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Old 2011-01-25, 23:41   Link #6581
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I don't object to the action as a whole. I loved seeing Eva freeze and shatter the demon-god and take down Fate. But let's face it: all the magic she or ANYONE did in the Kyoto arc wouldn't even get anyone through the first ten seconds of a fight nowadays. My objection to the action at present is that they've raised the bar so ludicrously high. Even just at the strength he was at when he entered the Magical World, Negi was a GOD compared to the pathetic little mites that were ordinary mages. The difference in power between a regular mage and the protagonist/antagonist is too extreme. It bugs me.

But no, that's not actually my real problem with the Magical World arc. It's just TOO LONG. The tension of them being trapped in the magical world and all the (many many many) related stresses have stretched out over 130 chapters to the point that I am simply sick of them. Even the lighter chapters they had during this arc have not been as good as if they were back home because they AREN'T home. That sort of tension can only be maintained for so long before it switches to annoyance about how long it's taking for the author to resolve it, and for me that point was about... Oh... sixty chapters ago, give or take.
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Old 2011-01-26, 00:26   Link #6582
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So, Mundus Magicus is the new Namek?
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Old 2011-01-26, 00:47   Link #6583
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Namek takes only for about...10 volume ? If I remember it correctly, it starts at...volume 18 ? D:
As we can see here, Mundus Magicus clearly exceed that
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Old 2011-01-26, 00:54   Link #6584
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The Namek thing is infamous because of the anime; the "five minutes" it took for it to blow up were spread over multiple episodes, if I recall correctly.

At least here, the reason it's taking so long is because new stuff keeps happening, rather than just dragging out one event. I agree that it's dragging now, and Akamatsu should move on, but at least there's been a steady stream of new developments.
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Old 2011-01-26, 05:53   Link #6585
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I figured if I was going to come up with actual thoughts instead of fanfiction I might as well make a post. ...Yeah. Those spoiler tags have those titles for a reason.

Spoiler for 315 Leads to Madness:

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Old 2011-01-26, 07:56   Link #6586
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Chapter 315 makes me realize I don't care about how Negi became so overpowered recently. No, just the big dose of epic awesome here and there, notably for these 2 quotes and the obviously related scenes:

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Old 2011-01-26, 08:26   Link #6587
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Chapter 315 makes me realize I don't care about how Negi became so overpowered recently. No, just the big dose of epic awesome here and there, notably for these 2 quotes and the obviously related scenes:

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Aye, even without looking at the pics, just the translations, I can practically feel the awesomeness

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Old 2011-01-26, 08:32   Link #6588
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^ well, I think SEXtum fared quite well compared to quartum
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Old 2011-01-26, 09:10   Link #6589
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^Yeah, I think the enormous amounts of awesome here override any problems.

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Old 2011-01-26, 10:29   Link #6590
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Merctrin, I think your biggest problem might be a misunderstanding best encapsulated in two of your lines:
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Then Negi loses control of Magia Erebea. Again. After specifically going through training to avoid this.
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Didn’t we already get proof of Negi being awesome after conquering Magia Erebea?
Negi never "conquered Magia Erebea". His "training to avoid this" was only partially successful at best. His conversation with Scroll Eva right before he left Teodora's Resort made that pretty clear, I thought, as did the fact that he was still—until quite recently, actually—wearing the arm coverings. I can see how getting the impression that control of Magia Erebea was no longer an issue may have made his later falterings more frustrating, but to me they were properly foreshadowed. Now, after his latest trip inside his own head, he might have finally resolved it, but I think that his solution to the Magic World problem is going to end up nerfing the hell out of him and rendering ther whole Magia Erebea thing moot, anyway.
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Old 2011-01-26, 12:09   Link #6591
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That's the biggest disadvantage of a multi-genre series, really. Some of us were drawn by the fluffy school moments, some for the harem shenanigans, and some for stuff blowing up, and Akamatsu must juggle between them all. And that's not our fault; the series did promise them all.

Take the latest arc for example. Many wished for it to end quickly and they have the right for it, since there's been less on the factor that drawn them to Negima. Me? I think it's the moment that the series started to actually move from great to awesome, since it's the action that appealed to me most. In fact, I almost gave up this series back during the Kyoto arc only to return when my favorite lil' vampire iced a big damn demon god...

