   Link #41
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Good chapter but it definitely could have elaborated on the Law x Doflamingo bit. I'm in agreement with the general consensus that the Rebecca parts were the most entertaining (that and the ministory with the dinosaur).
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Old 2013-10-17, 08:05   Link #42
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It would be interesting if that dino was Drake, didn't think he would join Kaidou.

So Law is after Dofla for somebody's last wish? Wonder if it was his crew?

Rebecca really has a chance to win block d.

Interesting that fighters of that caliber can't escape that underground room. Seems like Barto has come to Zoro and Kinemon's rescue, lol with him crying and asking for autograph.

Wonder what Violet is really up to.
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Old 2013-10-17, 08:56   Link #43
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The T-Rex must be X Drake. Just compare his new hairstyle to the silhouette's head outline.
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Old 2013-10-17, 09:27   Link #44
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Well, so far nobody has been turned into toys. Though it's certainly interessting that they were locked together with a bunch of real toys.
Maybe the power in question doesn't physically transform the people into toys, but instead just transfers the mind, similar to Moria's shadow-power.
Yeah, confirmation was a little bit exaggerated. But what other explanation is there?
Doflamingo most certainly didn't put the toys there so that the warriors don't get bored.
He imprisoned representatives of other kingdoms and I'm sure, he won't let them roam free in Dressrosa after this incident.

I'm with you, in thinking that the DF user just transfers the mind of the victims - Similar to Law's Shambles.
What I find more interesting is the thought, that they must be able to transform even guys like Chinjao, who most likely possesses all types of Haki.

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But it's still strange that all those powerful fighters could be locked in. Doesn't any of them posses observation haki, to feel the hostile intention? Is nobody of them able to climb the walls for an exit?
Well, Luffy wasn't able to escape the garbage dump on Punk Hazard alone. If no one is a Geppo user or has a DF power that helps, I don't see them getting out anytime soon.

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Old 2013-10-17, 13:46   Link #45
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What Well, Luffy wasn't able to escape the garbage dump on Punk Hazard alone. If no one is a Geppo user or has a DF power that helps, I don't see them getting out anytime soon
Actually Luffy did, he carried unconscious Momo out of there that's why he was "patting" too much... He was gonna start climbing before Momo flew but he finished the job.
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Old 2013-10-17, 17:33   Link #46
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Marvel, where does it say it's Drake ?

I am just a bit confused since You said it was confirmed. Did i miss anything?

Did you meant that the dino image being in the chapter confirmed or him being drake confirmed.

There's no text in the chapter confirming that the dinosaur is Drake.


However, I'd have kinda thought it would be obvious that it was him anyway, since he's the only person we know so far who can transform into a T-Rex. Plus, as was already mentioned, the spikes on the dino's head even resembles Drake's post-timeskip hairstyle. You're free to believe that it's a red herring if you want, but I'm gonna put my trust in Occam's Razor here, thank you very much.
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Old 2013-10-17, 18:42   Link #47
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In the Manga chapter translation i read it doesn't say anything about the Dinosaur being Drake. May i ask who/where confirmed it?

Drake is the likely choice for the Dino, but it could still be an artificial Zoan Dinosaur.
Here's XDrake's image and transformation post time skip:
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Old 2013-10-18, 02:24   Link #48
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There's no text in the chapter confirming that the dinosaur is Drake.


However, I'd have kinda thought it would be obvious that it was him anyway, since he's the only person we know so far who can transform into a T-Rex. Plus, as was already mentioned, the spikes on the dino's head even resembles Drake's post-timeskip hairstyle. You're free to believe that it's a red herring if you want, but I'm gonna put my trust in Occam's Razor here, thank you very much.
Well i am personally leaning toward It's Drake as well.

I am just saying another likely possibility is Artificial Zoan fruit.

I do admit i want it to be red herring though. It would be more interesting that way .
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Old 2013-10-18, 04:59   Link #49
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Actually Luffy did, he carried unconscious Momo out of there that's why he was "patting" too much... He was gonna start climbing before Momo flew but he finished the job.
If it was that easy Monet wouldn't have said, that he needed to fly to get out. We only saw Momonosuke flying and Luffy carry him when they were already out. So no, Luffy can't take credit for that.
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Old 2013-10-18, 10:23   Link #50
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I am just saying another likely possibility is Artificial Zoan fruit.
So no evidence again?
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Old 2013-10-18, 10:56   Link #51
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So no evidence again?
I'm with Whitemoon on this. Even if the probability of the dino being Drake is so high it's not entirely impossible for it to be an artificial zoan, it's high time we actually see one besides Momonosuke. I'm also a bit confused as to why Drake would even want to join Kaidou, it looked to me like he had a grudge.


