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Old 2012-03-11, 00:04   Link #8301
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You know, I wonder what will happen if there's a side-story / after-story series in the (distant) future. Will people read it, after all the rage
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Old 2012-03-11, 00:07   Link #8302
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What an disappointing ending, Akamatsu did an wonderful series only to screw-up the ending.

And Chisame, my favorite girl, had the shittiest of all endings. Hikikomori, wtf. I share the hate in this thread. That was the worst ending I have ever seen.

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You know, I wonder what will happen if there's a side-story / after-story series in the (distant) future. Will people read it, after all the rage
If it wraps up a few plot points, I would certainly read it. But I won't bother buying Negima mangas anymore, thank you.
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Old 2012-03-11, 00:16   Link #8303
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Maybe it should just be a "don't expect decent endings out of Shonen Magazine"?

Because I'm getting massive School Rumble vibes from this trainwreck.

Anybody have any idea what they're saying about the ending-that-ain't on 2chan or Japanese fansites?
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Old 2012-03-11, 00:18   Link #8304
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Anybody have any idea what they're saying about the ending-that-ain't on 2chan or Japanese fansites?
^ Same question, really interested.
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Old 2012-03-11, 01:15   Link #8305
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Well, the ending wasn't as painful as I had expected, probably because my expectations were super low. Considering Ken's situation, I'd say it ended pretty well.

Some of the things I didn't like:
-Sudden appearance of Nagi, and off-screen resolution of Life-Maker arc.
-No mention of Negi's partner. But, we know for sure that Negi's partner wasn't Nodoka or Yue. There aren't many things worse than drowning with the sinking ship. And all of them sunk hard. Wait, I guess we have NegixFate still available. They are even seen together in one frame.
-Negi's Mom not present with Nagi. In fact, no mention of her at all. Since Nagi appeared, I expected at least a line from the dad, but we got nil.
-Hikkikomori end for Chisame. WTF Ken, wtf. This was probably the worst part of the ending. As many mentioned already, she deserved much better.

Things I liked:
-Color open, colored nekkid grown-up Yui.
-Grown up versions of the cast and how they ended up. But some of the physical growth in the characters are a bit jarring, considering they were already already graduated middle school, especially the twins.
-KonokaxSetsuna end. Not definite, but pretty likely, and that's good enough for me.
-Chachamaru got an especially nice end.

I'd be very happy if we get some kind of sequal/spin-off. The Magical Detective Yue! sounds good right now.
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Old 2012-03-11, 01:51   Link #8306
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So Negima finally ends........but there are still some questions they have yet to be explained:
*What happen to Fate and his minions?
*What about Nekane, Anya and Arika?
*Did Takamichi and Shizuna get married?
*Is Mei Sakura related with Naru Narusegawa?
*Who is The Master of the Grave?
*And finally, who was the girl that Negi choose to be with?

Hopefully, the last GN will contain extras about that. Thank you Ken Akamatsu for creating one of the most greatest mangas i ever read. Here's hoping they may do a proper Negima anime in future(if posisble). Goodbye Negima, it was fun reading the series.
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Old 2012-03-11, 02:37   Link #8307
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Fate is seen in the background with Negi. It can reasonably be assumed he's hanging around and helping with Negi's projects. Fate's girls are missing, though.
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Old 2012-03-11, 03:14   Link #8308
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-Hikkikomori end for Chisame. WTF Ken, wtf. This was probably the worst part of the ending. As many mentioned she deserved much better.
She still got her place as Negi's special advisor though I must say that her epilogue placed her as one of the girls who are very close to Negi right now.

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I think I've seen it somewhere before in his interview that she only shared similar character design...
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Old 2012-03-11, 04:49   Link #8309
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I'm glad I'm not really a fan and only followed it loosely sometime after the magic world arc started. Otherwise I would be even more angry. I feel like I wasted all those years reading it.
Not only did Asuna not win, and she's like the poster girl, one of the few people to have any noteworthy development and relationships with him, he didn't end up with anyone and basically every single important plot thread was left unresolved or solved off-screen.

This is piss-poor.
Off to the shit list with you, Akamatsu.
That's right, there. Right next to CLAMP.

This is terrible enough to be on xxxHolic's level. Though I'm not sure which ending was worse.
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Old 2012-03-11, 06:24   Link #8310
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Fate is seen in the background with Negi. It can reasonably be assumed he's hanging around and helping with Negi's projects. Fate's girls are missing, though.
Or that the OTP is Negi x Fate. Yuck.
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Old 2012-03-11, 06:33   Link #8311
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Or that the OTP is Negi x Fate. Yuck.
YES! YES! Everything is all right now.
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Old 2012-03-11, 07:06   Link #8312
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Biggest ball buster for me was the main drive and really the entire purpose of the manga, i.e Negi finding his dad and it's solved off camera so to speak. "Abracadabra, make Nagi appear." Look, he's been found...
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Old 2012-03-11, 07:45   Link #8313
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It is probably because of the movie, but the ending didn't leave me such a bitter taste than I was expecting. In fact, the chapter itself is pretty good, if only Akamatsu didn't use such shortcut, timeskip and offscreen points prior this one.

