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Old 2008-05-29, 20:09   Link #1801
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Oh, I agree we have a different opinion, but the fact that their relationship is subject to opinion means its vague. I mean, compare it to Nodoka: We know Nodoka loves Negi, nobody is saying its a sisterly love. On the subject of Asuna, opinions are varied (subject to bias, as you say) which means their relationship is vague.

Untill the Word of God arives all we can do is stand by our opinions. And perhaps debate them if we feel like it.
Again, that's a difference in opinion. To you, it seems that their relationship is vague and open to interpretation unless the Word of God (I love TVTropes) says otherwise. To me, it has already spoken through the Love Chart as well as from what I get from the manga that Asuna's feelings towards Negi is obviously familial (highest in that category out of all the girls) and not vague at all.

I think the only thing among romantic obstacles that's harder to get out of than the Friend Zone is the Like Family Zone. That is a pretty big roadblock on romantic progression. And I don't think we should go there.

Great, now you got me throwing tropes around. Now I can't stop applying them when I talk about the manga.
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Old 2008-05-30, 01:47   Link #1802
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Ok...this is gonna sound like a seriously messed up theory, but:
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Wrong! Albeiro is Negi's mother.

...

Oh shi-
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Old 2008-06-03, 04:44   Link #1803
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...WHAAT1?!?

Al Imma is Negi's Mother?! Impossible! Al's a man! O_O

Eva is a possible choice with her adult form and all
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Old 2008-06-03, 04:45   Link #1804
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Which part of "magic" didn't you understand?
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Old 2008-06-03, 08:00   Link #1805
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And a guy with that many dead Pactio Cards. Gotta kill old partners to keep his secret and make new ones.
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Old 2008-06-03, 08:13   Link #1806
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At least now we know why the Thousand Master did a runner. He must have found what was in Al's basement.
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Old 2008-06-03, 09:35   Link #1807
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Negi came with the contract as a packaged deal.

Both were made on the same night.

Kissy kissy.

Pactio pactio.

Censored censored.

Pretty convenient.

Oh wait... what the heck am I saying?
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Old 2008-06-03, 15:25   Link #1808
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Negi came with the contract as a packaged deal.

Both were made on the same night.

Kissy kissy.

Pactio pactio.

Censored censored.

Pretty convenient.

Oh wait... what the heck am I saying?

I'm going to need a better explanation then that to believe something so outlandish happened.
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Old 2008-06-04, 06:19   Link #1809
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Again, that's a difference in opinion. To you, it seems that their relationship is vague and open to interpretation unless the Word of God (I love TVTropes) says otherwise. To me, it has already spoken through the Love Chart as well as from what I get from the manga that Asuna's feelings towards Negi is obviously familial (highest in that category out of all the girls) and not vague at all.

I think the only thing among romantic obstacles that's harder to get out of than the Friend Zone is the Like Family Zone. That is a pretty big roadblock on romantic progression. And I don't think we should go there.

Great, now you got me throwing tropes around. Now I can't stop applying them when I talk about the manga.
... I probably shouldn't, but a lack of Negima makes me want to pick this up again.

I want my negima dammit! >_<


Anyway, like I said before, the fact that their relationship is vague is hardly subject to opinion. The simple fact that their relationship is discussed means that it is not sure. If their relationship was sure, it would be a fact and not up for debate. Since it isn't, its vague.

To me, its quite clear that this will end up in a Negi/Asuna ending. A combination of the First Girl Wins and First Kiss happening quite rapidly. There was also the Not A Date with Asuna, and lets not mention the constant He's Not My Boyfriend!-like yells Asuna keeps throwing around, and the Hands on Aproach Negi needs to explain things to Asuna (like the vision to his past). Asuna also used a variation of The Glomp in the latest chapters. One could also argue that they are subject to the Battle Couple trope, especially with the whole 'training with Eva' arc.

.... Yeah, I'm bored aren't I?
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Old 2008-06-04, 10:56   Link #1810
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To me, its quite clear that this will end up in a Negi/Asuna ending. A combination of the First Girl Wins
With at least 4 girls pretending for that title, not just Asuna...

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and First Kiss happening quite rapidly.
First "plot" kiss - yes. First "real" kiss is Nodoka... And so on at least on half of other tropes... And with Ken said something about "the pairing in the end which was not obvious at first" Asuna chances are much lower than it seems from manga... Nodoka's too though. Yue or Chisame? Anna? Or somebody else? Heh... At least i hope it wouldn't be Kotaro!
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Old 2008-06-04, 11:49   Link #1811
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With at least 4 girls pretending for that title, not just Asuna...
You can scatch Anya, she occupies the Childhood Friend branche (whether good or bad remains to be seen, but Childhood Friends generally end up unlucky when introduced late). His elder sister has such a small role I think it's safe to say we can rule her out as well (would be a major plottwist though ) which leaves us with Asuna and Konoka, and the one whom he first spoke to was Asuna.

