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Old 2010-06-07, 12:50   Link #5581
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Yuna's gun i'm thinking is more likely related to her Mom (aka mom's former weapon) given how they keep bring it up recently. If anything I'm expecting one of the unshown minions of Fate will be her killer at this rate.

though seriously incoming internet meme's with the name Fate and homosexual befriending policies....
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Old 2010-06-07, 14:31   Link #5582
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Yuna's gun i'm thinking is more likely related to her Mom (aka mom's former weapon) given how they keep bring it up recently. If anything I'm expecting one of the unshown minions of Fate will be her killer at this rate.

though seriously incoming internet meme's with the name Fate and homosexual befriending policies....
x.x I'd wish they'd kill one of Negis harem girls but I don't think Ken would do such a thing even though he did want Negima to be a dark manga
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Old 2010-06-07, 16:57   Link #5583
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I thought they mixed up that last page in ch 291 and it was suppose to go in the Naruto manga...
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Old 2010-06-07, 17:45   Link #5584
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Then as it progresses, we start to see him becoming more and more sadistic as he faces off against Willheim and Chao.
Negi's a lot of things, but I don't think sadistic has ever been one of them.
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x.x I'd wish they'd kill one of Negis harem girls but I don't think Ken would do such a thing even though he did want Negima to be a dark manga
That's one thing I'd never want to see, not in this series. It just wouldn't be Negima if that happened.
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Old 2010-06-07, 18:29   Link #5585
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x.x I'd wish they'd kill one of Negis harem girls but I don't think Ken would do such a thing even though he did want Negima to be a dark manga
I must admit I wouldn't mind if they killed Anya off, just because:

1) She has done nothing of any actual importance to the storyline at all and it's kinda too late for her to catch up by now.

2) As the childhood friend, her death would be a meaningful indication of Negi having to leave his childhood behind and growing up.

3) Okay, I just hate her bitchy guts, okay? She just treats Negi worse than any other girl, then hides behind the old 'I won't tell him I like him but I won't let him to be with anyone else either' old tired Tsun-Tsun Tsundere crap. Any of the 3-A girls is much more deserving him.

4) She's at the enemy's clutches, at the most dangerous place and lacking Asuna's plot importance or the frontline fighters' power. If there is one deadly place to be at right now, that's it, and if there's someone in risk at a given tight situation, that's her. It just makes sense.
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Old 2010-06-07, 20:39   Link #5586
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I don't think Akamatsu necessarily wanted the manga to be dark, I think he specifically wanted to create a shounen action manga, nothing said about being light-hearted or grim in tone. In any case, I don't expect the manga to become like Berserk or Evangelion, there's just too much lampshade-hanging and tongue in cheek humor for such a shift in tone to be believable.

Spoiler for ch 291:
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Old 2010-06-07, 22:37   Link #5587
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x.x I'd wish they'd kill one of Negis harem girls but I don't think Ken would do such a thing even though he did want Negima to be a dark manga
There are plenty of ways to show a more mature tone to the manga then "lolz one of his friends was killed, its dark and edgy now"
i agree that making it something Berserk-level would be fatally jarring IMHO. We got bloody fights, child experiments, mindrape, etc. I think its good where it is, don't want the series to lose the charm of its humor for "edginess."
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Old 2010-06-08, 02:53   Link #5588
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Chapter 291 really makes me wonder what the theme of the "be yourself" is. (Lol so cliched)
At the beginning of the series, we see an innocent boy.
Then as it progresses, we start to see him becoming more and more sadistic as he faces off against Willheim and Chao.
In the Magic World, he pushes the polarity even further into the Darkness.
And here, he suddenly resolves to rely on his friends. In Negimaverse, that's the Light side.

I'm just not making any connection here.
Is it perhaps the advice from his father prompts him not to be so hellbent on solving things on his own anymore?
Or is he somehow opting to combine light and dark?
Or is the super fast pacing not giving Ken opportunity to explain stuff?