A lot of details are still loose, but I definitely did feel some "conclusion" through this ending, unlike the movie.

A disappointment? Most likely, but the series itself did deliver for years, so branding the whole franchise into a failure because of the last part of it is a bit far fetched to me.
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This is terrible enough to be on xxxHolic's level. Though I'm not sure which ending was worse.
Now that's some gross exaggeration. Holic has an "ending" that basically isn't any. Past being open, it just leaves -everything- to speculation, from Watanuki's stance to things like the egg.

Negima has a closure, however rushed it is. It might be as "frustrating", but by no means both endings are on the same category.
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Old 2012-03-11, 07:49   Link #8314
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If anything, this ending is more like School Rumble ending than holic's ending
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Old 2012-03-11, 08:46   Link #8315
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Aaah... good thing I have ceased to hope anything for this series. But the ending really has fallen below even my expectation :/ Well at least there is KotaNatsu and implied NegiChisame

But, I think it's rather unfair to blame it entirely to Ken. I personally can't read Japanese, but those who and have been following his twitter and the news should already know that he has been struggling under the shadow of Kodansha who has never stopped at forcing them drawing fanservices. I don't claim to know the whole thing, but that sounds bad enough.

I initially liked Negima since I'm into SS, and it did have the potential to be really good, and I can see that Ken indeed tried his best under the condition he was in while working on this series. I just hope that one of his future work will feature SS ;p be really fleshy without being under restrictions of movement.
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Old 2012-03-11, 09:26   Link #8316
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I liked the actual ending of the series, which to my mind was when Asuna was reunited with Negi and her classmates. I had even been a bit misty-eyed when it looked like she had returned too late and would never see them again. If Akamatsu had just ended it with the reunion, I probably would have been happy.

Now, the last two published chapters were quite disappointing. After all that build up for who Negi likes, Akamatsu coped out in the end and did not answer the question and Negi ends up with no one. The chapter about Yue seemed more like filler than an actual wrap up of a 350+ chapter manga. Some of the character wrap ups in the last chapter had me going "WTF!?", too. In particular, Chisame's ending seemed to totally undo every bit of the quite extensive character develop she went through in the story. I was also very disappointed to read that Konoka and Setsuna each married someone? What happened to hundreds of chapters of their blatantly yuri relationship? Truly disappointing.

Overall, it was a great series that I totally enjoyed, but it really seemed to collapse at the very end with those couple of weak ending chapters, like Akamatsu was tired of the whole thing and just wanted to get it over with.
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Old 2012-03-11, 09:53   Link #8317
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Why are you misled by the not so subtle description of Setsuna and Konoka's marriage?
Both "conveniently" get wed the very same year, Setsuna using all her savings for a ship and there were no guy introduced at all, be it before or during the epilogue.
Akamatsu basically confirmed rock solid that both had engaged to each other, but couldn't spell it completely due to the obvious problems, publication wise.
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Old 2012-03-11, 09:58   Link #8318
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And Chisame, my favorite girl, had the shittiest of all endings. Hikikomori, wtf. I share the hate in this thread. That was the worst ending I have ever seen.
I actually kind of like that ending. Mostly because I'm one of those people who doesn't believe in the fact that magical adventures and stuff can really affect your future (after all, she's still working behind in the scenes, so it wasn't a total downer). Plus I still remember the pain of that ending in the second season of Digimon. Did they all have to have high-power jobs?

As for people's complaints on the ending, I won't lie that I would have liked to have actually seen stuff like Nagi getting saved or who Negi actually chose (if he did). But I notice a lot of people complaining about explanation on minor stuff, like why Ako has a scar. Does that need to be explained? It sort of reminds me of that X-files movie. It explains a lot, but it ends up making a very uninteresting watch (or read in this case) in return.
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Old 2012-03-11, 10:00   Link #8319
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The other point is that Chisame is self conscious regarding her "hikki" status, yet it isn't like she dislike that. The proof of that is that She was unaffected by Poyo's Magical Circus of illusion ability, and was basically as "happy" as Makie, which says a tons of things.

Furthermore, the fact Chisame is "shut in" doesn't mean she doesn't stay in touch with everyone else, although remeber that while she was a comrade among the Ala Alba, it doesn't mean she has a "textbook" friend among the group, except perhaps the likes of Chachamaru.
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Old 2012-03-11, 10:07   Link #8320
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But, I think it's rather unfair to blame it entirely to Ken. I personally can't read Japanese, but those who and have been following his twitter and the news should already know that he has been struggling under the shadow of Kodansha who has never stopped at forcing them drawing fanservices. I don't claim to know the whole thing, but that sounds bad enough.
I really wish the people that are bashing him would at least remember this. He's not a terrible author, because otherwise we wouldn't be so invested in the story and characters up to this point.
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