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Old 2010-12-04, 17:44   Link #6301
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The one who fought Rakan was the same as the current Fate, he just changed his appearance.
I think Thousand Mistress knows that. Presumably she(?) just prefers the older appearance, just as some (lolicons) prefer the loli versions of Chisame and Chacha.
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Old 2010-12-05, 11:41   Link #6302
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I think Thousand Mistress knows that. Presumably she(?) just prefers the older appearance, just as some (lolicons) prefer the loli versions of Chisame and Chacha.
I said insecure because "female" Fate seems to be a little odd. XD
Yes, I prefer the older appearance of Fate...
And yes, I'm a she, judging by my username.

Well, seeing from the current chapter (although it's not released yet), heavy reference from Naruto and Dragon Ball Z. This is really to be expected..

And I wonder how many chapters before the end of the series?
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Old 2010-12-05, 13:15   Link #6303
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Well from what KA said we have another major arc to come after this one. So when you factor in the slice of life etc chapters that usually fit between and lead into the next arc we probably have 10-20 chapters for this arc left + maybe another 100-150? That would be my guess. At least another few years before we see the end of Negima.
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Old 2010-12-06, 03:49   Link #6304
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Even one Fate is already strong enough I dunno whether Negi could beat all of them or not...but if we assume that Tertium is special, perhaps his power is also special...which means, Fate#4-6 might be weaker compare to Tertium. If this happen, we can avoid another future defeat because Negi alone can't stand up against all of them alone
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Old 2010-12-06, 09:39   Link #6305
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Even one Fate is already strong enough I dunno whether Negi could beat all of them or not...but if we assume that Tertium is special, perhaps his power is also special...which means, Fate#4-6 might be weaker compare to Tertium. If this happen, we can avoid another future defeat because Negi alone can't stand up against all of them alone
I hope... Chachamaru is certainly no slouch, and Quartum one-shotted her, so #4-6 clearly have a hell of a lot of firepower to throw around. But if they're all, like Tertium's implied to be, capable of giving a decent fight to the likes of Nagi, might as well end the series right here.

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Old 2010-12-06, 09:50   Link #6306
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I hope... Chachamaru is certainly no slouch, and Quartum one-shotted her, so #4-6 clearly have a hell of a lot of firepower to throw around. But if they're all, like Tertium's implied to be, capable of giving a decent fight to the likes of Nagi, might as well end the series right here.
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Old 2010-12-06, 10:58   Link #6307
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Hmmmm... well, last time we checked back on Earth, Albireo and Eishun were meeting with Eva to discuss the situation. She probably doesn't care all that much and is mostly stuck on campus in any event, but if they're able to get to the action, we could add Nagi in and make it an Ala Rubra reunion tour?

God, now that I've thought of this I want it to happen so badly it burns.

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Old 2010-12-06, 11:25   Link #6308
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I doubt we'll see some Nagi action if we get any till we get to see the reincarnation of Fates master. But Albiero and Eishun might show up and Eva could send a clone if she wanted since shes apparently got super bunshins lol.

Did anyone else think Chisames face on the last page looked a little over the top for her. Looks like a pyscho :P ( Sextum is there but still lol)
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Old 2010-12-06, 12:55   Link #6309
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...so... 3rd is earth, 4th is fire, 5th is wind, 6th is water....

1. What the fuck are 2nd and 1st? I assume 1st is dead, killed by Nagi.

2. HOLY SHIT!!!!! NOW WHAT? ONE FATE WAS KICKING THEIR ASSES, NOW THERE'S 4 OF THEM?
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Old 2010-12-06, 13:01   Link #6310
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...so... 3rd is earth, 4th is fire, 5th is wind, 6th is water....

1. What the fuck are 2nd and 1st? I assume 1st is dead, killed by Nagi.

2. HOLY SHIT!!!!! NOW WHAT? ONE FATE WAS KICKING THEIR ASSES, NOW THERE'S 4 OF THEM?
1. Well, if we go by Captain Planet rules, that would mean either 1st or 2nd had the power to talk to monkeys. I'm assuming he is now dead.

2. I'm getting more and more attached to 'Ala Rubra Rescue Squad'. If Eva, Eishun, and Al are all able to enter the fray, they can take on the new trio while Negi wakes up and fights Tertium. It works!
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Old 2010-12-06, 13:54   Link #6311
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actually dynamis says that he revived the 1st which was the one defeated by Nagi in 311, so chances are that Fate tetrium is just the 1st one revived.
If you re-read the flashback scenes you'll notice that the past Fate teammates in the 'last battle' were fire/lightning/etc.. so I'm leaning towards the 'they are those mooks revived in a standardized form' theory.
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Old 2010-12-06, 14:37   Link #6312
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No, I don't it's Fate's team from the flashback. I think they are all clones of... someone. The Life Maker maybe?
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Old 2010-12-06, 16:55   Link #6313
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KA should have ensured Fate was voiced by a female seiyuu just for that reason. Then she could play all of them. Nana Mizuki is certainly someone who has that kind of range.
Fate Sextum, voiced by Fate Testarossa?

Anyway, I haven't visited this thread in ages, but I thought I'd stop in real quick to say AHHHH! AHHHHHHH! CHACHAMARU! AHHHHH! ....right. She's okay, she's got backups somewhere, I'm overthinking this, I need to stay calm.

