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Old 2008-10-06, 16:48   Link #2241
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As for Asuna being a fake, that's not completely unbelievable.
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Old 2008-10-06, 17:28   Link #2242
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Long story short: this is most likely a plot device just to hold off the final showdown with Fate until the final day of the festival.

Seriously, it is unknown whether or not Nodoka can fix the book just by de-summoning it. However, I can tell you that she can do that, she's going to hold off doing so for a while, because all the information that was recorded before it was turned to stone (which will most likely include Fate's evil plan) have been preserved (and possibly readable). Given how Nodoka can't tell Negi the information just yet due to them separating in order to avoid getting arrested, she'll probably need to wait until the next time the group meets up to inform them about Fate's plan (and then see if she can fix her book by de-summoning it).
But they're within range of each other, enough so that they could communicate through card. Unless security is actually monitoring all forms of communication within the city now that they know Negi and company are present.

Also, we really don't know how much Nodoka was able to record. At the time Fate attacked her, what we did see was him ranting about how he hates his name and how he'd rather not get Real World people involved.
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Old 2008-10-06, 18:17   Link #2243
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My suspicions of a fake Asuna are only strengthened when she somehow "takes care of the black pillars" and doesn't look winded at all.
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Old 2008-10-06, 18:21   Link #2244
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My suspicions of a fake Asuna are only strengthened when she somehow "takes care of the black pillars" and doesn't look winded at all.
It's just her magic cancel. She did the same to that huge lightning trap the bounty hunters set, so it's a little too late to be surprised by that. Just accept that she's leveled up.

Besides, the pillars incident was before she ran into the firestarter, which included an Asuna monologue. The whole suspicion that she's a fake comes from her suddenly going from fighting two of Fate's crew to showing up where Negi/Fate are.
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Old 2008-10-06, 21:03   Link #2245
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It's just her magic cancel. She did the same to that huge lightning trap the bounty hunters set, so it's a little too late to be surprised by that. Just accept that she's leveled up.

Besides, the pillars incident was before she ran into the firestarter, which included an Asuna monologue. The whole suspicion that she's a fake comes from her suddenly going from fighting two of Fate's crew to showing up where Negi/Fate are.
Also, that she only mentioned the black pillars, which was the only thing anyone witnessed last from Asuna.
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Old 2008-10-06, 21:45   Link #2246
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If Negi and co. were to be captured and brought into a trial, I would think that Nodoka's mind reading would be the one thing that can clear the group's name because I'd be impossible for people to lie with their thoughts and, assuming that they haven't been affected by mind-altering magic, it would be irrifutable evidence. And as for the petrification, Yue could probably find something about it with her artifact.
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Old 2008-10-06, 21:46   Link #2247
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But they're within range of each other, enough so that they could communicate through card. Unless security is actually monitoring all forms of communication within the city now that they know Negi and company are present.
One problem: to communicate with Negi, Nodoka will have to de-summon the book. Hence, all the information that was on the book will probably disappear if she did that.

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Also, we really don't know how much Nodoka was able to record. At the time Fate attacked her, what we did see was him ranting about how he hates his name and how he'd rather not get Real World people involved.
However, just before Fate tried to attack her, Nodoka asked Fate what his "aim" was. Hence, that part could have begun to appear on the books pages as the attack was going on.
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Old 2008-10-06, 22:23   Link #2248
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If Negi and co. were to be captured and brought into a trial, I would think that Nodoka's mind reading would be the one thing that can clear the group's name because I'd be impossible for people to lie with their thoughts and, assuming that they haven't been affected by mind-altering magic, it would be irrifutable evidence. And as for the petrification, Yue could probably find something about it with her artifact.
Or...people like Takamichi and Mana (or even Donnet) could clear their names. They showed up in the Magic World. They're just taking too long to appear; now's a good time as any.

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One problem: to communicate with Negi, Nodoka will have to de-summon the book. Hence, all the information that was on the book will probably disappear if she did that.
Ah, that's right. Although, I think Negi would still be able to communicate with his partners. Not sure if it's two-way though. Well, even if it is, the most obvious solution isn't usually what's used, just to raise suspense

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However, just before Fate tried to attack her, Nodoka asked Fate what his "aim" was. Hence, that part could have begun to appear on the books pages as the attack was going on.
That's why I was just wondering how much her book was able to record. She may have asked the question, but Fate was already thinking of something else. So his entry in her book may be incomplete. Probably just a few key words that would cause a reaction.
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Old 2008-10-06, 22:51   Link #2249
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That's why I was just wondering how much her book was able to record. She may have asked the question, but Fate was already thinking of something else. So his entry in her book may be incomplete. Probably just a few key words that would cause a reaction.
Fate's true purpose revealed!!! IT IS... "Don't call me that, I hate my real name. ;_;"
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Old 2008-10-07, 04:42   Link #2250
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Or is Fate the boy from Nagi's group, but Brainwashed and Crazy?
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Old 2008-10-07, 06:44   Link #2251
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Or is Fate the boy from Nagi's group, but Brainwashed and Crazy?
I'd find that overly cliche if that was the case and lose a lot of interest in the story at that point.
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Old 2008-10-07, 12:26   Link #2252
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That's why I was just wondering how much her book was able to record. She may have asked the question, but Fate was already thinking of something else. So his entry in her book may be incomplete. Probably just a few key words that would cause a reaction.
Usually, when Nodoka asks a question to the person whom she's trying to read the thoughts of, both the current thoughts of the targetted person and the information that Nodoka is looking for is recorded on the book's pages (see the times she read the thoughts of Kotarou and Mei). Hence, what we may have seen so far are just the current thoughts of Fate, with the information that Nodoka is looking for being saved until later.
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Old 2008-10-07, 12:42   Link #2253
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Usually, when Nodoka asks a question to the person whom she's trying to read the thoughts of, both the current thoughts of the targetted person and the information that Nodoka is looking for is recorded on the book's pages (see the times she read the thoughts of Kotarou and Mei). Hence, what we may have seen so far are just the current thoughts of Fate, with the information that Nodoka is looking for being saved until later.
I don't think we have enough information about Nodoka's artifact to know its extent. I just assume that it only reads what's on the surface, just like most mind-readers. Kotarou was caught off-guard and Mei just couldn't control her thoughts. Can you simply think of something completely different if asked a question? It's probably difficult, and a person may trick themselves into thinking that they're thinking of something else. Of course, there's always the possibility that Nodoka got something, considering her reaction.
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Old 2008-10-12, 02:12   Link #2254
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Old 2008-10-12, 13:19   Link #2255
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Now I know I might sound like an idiot for saying this now, but Rakan is built like a beast. Now I know thats been pretty obvious, but foir some reason in that one spoiler pick it looks even more apparent.
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Old 2008-10-12, 15:05   Link #2256
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She should be taking a cold shower after all that...
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Old 2008-10-12, 16:16   Link #2257
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Oh come on, I know you were thinking it! Even I was thinking it, and I don't even like Nodoka!
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Old 2008-10-12, 17:02   Link #2258
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing although I am an Asuna fan but Nodoka looked good with Negi there but I still hope that Negi ends up being with Asuna but thet chance seems to get unlikelier vby the minute
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Old 2008-10-12, 17:32   Link #2259
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Oi oi, don't lose hope over just one Nodoka scene.
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Old 2008-10-12, 17:36   Link #2260
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Nah, I prefer Negi/Nodoka, though Akamatsu might leave Negi with Asuna at the end anyway (like on most romance anime), though I still think Negi/Nodoka looks good.
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