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Old 2014-08-04, 09:58   Link #3401
risingstar3110
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Okay. Sub copies then. Or clones. Or mass produced models. Or expendables.
Why does it sounds worse each time you put it??


And since when did your Abyssal Destroyer upgraded to Flag ships status? 0_0
Is it like.. gonna grow into Wo-class then Remodeled Flagship Wo overtime?
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Old 2014-08-04, 10:01   Link #3402
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Logically speaking, we shouldn't need CV(L) for Al maps, or at least a very minimal involvement compared to Mi.
Hell, they are going to tell us the favorable fleet composition for once, so that is quite telling.
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Old 2014-08-04, 10:04   Link #3403
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And since when did your Abyssal Destroyer upgraded to Flag ships status? 0_0
Is it like.. gonna grow into Wo-class then Remodeled Flagship Wo overtime?
Actually, it's a different DD. Last time was an I-class. This one's a Ha-class
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Old 2014-08-04, 10:09   Link #3404
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Well, the attack on Dutch harbor featured an asssult by Jun'yo and Ryujo. This was the opening blitz, and then you have submarines and DDs being committed, and you will see a few CA and CLs as well. No capital ship was sent to the Aleutian islands supposedly.
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Old 2014-08-04, 10:10   Link #3405
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Just to ease some worries, it's very easy to lock a ship for some maps, and it's impossible (without extensive database and game mechanics revamping) to lock equipment.

So no equipment cockblock or bugs with ships are to be expected, if you consider the devs to be even the slightest bit competent.
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Old 2014-08-04, 11:24   Link #3406
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Thanks for the info. Okay, good, so me as a new teitoku doesn't need to worry about fleet management. Have neither the appropriate level, nor the number of carriers needed to tackle Midway. So I guess I'll send all big guns to AL and try my luck.
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Old 2014-08-04, 11:36   Link #3407
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You may want to wait a few hours or days for intel. then you can relax, while still keeping your eyes peeled, you don't want to send a critically damaged girl to the next node because you were too hasty or too tired.
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Old 2014-08-04, 11:42   Link #3408
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You may want to wait a few hours or days for intel. then you can relax, while still keeping your eyes peeled, you don't want to send a critically damaged girl to the next node because you were too hasty or too tired.
I don't have time on Friday anyway, so it lines up perfectly for me to get intel.
Also, have to wait to build up more stocks on ressources. Due to me grinding 3-2-1 the last few days to level my ships the fuel and ammo stocks haven't risen for days. At HQ level 47 I'm sitting at 10,500 fuel and 13,000 ammo.
Besides, I'm not worried about sending girls in the red into a next battle. I'm paranoid about losing them, so for a long time I sent them back home even when they were orange, as I didn't pay attention and thought medium damage was already enough to get them sunk.
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Old 2014-08-04, 19:15   Link #3409
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Mmm, two front attack with fleet locking. Now here's to hoping that the devs weren't messing with us when they said that newbies can play through the Aleutians campaign, since all my CAs are level 29-30 and my CLs barring Naka and Isuzu are in the level 28 range.

My CVLs are all in the 50s though, with Mom and RJ-chan at 55 and 53, so I can probably use them to provide air support for that AL part of the event.
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Old 2014-08-04, 19:17   Link #3410
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As far as Kancolle dev trackrecords went, every first maps of every events thus far are perfectly doable, even for Admirals who have just joined a week prior the event, as long people weren't aiming too far and took advantage of the full duration of the event.
So I wouldn't worry too much about that.

The real question is: is Mi maps the EO of the event, or will EO maps be unlocked after being done with Al?
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Old 2014-08-04, 21:34   Link #3411
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That reminded me about how I got Mutsu barely a week before the anniversary event, and when the event hit she was level 30-something and tied with Nagato.

She ended up at level 72 along with her sister at the end of it. XD

Edit Edit: Burned through 75 Devmats before bed, because I wasn't comfortable with the idea of just having two Sanshikidan so close to the event. Results below:



So my target was four more, which I got. However...



... I also got 5 more Type 91s, which even before I rarely used. Well, that, and a gaggle of 10cm HAs, and 15.5 yellows I have no idea who to put on now.
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Old 2014-08-05, 11:11   Link #3412
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^ Doesn't hurt to have more AP shells.
Day cut-ins are great against tanky enemies (like in 5-5) and pvp.

As for 15.5cms, I use them mostly on my CAs and CLs during pvp when it's obvious that I won't get air superiority.
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Old 2014-08-05, 11:15   Link #3413
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It must be my luck, because after 4 full 5-5 a row, I'm pretty much forsaking AP shell.
Be it for Nagato, Kirishima or both Yamato, the day cut-in hardly deal any damage, and when it does, you would have done nearly as much with double attack setup.