On topic, I think the Fates just screwed themselves due to the law of Conservation of Ninjutsu. A dues ex machina is on the way from either Ala Alba, Negi, or Mahora, and we'll get another nice climatic battle while our heroes get a good round of Soft Potions. Or a new body, in Chachamaru's case. (STAYING CALM.) I don't think Nagi is likely; not until Negi is awake to see it, and not until we see who the mysterious hooded figure is. (Still thinking Zect.) Nagi is the grand reveal, and we're not there yet. My money is on Ala Alba, although we might see Keade, Ku-Fei, and Yue put up a bit of a struggle first. And Fate #3 is a wild card now, but again, not until Negi is up and running. I also think Chao is a long shot, but who knows?

And we still haven't seen the last of Setsuna, who might finish her match and show up to protect her Ojou-sama. By the way, are the Fates still on orders not to kill unless strictly necessary? They seemed to waste Chachamaru without hesitation, but they might know it's not fatal, or they don't count her as a person. Either way, they would hardly need to introduce themselves if they planned on dicing up Ala Rubra here and now, which they could have very easily.

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Old 2010-12-06, 16:57   Link #6314
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Old 2010-12-06, 17:12   Link #6315
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The chapter is out, I don't think we need spoiler tags.

1. No way, he didn't even have last words. He's not gonna get taken out that anti-climatically.

2. Didn't think about that, but Fate does come with his own harem. I can see the addition of half a dozen ladies really evening the odds, although as Negi and Co just demonstrated, they really aren't that special.

3. I can't see Tsukuyomi switching. Ever. It's not like she's loyal to the cause, but she's WAAAAAAAAAY too crazy to join up Ala Rubra.
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Old 2010-12-06, 17:13   Link #6316
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Hina's corruption was demonstrated as "visible", as shown in LH and Negima.
And considering what Tsukuyomi told to Negi, it is unlikely for her to be "simply corrupted". In fact, Tsukuyomi is the only character in Negima that you can label as "lawfu evil"... although she would be rather "chaotic evil" due to her lunatic behavior.

Thus, I can't see her switching sides at all. She is the only character that fights with pure murderous intent. She doesn't have any conviction or ideal to follow or protect. In fact, she is potentially the most dangerous antagonist around, personality wise.
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Old 2010-12-06, 17:56   Link #6317
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Yeah... I could see Tsukuyomi switching sides to the forces of good if they promised her more things to kill, but then the forces of good wouldn't be very good, would they? No way is she just 'corrupted'; she's not crazy because she has a demon sword, she has a demon sword because she's crazy.
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Old 2010-12-06, 18:10   Link #6318
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I think waiting for Nagi to show up is kidding ourselves. I just can't see it. Negi waking up now is almost a given, although I still have this horrible feeling it'll take Ku Fei (most likely) and/or Chisame (RAAAAAAGE!!!!) being frozen (if the ground-based Tertium used petrification, then I'm sure Sixtum uses freezing), and I'm praying NOT shattered (being turned into stone is far less fragile than being made into an ice statue) to move him to do it. But then, I don't buy him beating that many Fates.

That's the irking thing about this whole twist. It's stupid. There's no way out without a Deus Ex Machina, or a disappointing anticlimax with weak Fates. Try as much as I want, I just can't see a way for this to be solved without either massive losses or an eye-rolling copout.
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Old 2010-12-06, 22:58   Link #6319
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I think waiting for Nagi to show up is kidding ourselves. I just can't see it. Negi waking up now is almost a given, although I still have this horrible feeling it'll take Ku Fei (most likely) and/or Chisame (RAAAAAAGE!!!!) being frozen (if the ground-based Tertium used petrification, then I'm sure Sixtum uses freezing), and I'm praying NOT shattered (being turned into stone is far less fragile than being made into an ice statue) to move him to do it. But then, I don't buy him beating that many Fates.

That's the irking thing about this whole twist. It's stupid. There's no way out without a Deus Ex Machina, or a disappointing anticlimax with weak Fates. Try as much as I want, I just can't see a way for this to be solved without either massive losses or an eye-rolling copout.
I don't think Ken did a chapter where the Headmaster went specificly to ask Eva, Al and Eishun to help for nothing. So I can see them comins as reinforcement very soon. I would expect at least 2 of Eva/Albiero/Konoemon/Eishun (the same device used in kyoto for eva for instance would make sense, adding that with the current state of the world tree shining she should be at full power, and also that flow is coming exacly from the place negi and co are fighting) to come to help, and add to it Takamichi and Godel as other posibilities, as at least Takamichi hinted he wanted to get there as soon as reinforcements to the fleet could be there.

Of course one can call that a Deus EX but considering the circustances and the foreshadowing, I wouldn't see it as one.
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Old 2010-12-07, 00:37   Link #6320
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Hina's corruption was demonstrated as "visible", as shown in LH and Negima.
And considering what Tsukuyomi told to Negi, it is unlikely for her to be "simply corrupted". In fact, Tsukuyomi is the only character in Negima that you can label as "lawfu evil"... although she would be rather "chaotic evil" due to her lunatic behavior.
Gotta disagree. There are three people currently involved in the storyline that are unquestionably evil.

Dynamis: Lawful evil (and happily so). He's got honor and restraint (a hallmark of lawful anything) but has little problem with performing clearly evil acts (and no urge for altruism). He really defines lawful evil.

Homura: Neutral evil. Sorry, loli fans, but the truth hurts. Blind devotion only goes so far, before one's own nature has to take credit for their actions and desires. Homura not only had little problem intending to burn AA to ashes, she was going to enjoy it. Evil, no question.

Tsukuyomi: Chaotic evil. If WotC ever comes out with a D&D expansion for anime/manga worlds, Tsukuyomi's picture will be next to the definition for chaotic evil. You can't get more chaotic evil than her without being nearly unwritable. She might—just might—have a lawful bone in her body, but it's bound to be one of the smallest of her 202. She's textbook.
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