PS: Does anyone know what Oda's condition is? With all these recent breaks it has to be pretty serious. Also one translation spoke of a hiatus *shudders* anyone know if that's for one week or possibly more?
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Old 2013-10-18, 13:47   Link #52
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I'm with Whitemoon on this. Even if the probability of the dino being Drake is so high it's not entirely impossible for it to be an artificial zoan, it's high time we actually see one besides Momonosuke.
Nothing is impossible.

An artificial zoan is not a 'likely' possibility, considering the evidence at this point in time.
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Old 2013-10-18, 15:47   Link #53
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Well i am personally leaning toward It's Drake as well.

I am just saying another likely possibility is Artificial Zoan fruit.
Why not both?
Was it ever explicitly stated, that the fruit Drake ate were a genuine one?

But if this is really Drake, then he is most likely the Supernova with the least progress at all, beeing still on the same island as two years ago.
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Old 2013-10-18, 16:23   Link #54
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I wonder if Law could be refering to his teacher if he had one. When he was talking to Dolfa.
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Old 2013-10-18, 21:17   Link #55
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A little question: Do you think the prison surrounding the ones who got defeated is the same material that blocked Whitebeard's earthquake powers?
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Old 2013-10-19, 03:27   Link #56
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The only thing that was quite enjoyable of this chapter were the scenes with Rebecca.
And concerning the Dinosaur. You have to be a complete simpleton with crappy information on One Piece and basic information on dinosaurs to believe that it's Drake. Nothing suggests it's Drake at all due to the horns. No zoan type can retain their hair while in their full beast form, those are horns and Drake doesn't have horns since he's just a basic Theropoda Dinosaur, Not a T-Rex.

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Could it be Drake? If it's a T-rex, then it's definitely him. And even if it's not, I'm still adamant in Drake being a part of Kaido's crew.
The problem here is that you guys think Drake is a T-Rex when he's not.
He's just a basic Theropoda dinosaur. You also lack the basic information that a T-Rex doesn't have horns. You also lack the information that Zoans in their full beast form cannot retain their hair.
Know what that means? It means that it's not hair, it's horns. Drake doesn't have horns.

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Here's XDrake's image and transformation post time skip:
No, Full beast form Zoans do not retain their hair. And that image was just a basic coloring.
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Old 2013-10-19, 04:21   Link #57
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Nothing is impossible.

An artificial zoan is not a 'likely' possibility, considering the evidence at this point in time.
Please explain why this isn't likely?
Because an artificial Zoan would fit better then Drake still being on the same island after 2 years. And please show me where it was ever stated that Drake joined Kaido's crew, because I must have missed that.

The only evidence we have is the hairdo of a dino silhouette. Which isn't much.
Still even I consider Drake to be the more likely option, however you can't just ignore the other possibilities.
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Old 2013-10-19, 05:46   Link #58
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Nothing is impossible.

An artificial zoan is not a 'likely' possibility, considering the evidence at this point in time.
Nothing suggest that it's Drake other than the basic shape of the thing.
More things suggest that it's not him and that it could just be another artificial zoan type user.
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Old 2013-10-19, 11:12   Link #59
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Please explain why this isn't likely?
Because an artificial Zoan would fit better then Drake still being on the same island after 2 years. And please show me where it was ever stated that Drake joined Kaido's crew, because I must have missed that.

The only evidence we have is the hairdo of a dino silhouette. Which isn't much.
Still even I consider Drake to be the more likely option, however you can't just ignore the other possibilities.
We don't know for certain that Drake has been situated on that island only for the past 2 years. Perhaps he got word of what was going on at that island and was sent to investigate (he may have come from somewhere else in the New World).

It was never stated that Drake joined Kaido's crew. That's just something that some people have theorized (myself included). Think about it. We know that in the New World if one runs into an emperor they have two choices: 1) join their crew or 2) get slaughtered. Pre-skip, Drake goaded Kaido's wrath by starting a fight with one of his bodyguards (the one Caribou got into a scuffle with in the recent cover story). So we can see that Drake wanted Kaido's attention for whatever reason. Then we find out that Kaido and his followers/army have a zoan theme associated with them, which Drake himself fits into. And now, with this chapter that just came out, we see a T-rex attacking Caribou sporting a hairdo that looks very much like post-skip Drake's hairdo. That being said, Drake becoming a core part of Kaido's crew is plausible.
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Old 2013-10-19, 11:37   Link #60
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^Just like BDK said. Plus ancient mythical zoan are suppose to be more rare than logias. Having an artificial ancient zoan would only make it look cheap, not to mention the similarities in it. Unless of course XDrake got killed and Kaido gave his DF to 1 of his subordinates. I'm guessing that Kaido's artificial zoan df's are all regular animals like elephants, pigs and tigers.
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