To me, the AP shell is too unreliable for 5-5, and I prefer to have every damage dealt during the day to have only Re/Princess and the Wo Class.

They are merely used for PVP in my case.
That said, the moment they can be used for day double attack setup, they are immediately back on my BB.
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Old 2014-08-05, 11:20   Link #3414
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^ My luck is the completely opposite
I find double attack doing scratch damage too often for my liking against Wo-Kai
While my cut-ins, be it Nagato/Mutsu or Yamato, scored quite a number of one-hit kills on Wo-Kai (flagship or escort) and crippling blows on Re during day battle these past several months.
So personally I decided to believe in that 1.5x modifier over the double 1.2x
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Old 2014-08-05, 16:34   Link #3415
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Is it recommended that I bring Kai-2 Destroyers to 3-2 or is there an equipment composition that I should use on my Destroyers?

I can't get past that cause my Destroyers keep getting their asses kicked that I seriously don't know what to do to get past that TAT

Currently I only got Level 30 Shigure, Yuudachi, Level 26 Inazuma, Level 24 Akatsuki, Level 25 Hibiki, Level 24 Ikazuchi, Level 20 Shimakaze, and Level 27 Murakumo for my Destroyers :s
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Old 2014-08-05, 16:48   Link #3416
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Is it recommended that I bring Kai-2 Destroyers to 3-2 or is there an equipment composition that I should use on my Destroyers?
Conceivably you could finish it with level 25s, as long as they're maxed out in Armor, Torpedo, and Firepower. However in 3-2 basically the lower your level is, the more you give RNG free reign on your DD runs to the boss node.

During my old run at it, I didn't take a chance. Level 50, max sparkle, and all my DDs were given damecon.
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Old 2014-08-05, 16:51   Link #3417
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Is it recommended that I bring Kai-2 Destroyers to 3-2 or is there an equipment composition that I should use on my Destroyers?

I can't get past that cause my Destroyers keep getting their asses kicked that I seriously don't know what to do to get past that TAT

Currently I only got Level 30 Shigure, Yuudachi, Level 26 Inazuma, Level 24 Akatsuki, Level 25 Hibiki, Level 24 Ikazuchi, Level 20 Shimakaze, and Level 27 Murakumo for my Destroyers :s
People have run it using 6 Mutsuki with regular success as long they are above Lv.25 with maxed stats. It's just a game of dice. You do not need to run it with Lv.40+ DDs.
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Old 2014-08-05, 18:56   Link #3418
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Time for my destroyers to devour other ships > >
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Old 2014-08-05, 20:12   Link #3419
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Is it recommended that I bring Kai-2 Destroyers to 3-2 or is there an equipment composition that I should use on my Destroyers?
The average Kai-2 level for a destroyer is absurdly high, and honestly there's no need for it. You've already got a Shimakaze, which isthe hard part. If you had a Yukikaze she'd be good too, but if you don't it's not really worth worrying about.

Here are a few notes I made when I was doing it, collected from various Japanese sites.
  1. Average level of around 30.
  2. Don't use any of the Mutsuki series unless you really, really want to. You can do it, but there are stories of a guy trying it with 6 level 98 Mutsuki's and still failing.
  3. Sparkle your ships in 1-1. You can also look for players who have one or two subs to fight in PvP. If you've got anti-submarine equipment, 6 destroyers can annhilate 2 or 3 submarines even if you're at a much lower level.
  4. Make sure your armor, firepower, and torpedo stats are maxed out. AA is nice to have, but not critical.
  5. You can use Damecons here if you want; it's one of the few places in the game where they're really useful.
  6. Remember that the actual boss fight is much easier than the node before it, which is the one with all the scary battleships.
  7. Don't try and fight night battles on your way to the boss. You don't need to win them.
  8. If a ship gets severely damaged in the node before the boss fight, don't feel like you have to proceed even though it means sinking her. If your ships are appropriately leveled and modernized, the stage honestly isn't that difficult. It's not worth getting a ship sunk over, especially since you'll need high-level destroyers later.

When I beat it I used Michishio, Asashio, Ooshio, Arashio, Shimakaze, and Yukikaze. They were all between level 28 and level 35.

There are actually some decent drops on 3-2, like Nagato, so evidently some people actually make multiple runs through the thing. Thankfully destroyers are cheap to repair, so if you get your butt kicked just pull back, send them to the docks, and try again in an hour.
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Old 2014-08-05, 20:33   Link #3420
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The average Kai-2 level for a destroyer is absurdly high, and honestly there's no need for it. You've already got a Shimakaze, which isthe hard part. If you had a Yukikaze she'd be good too, but if you don't it's not really worth worrying about.
That's the thing i find about raising CAs,CLs and DDs with such high remodel levels-given they dont seem to be able to get MVP compared to BBs or CVs easily,it's quite hard to raise them effectively.

How would one raise them effectively?
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