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Old 2013-12-04, 00:54   Link #1
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[Manga] Naruto Chapter 657 Discussion Thread

Welcome to the weekly manga chapter discussion thread. This thread is created early to discuss spoilers and speculation about the upcoming chapter as well as discussion of said chapter once it has been released.

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I think there are spoilers this week, but I am unsure. Whatever, here' the new thread. Have fun.
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Old 2013-12-04, 01:07   Link #2
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Chapter is out!
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Old 2013-12-04, 01:26   Link #3
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That was almost a waste of a chapter.
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Old 2013-12-04, 02:42   Link #4
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not a clue what happened this chapter ... zetsu has magical power to keep souls bounded to body ... madara op enough to take on entire narutoverse all of a sudden ...
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Old 2013-12-04, 03:01   Link #5
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Madara is still a beast even with a human body he kept all his power , dang ... damm kabuto!
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Old 2013-12-04, 03:04   Link #6
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Madara doesn't have any eyes and he's still winning lol

It seems he has to wait for black Zetsu to get the Rinnegan from Obito for him.
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Old 2013-12-04, 03:44   Link #7
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So the yellow flash isn't fast enough to stop Zetsu from merging with Obito? And why didn't Sage-Naruto notice Black Zetsu chapters ago?

So what do you think: How many chapters will we see of blind Madara defeating the Tailed Beasts? I hope it will be over fast.
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Old 2013-12-04, 04:12   Link #8
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I said it from i saw inzmani or what ever its called...thats the only way to beat madara..sasuke is dull and aint shined since he fought 8 tails!there is only one way out of inzamni!! Madara interpreted the uchia tablet his way...but sasuke will come to learn that way is wrong.naruto and sasuke beat madara sasuke loses an eye maybe two..then gets reningan same way madara got his!
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Old 2013-12-04, 06:50   Link #9
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aww... Madara still need more power??? Rinnegan + Perfect Sharingan with Tailed beast, eh?
so he want to be the next Six Path Sage

Hashirama is defeated easily....
Naruto needs more nakama and shounen power
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Old 2013-12-04, 07:04   Link #10
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Idk how it came to this but idgaf about Madara now...Kishi you fully ruined Naruto and I feel violated to my soul. This sham of a war has depleted me
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Old 2013-12-04, 08:58   Link #11
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Why would Madara give up his immortal body?
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Old 2013-12-04, 10:09   Link #12
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A lot of things don't make any sense.. I know it fiction but it's still needed to follow the standard procedure..

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Why would Madara give up his immortal body?
To beat hashirama easily.. apparently he can't use 'that jutsu' while in endo tensei..

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Old 2013-12-04, 10:12   Link #13
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I actually liked the chapter. The brief skirmish with Sasuke was fun (got to love Madara using his arm to 'capture' Sasuke's weapon), and even if the Black Zetsu part was stupid (especially since it keeps Obito active longer), I'm still cool with the progress.

What I don't understand is the timing. Isn't the Big Tree about to bloom? And shouldn't everyone be focused on that instead of Madara? Or is the tree on hold because Obito lost?
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Old 2013-12-04, 10:20   Link #14
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So the yellow flash isn't fast enough to stop Zetsu from merging with Obito?

he's conveniently being made dumbdown and 'slow' for plot hole.. And he's also the one who stopped kakashi from delivering the final blow on obito which gave the black zetsu the chance to revive madara.. black zetsu was also nowhere to be seen when kakashi was just about to stab obito.. wait, he must have known the 4th will interfere.. even I knew that..
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Old 2013-12-04, 11:20   Link #15
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I actually liked the chapter. The brief skirmish with Sasuke was fun (got to love Madara using his arm to 'capture' Sasuke's weapon), and even if the Black Zetsu part was stupid (especially since it keeps Obito active longer), I'm still cool with the progress.
I actually liked it too. it's true that some things don't make any sense, but that's pretty common nowadays so no surprise there. it makes no sense that minato is slower than zetsu or that madara would still have hashi's face and not his rinnegan, or that he's better than hashi now, or that he can do all that without eyes... but whatever. i thought it was a pretty exciting fight. certainly better than hearing about rin all day

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What I don't understand is the timing. Isn't the Big Tree about to bloom? And shouldn't everyone be focused on that instead of Madara? Or is the tree on hold because Obito lost?
i think it paused when the bijou got ripped out. madara will probably absorb the bijou somehow and start the bloom again
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Old 2013-12-04, 11:25   Link #16
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He doesn't have his Rinnegan because Obito has it. Without Edo Tensei, his eyes won't magically "heal" themselves back into existence.
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Old 2013-12-04, 11:33   Link #17
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He doesn't have his Rinnegan because Obito has it. Without Edo Tensei, his eyes won't magically "heal" themselves back into existence.
well why not? lol it's all magic anyway. why would he still have hashirama's face? it should be the same principle that that was only an ET manifestation since he didn't have that irl either.

also, iirc he had a sharingan when he met obito. why doesn't he at least have that one?
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Old 2013-12-04, 11:39   Link #18
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Okay, so Madara has his eyes closed, because currently he posesses no eyes, is this correct?
One of his eyes has Obito, but where is the other one?
But if Madara doesn't have the Rinnegan at the moment, then how can he absorb Ninjutsu? And how does he decide where to move? Senjutsu chakra can give him the ability to sense everyone, but he knew where Hashirama was even before absorbing his natural chakra.

What I also didn't understand: In one moment he wanted to rip out Sasuke's eyes as a substitute for his eyes, but in the next moment he doesn't want them anymore and goes straight for the Tailed Beasts? Why the change of mind?

Kakashi should just warp black zetsu and the Rinnegan into Obito's dimension.
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Old 2013-12-04, 11:56   Link #19
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I like how Madara says that senjutsu chakra is not so huge and he can easily handle it. Interesting way to talk about a power that's been kicking his ass for over a hundred years.
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Old 2013-12-04, 12:14   Link #20
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Madara's will is strong but the will of Rin love might be stronger.
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