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First "plot" kiss - yes. First "real" kiss is Nodoka... And so on at least on half of other tropes... And with Ken said something about "the pairing in the end which was not obvious at first" Asuna chances are much lower than it seems from manga... Nodoka's too though. Yue or Chisame? Anna? Or somebody else? Heh... At least i hope it wouldn't be Kotaro!
Actually, its only more recently that Asuna became a serious contestant. With Takamichi's rejection all the subtext suddenly became more then subtext, which ties into Ken's words.

though Kotaro... XD I'd pay gold to see Kotaru and Negi form a Pactio!
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Old 2008-06-04, 12:10   Link #1812
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Actually, its only more recently that Asuna became a serious contestant. With Takamichi's rejection all the subtext suddenly became more then subtext, which ties into Ken's words.
Ehmmm... They were shipped by fandom from the start because Asuna ~= Naru from Love Hina... And Akamatsu clearly stated by word and deed that the last thing he want is second LH. + he played with "harem" and "shounen" stereotypes more than once - so i wouldn't drop any of girls until the end.

PS. I actually really hope that Negi will "play Tenchi" and get at least two... Nodoka has a right mind in this one.

PPS. With my favorite shipping in Nanoha as "Yuno + Nanoha AND Fate" and Tenchi OVA as one of my favorite series... is something wrong with me?
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Old 2008-06-04, 12:18   Link #1813
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Oh, I'm not dropping them completely, but to me the course the manga is steering at seems more and more Negi/Asuna to me. Not the least of which the amount of links that exist between the two. But then, I love deep links between characters.

And there is nothing wrong with NanoYuuFate. But NanoYuuFateHaya is better.

So far Negi's harem has Nodoka, Yue and Chachamaru for sure. Asuna in my opinion as well, and Chisame and Anya are homing in too.

Hoo boy.
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Old 2008-06-04, 17:14   Link #1814
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Anya was introduced early - before he ever left for Japan.

And I want a harem ending. Embrace the pimp side of the harem lead, Negi!
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Old 2008-06-04, 18:26   Link #1815
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Spoiler for chapter 215:
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Old 2008-06-04, 19:29   Link #1816
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Anya was introduced early - before he ever left for Japan.

And I want a harem ending. Embrace the pimp side of the harem lead, Negi!
I can actually still see this happening. Even if he does end up with one, the class will still jump him (Anya included, trying to keep them away).

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Old 2008-06-05, 02:47   Link #1817
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You can scatch Anya, she occupies the Childhood Friend branche (whether good or bad remains to be seen, but Childhood Friends generally end up unlucky when introduced late). His elder sister has such a small role I think it's safe to say we can rule her out as well (would be a major plottwist though ) which leaves us with Asuna and Konoka, and the one whom he first spoke to was Asuna.
RAAAGE.

The 4 main girls are Asuna, Nodoka, Setsuna and Konoka.

Not Anya, Sis, Asuna and Konoka.

Oh, and it seems that Ala Rubra's filled with pervs.

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Old 2008-06-05, 13:03   Link #1818
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Oh wow, a challenger appears...
Spoiler for Ch 215:

Negima needs Chao again
Or more Konoka with glasses.
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Old 2008-06-05, 13:17   Link #1819
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Oh wow, a challenger appears...
Spoiler for Ch 215:
Oh yes indeed.
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Old 2008-06-05, 13:26   Link #1820
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To me, its quite clear that this will end up in a Negi/Asuna ending. A combination of the First Girl Wins and First Kiss happening quite rapidly. There was also the Not A Date with Asuna, and lets not mention the constant He's Not My Boyfriend!-like yells Asuna keeps throwing around, and the Hands on Aproach Negi needs to explain things to Asuna (like the vision to his past). Asuna also used a variation of The Glomp in the latest chapters. One could also argue that they are subject to the Battle Couple trope, especially with the whole 'training with Eva' arc.

.... Yeah, I'm bored aren't I?
But you're forgetting one thing: He's 10 years old. The entire point of many of those situations is that any interaction between any other characters in any other manga instantly spells out "love interest", but since Negi's still completely pre-pubescent all of said stereotypes are thrown out the window.
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