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Old 2014-06-30, 12:40   Link #2841
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Might just be bad luck with the RNG, or you may need the Type 3 Anti-Submarine Warfare equipment.

I'm running 1-5 too, and this is the build I'm using:
Fusou-Kai
Hiyou-Kai
Yuubari
Isuzu-Kai

I'm having good luck with it, but sometimes that initial torpedo burst from the boss will give me trouble. You just have to suck it up and keep at it, and if you're really having trouble, try swapping out your destroyers for light cruisers, upgrading the armor on your ships, and try getting type 3 ASW stuff.
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Old 2014-06-30, 12:43   Link #2842
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Yea, CAs are a closer comparison. I think they should be able to compete with the BBVs though, if they go for a more secondary (15.5cm probably) based equipment build or if you count in the torpedo at the end of the day battle.

On the DDs, instead equip Sonars + Depth Charge, that should let them one-shot easily. The BBV / CVL are kind of going to be deadweight, there's not much you can do about that unless you happen to have some Akitsu Marus lying around for her ASW planes (or any other source of ASW planes that I don't know about).
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Old 2014-06-30, 12:44   Link #2843
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You need a combination of Sonar and Depth Charge to make the most out of it. 2x Sonar + 1 Depth Charge for your remodeled DD's will do.
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Old 2014-06-30, 12:51   Link #2844
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Yea, CAs are a closer comparison. I think they should be able to compete with the BBVs though, if they go for a more secondary (15.5cm probably) based equipment build or if you count in the torpedo at the end of the day battle.
DD cannot equip that kind of caliber to begin with. All cannons they can equip in the game have at most 3FP. There is no way in hell they are going to give any better FP than Yuudachi/Ayanami 12.7cm B cannon, otherwise it would make tons of ships completely redundant.

Another reason why DD cannot compete on the grand picture: they cannot double attack during day battle. And they shouldn't be able to, otherwise game balance would be laughable.
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Old 2014-06-30, 12:52   Link #2845
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hmm
wait
so no need of cannon/torpedo at all?
edit:
damn
still not maximised my CA because I focused on clearing 3-2
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Old 2014-06-30, 12:54   Link #2846
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hmm
wait
so no need of cannon/torpedo at all?
Cannon and Torpedo do not affect ASW stats at all, which is the only stats that dictate damage done to Submarines.
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Old 2014-06-30, 12:57   Link #2847
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DD cannot equip that kind of caliber to begin with. All cannons they can equip in the game have at most 3FP. There is no way in hell they are going to give any better FP than Yuudachi/Ayanami 12.7cm B cannon, otherwise it would make tons of ships completely redundant.

Another reason why DD cannot compete on the grand picture: they cannot double attack during day battle. And they shouldn't be able too, otherwise game balance would be laughable.
I meant if the BBVs went for one of the 15.5cm compositions and/or had Ammo or Radar equipped which would reduce the overall firepower, though if artillery spotting went off, with luck they could make it back with cut-ins/double attacks. Though I had completely forgotten that DDs couldn't double attack during day to be honest lol
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Old 2014-06-30, 13:01   Link #2848
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Why would anyone use a full 15.5cm on BBV anyway? Even without CI/DA battle mechanics, you need as much FP as possible.
Even a single 35.6cm will put to shame a fully 12.7cm B armed Yuudachi: Yuudachi can at most have 82 FP (provided you manage to get 3 12.7cm B cannons). Fuso class in BBV mode are the weakest BB and still have 79FP, which means any decent cannon will just deal more damage, and a normal setup should have at least 2 41cm (+40).
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Old 2014-06-30, 13:03   Link #2849
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I actually did just that when I was starting out, because I was short on 35.6cms sadly enough
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Old 2014-06-30, 13:07   Link #2850
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... A while back I got sick of having so much "common" equipment cluttering up my inventory that I ditched anything that wasn't marked "rare".
Oops.
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Old 2014-06-30, 22:28   Link #2851
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Sidonia op goes well with Kantai collection.

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Old 2014-06-30, 22:30   Link #2852
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... A while back I got sick of having so much "common" equipment cluttering up my inventory that I ditched anything that wasn't marked "rare".
Oops.
Posh, there's a use for those, it's called "for accumulating barrels".
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Old 2014-06-30, 23:39   Link #2853
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aka, weekly scrap 24 pieces of equipment quest
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Old 2014-06-30, 23:44   Link #2854
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Already hit Admiral level 76, so getting REALLY leery at even doing sorties anymore... which is hard to do, all things considered.

Gradually reforming my 3-2 team. My first play at Palau had Fubuki, Samidare, Hibiki, Yuudachi, Shigure, and Shimakaze, but now (especially since I got Yukikaze early due to spamming sub recipes for Hachi) I'm revising things:

Yukikaze, Shimakaze, Yuudachi, Shigure, Yuudachi, and possibly Ayanami to fill in for Fubuki this time. As before it's likely that I'd Kai-2 most of these before I try, but such is the way of things.
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Old 2014-07-01, 00:17   Link #2855
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I might have to do that myself. RNG has been very brutal to me in 3-2. First six times, all in a row, I got thrown off the boss path onto B (steel node up north). Then Attempt #7, battleship crit, insta-red. #8, sent to E onto the double battle path, somehow 5 of the torpedoes hit my same destroyer, 7/28hp (1 hp into red). #9 Make it past E, heavy cruiser crits, still okay, torpedo phase, all of the torpedoes aim for the injured ship. Finally start sparkling every single girl. Attempt #10 Make it past both E and F with barely a scratch.....compass sends me G to troll me. Attempt #11, somehow, despite being sparkled (double evasion), my Shigure got hit 5 times in E (every single ship aimed for her, every single one somehow hit), then torpedoed, red before I even get to F.

And that's where I currently am lol
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Old 2014-07-01, 00:23   Link #2856
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I manage to pass 3-2 without sparkling my ships. Was wondering, what formation did you use on the nodes before boss?

I used

lvl 21 Yukikaze (flag)
lvl 36 Shimakaze
lvl 35 Urakaze
lvl 34 Shigure
lvl 34 Yuudachi
lvl 29 Hibiki

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Old 2014-07-01, 00:35   Link #2857
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Line Abreast is usually expected for 3-2 runs, before switching to Line Ahead for the boss node.

And if you think it's hard, you're going to be forced to do this AGAIN, except using Mutsuki-class DDs (who have, like, 24 HP remodeled) next for quests.
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Old 2014-07-01, 00:39   Link #2858
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Line Abreast (Anti-Sub) as suggested by the wiki.

And I'm using
lvl 25 Inazuma (flag)
lvl 38 Hibiki
lvl 28 Shigure
lvl 25 Ayanami
lvl 25 Yuudachi
lvl 24 Shiranui
All in Kai form, maxed torpedo stats, about half maxed armor. Quad Oxygen Torpedo + 2x 10cm Twin HA. Except for Inazuma who's 2x 10cm + Enhanced Steam Boiler.
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Old 2014-07-01, 01:24   Link #2859
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3-2 is more or less about luck... you can stick Damacon in all the DDs even. 2 main guns double attack for the boss node should do the trick.
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Old 2014-07-01, 11:50   Link #2860
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Isn't double line another option since you can utilize the firepower to clear out the BB's escorts?
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