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View Poll Results: Monogatari Series Second Season - Episode 23 [END] Rating
Perfect 10 32 53.33%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 17 28.33%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 7 11.67%
7 out of 10 : Good 3 5.00%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 1.67%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2014-01-21, 07:32   Link #101
GDB
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as You said ,I can miss a lot of points ,data ,whatever,but the reality...,she offered her body to Kiaki that's it .Simple and clear.And You should accept it,if you are excusing Hitagi attitude ,ok ,but IMO she is double dealing Koyomi.
No, she didn't. Not once did she offer herself to Kaiki. If you're so sure she did, take a screenshot of said moment and post it.

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I don't need to clarify my understandings of the whole arc,because light novel perception is different than anime,and even is the same show ,details are different is like comparing 2 snow flakes ,both are the same but not equal.
be free to enlight me with details about the arc
You need to clarify your understanding because, even based purely on the anime, you're beyond wrong. People HAVE been "enlightening" you about why you're wrong, but you just keep rehashing the "Nope, you're naive and I'm right" nonsense.
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Old 2014-02-01, 13:02   Link #102
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Well, i only watched the anime, however in my understanding, when you trying to make a deal and you mention you are willingly to sell your body to get enough money, it implicitly implies that you are willing to chip your body in as a part of the deal.
Though i do not know if she mean selling her body was a mean to get the money or she deliberately wanted to have sex with Kaiki.

This last arc was a very big mood swing.

Kaiki from a B rate antagonist character became an awesome guy. I really impressed at how he throw the coffee at Kitagi face implying "stop cheapen yourself, you are a woman i respect"

I also dont know WTF happen to Kitagi. She was a prideful woman that yield to nothing yet meeting Kaiki she is like some lite tsundere/ helpless/ vulnerable girl.

btw: looking at how Nissin revive character in Medeka box, i am not surprised that Kaiki got some super power and revive in the next season
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Old 2014-02-02, 04:24   Link #103
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Well, i only watched the anime, however in my understanding, when you trying to make a deal and you mention you are willingly to sell your body to get enough money, it implicitly implies that you are willing to chip your body in as a part of the deal.
Though i do not know if she mean selling her body was a mean to get the money or she deliberately wanted to have sex with Kaiki.
An easy way to decipher Gahara's remark on her willingness to sell her body is by taking a consideration to the current situation that she is in at the moment.

1. She was threatened by a middle schooler that possesses a supernatural power. Due to her deal with Sengoku, Araragi and herself will be killed in April.

2. She is not to make the situation more dire and complicated, so requesting help from Kaiki is the only way for her right now.

3. To hire the guy to do a specific job, you must at least have load of money first to secure his willingness to take on the request. Note that she does not have that much of savings in the first place, so she could only pay him everything that she has.

4. Gahara's remark shows that how desperate she is to get Araragi and herself away from Sengoku's threat. The remark itself is pretty spontaneous without much consideration and thinking from her side, thus the juice-thrown-in-the-face.
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