When the arc is finally over and the obligatory breather volume followed, I'm pretty sure I'll be the one wishing for that to end...

Frankly, it's the publishers fault for not letting him do what he want from the first place. Genre shifts are very risky
My thoughts mirror Random Wanderer's. Disliking the current arc DOESN'T mean I want to go back to the so-so cliched comedy of the first two volumes. But Mundus Magicus is just pushing the envelope too far in the opposite direction.
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Old 2011-01-26, 13:53   Link #6592
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Merctrin, I think your biggest problem might be a misunderstanding best encapsulated in two of your lines:


Negi never "conquered Magia Erebea". His "training to avoid this" was only partially successful at best. His conversation with Scroll Eva right before he left Teodora's Resort made that pretty clear, I thought, as did the fact that he was still—until quite recently, actually—wearing the arm coverings. I can see how getting the impression that control of Magia Erebea was no longer an issue may have made his later falterings more frustrating, but to me they were properly foreshadowed. Now, after his latest trip inside his own head, he might have finally resolved it, but I think that his solution to the Magic World problem is going to end up nerfing the hell out of him and rendering ther whole Magia Erebea thing moot, anyway.
That's bad phrasing on my part. I sort of expected him to lose control at some point, because I agree there was foreshadowing, it's just the way that it was done that's getting on my nerves. For me, his latest faltering with it is frustrating more because it happens 15 chapters after the end of his training than because it felt resolved. ...It probably doesn't help that some of those chapters were spent in a dreamworld.

I suppose the way to put it would be that the sudden, very serious issue of having Negi incapacitated seemed really out of place. It's dramatic enough that it feels like it should have been put later in the final battle, not during the early parts of it.

Spoiler for 315:

All in all I'm probably not going to mind any of this much at all when the official volumes come out, but right now it feels like things could have been handled better.

ETA: And I guess I didn't get it across very well, but personally, I think my biggest problem is that Quartum feels like a pointless character to me. How that led to me ranting about everything I have the vaguest problem with... uh. I'm still not sure.

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Old 2011-01-26, 18:23   Link #6593
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So... odds on Sextum joining the harem?

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Disliking the current arc DOESN'T mean I want to go back to the so-so cliched comedy of the first two volumes. But Mundus Magicus is just pushing the envelope too far in the opposite direction.
I agree. The earliest stuff wasn't that enjoyable, and I don't think we should go back just to that, but there seemed to be a good balance during the summer vacation chapters, before everyone headed off to Wales. Taken together with the school festival storyline, I think it worked just about perfectly in balancing the intense drama and action with a breather period. The Magic World has pushed things much further and much longer, though, and I feel the balance has shifted too far in the wrong direction.
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Old 2011-01-27, 08:26   Link #6594
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So... odds on Sextum joining the harem?
I'm gonna say 3:1 against.
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Old 2011-01-27, 09:18   Link #6595
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I'm gonna say 3:1 against.
This is manga we're talking about, the higher the odds the greater the chance of it happening. It's like a reversal of the laws of gambling.
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Old 2011-01-27, 10:16   Link #6596
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Well he's already stripped her (and made her blush in the process) so she's following the track for it.
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Old 2011-01-27, 15:07   Link #6597
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I'd be more surprised if Sextum doesn't join the harem. I don't think there's been a women who's totally immune to the Springfield charm. And more ridiculous things have happened in the manga like, for example, anything Jack Rakan does.
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Old 2011-01-27, 16:28   Link #6598
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If we weren't so close to the final battle, I'd say it was certain, but as it is I don't know if we have enough time to get her develop feelings for him. If there's another arc after this one it's possible.

Although I'd kinda like to see her fall for somebody else (like maybe Kotaro) just to throw the readers for a loop. And probably confuse Chisame.
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Old 2011-01-27, 16:32   Link #6599
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....I personally enjoyed the series from the very beginning and I have never found it dull. However, I definitely got more interested once the series became more action oriented and plot driven. For me, the series moved from very good to something special after the poignant resolution of the Mahora tournament (the brief father-son reunion)
Same thing for me.
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Old 2011-01-28, 03:50   Link #6600
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OH MY EFFING GOD at the RAW of the chapter. Negi...holy crap Negi. And I thought he handed Tsukuyomi a real smackdown a while back, but clearly I hadn't seen anything yet.
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