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It's actually quite simple; Negi took the third option and used the light side to support the dark side.

This chapter should just place an "Insert obligatory Nanoha joke" slot; not only does he wants to befriend Fate, he doesn't mind being to monster to make his enemy listen (and surrender, of course). At this rate, next we'll find out that his father's staff is actually a device ... oh God, don't tell me it's the true Key of the Lifemaker?

On a side note, is Yuuna's artifact the big gun or both? The other one seemed like the one from the Mahora Wars
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Old 2010-06-08, 03:41   Link #5589
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i gotta say..... Negi in his innocent motives is managing to get girls falling for him... i mean.... hell even Eva blushed....
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Old 2010-06-08, 10:35   Link #5590
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On a side note, is Yuuna's artifact the big gun or both? The other one seemed like the one from the Mahora Wars
Both. One of them seems to look the same as the one Mahora Wars gun she kept, but the card clearly shows two guns.
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Old 2010-06-08, 12:10   Link #5591
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on page 10 im confused whos on the top left frame in negi's flashes of his pactios, saying "Stupid. You green horn" Looks like Nodoka but I don't remember that chapter x.x
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Old 2010-06-08, 13:50   Link #5592
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It's Chisame. Have you already forgotten her 'Chibi-Chiu-chan' form?
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Old 2010-06-08, 13:55   Link #5593
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Of course I havn't Chisames my favorite next to Nodoka of all the girls, just she looks alot different in that frame x.x
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Old 2010-06-08, 14:44   Link #5594
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Chapter 291 really makes me wonder what the theme of the "be yourself" is. (Lol so cliched)
At the beginning of the series, we see an innocent boy.
Then as it progresses, we start to see him becoming more and more sadistic as he faces off against Willheim and Chao.
In the Magic World, he pushes the polarity even further into the Darkness.
And here, he suddenly resolves to rely on his friends. In Negimaverse, that's the Light side.

I'm just not making any connection here.
Is it perhaps the advice from his father prompts him not to be so hellbent on solving things on his own anymore?
Or is he somehow opting to combine light and dark?
Or is the super fast pacing not giving Ken opportunity to explain stuff?

/rant
I'd say Negi had abandonment issues, and forced himself to be a "good" boy. (For a certain value of "good".) That meant not bringing trouble to others and repressing his negative feelings, in addition to being mature and polite.

Now, he's learnt that his friends won't leave him no matter how much trouble he brings them, or how angry or childish he gets.
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Old 2010-06-08, 23:38   Link #5595
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If Negi manages to get a guy into his harem, then in my mind he's gone beyond pimp and become the ultimate sex god. No one can resist the Springfield charm.
I can see it now, 18 year old negi will be a sex addict xD he'll mess with anything that can walk on 2 feet
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Old 2010-06-08, 23:43   Link #5596
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I can see it now, 18 year old negi will be a sex addict xD he'll mess with anything that can walk on 2 feet
and then Negi was Makoto
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Old 2010-06-09, 00:46   Link #5597
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If you can't beat them, try to draft them; We might see Negima go down the cliched path where the protagonist tries to get the antagonist to join forces in fighting the even larger behind-the-scenes final boss, especially since Fate's not the be-all-end-all...

...but at least kick their ass and get some earned respect before even thinking of being friends...
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Old 2010-06-09, 04:45   Link #5598
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and then Negi was Makoto

seriously.... THAT form he took when it enhanced was not an 18 Y.O.... it was more like early 20's
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Old 2010-06-09, 13:49   Link #5599
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Yue goes yandere and stabs him like Makoto.

Then Nodoka stabs Yue and gets Negi's head (inside a bag) on the boat.

Nice boat...
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Yue goes yandere and stabs him like Makoto.

Then Nodoka stabs Yue and gets Negi's head (inside a bag) on the boat.

Nice boat...
The fate of the 'nice boat'...
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