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Old 2003-11-19, 22:57   Link #41
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do u live in a predomintaly jew area? i do, and when theres a lot, they look down on everyone else. I hear "oh you eat dogs right?" everyday from them.

SORRY I LIKE TO BELIEVE EVERYONE IS NICE AND LOVING BUT THATS NOT TRUE. i never said ALL ppl are like that, but the ppl that get away with racism.


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Old 2003-11-19, 23:26   Link #42
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Zorro, its sad that your so narrow minded. It may be because of your youth and you cant see things from another point of view rather than your own. I'm not trying to say that there isnt racism in the US, but you seem to act like it exists only there.

Take into consideration that the US is one of the most advanced multi-cultural countries in the world. Also take into consideration that all this happened in about a 50 year time period, can u not understand why people are upset? imagine if all the white people decided to up and leave the US and live in korea. How would you feel about that change? Not only that, but we refused to learn the korean language and only spoke english. I would imagine that everyone would treat us even worse than how u are being treated here in the US.

Also, dont treat it like whites dont get racism either. Your american just like me and i get the same treatment back from asians. Ex: The 2 asian women that i've dated, their parents were completley against the partnership. I recieved a lot of rude comments and eventually had to break it off because they were getting hassled by their parents. Although asians arent as upfront with the comments and expressions, you feel the same way about us. Whats worse, is that i'm receiving this treatment in the country that I grew up in. =P
u wanna know why asians dont allow white men to marry their daughter??
because the native in south america were nearly COMPLETELY wiped out by white intermarriage. (Thats where u get the hispanics) btw asian parents do the samething with the men of their own race. If they dont like the partner of their child they get LOTS of trouble. Im sorry my ex-gf's dad didnt like me cuz i was dating his fav daugther. Yea we were both korean. i also mentioned i believed koreans are more racists than they should be, i dont deny this. But hell, koreans have gone thru alot in the past 1000 yrs. America got just about everything they wanted.

uh.... sorry i took AP history last yr and my history teacher even said specifically, almost all text book would say "america killed so and so much innocent ppl" it wouldnt say things like "the american brutually cut of the breats of indian women, and fed it to their childeren" (of course tats a slight exageration) while of course u see "Hitler put jews in gas chambers, burned them, etc etc" It briefly goes over it, otherwise i wouldnt know about it right? (My AP teacher went deeply into it since he is japanese, and feels the sting of american racism)

i love to cite, but i dont even remember where most of these are from. And i also said many of the racism was from complete personal expierence of myself and others. I mean if you live in CA or NY, or other giant multi-cultrual cities u know its a rather "non-racists" place, and that where i live. So maybe not being "outside" may be the reason why im more "mad" about it. But i mean hearing things like "i bet he's a spy" or things like "didnt u guys bomb pearl harbor" or "how can u guys eat dogs? u know they are kind animals" and its so often that they just walk away saying this even with the police around and nothing happens. And if i happen to say something like "oh yea all texans have guns" id get arrested for racial slur, and its even worse if i said something about black ppl. Of course if i go on saying things about mexicans the police would laugh.

also explain this: if someone is walking and gets jumped... he got jumped.
but if its a white grl tat got jumped and mugged its on the news
if its a black person its a hate crime.
all of this will be shown on jewish media. (joking again, my jewish friend is laughing in the back, he told me to add that one)
i mean media is biased....

how many presidents have u seen that are not white protestant? oh wait kennedy was catholic... but hes white right?

CA government: ppl used the fact that Arnold's grandpa was in NAzi Austria agaisnt him... i mean come on!

white ppl going in korea by the flocks... hmm yea try tat. Its already densly populated, ud be more uncomfortable. But korea trys to attract as much foreigners as it can. Asians typically like foreigners until they go out with their daughters. Just dont touch asian grls, their dads dont like it. (Hell they dont like it when any guy goes out with them) also this hasnt happened has it? so how can u judge wat the korean response will be?? i can judge cuz it happened in the US.

50 yrs of immigration... ure kidding right?
frst chinese came in during the late 1800s
koreans and japanese came in early 1900s
i dont even know when the hispanics came in
Irish, german, and other europeans are here as early as early 1800s
seems to me almost 200 yr of immigration, and NOT ONE OF THEM WAS WELCOMED.
btw the irish and german immgrants... the next generation they were against immigration... yea tats nice.

All of u are acting like im saying all white ppl are racists. If you read my post it clearly says that white ppl can generally get away with racism, not that they are all actually racists. Please read. (if its not like that, i meant it that way)

ALSO i support the US government. Im one of the few here in CA that support Bush. I dont care whether or not Hussein has WMD, if theirs a slight chance, im pro-war. Even if its 1%, cuz im not risking the lives of anyone thats innocent. Ppl can say all they want that bush is an idiot cuz we have yet to find the weapons, but if there was some and he didnt go to war, wat would u say if Israel, Saudi Arabia, Iran were all of a sudden nuked? better to not take the chance right?

of course US history books are not the only one written by americans, so i was talking about history books in general not just US. and middle school doesnt even go into the the 20th century, so i dont know wat state ure from, but here in CA middle school US history stops at 1910. (the teachers barely get passed the civil war tho) As for high school, i took AP which is a college level course an a college book. So i dont know wat the high school gets.

BTW: tell me if this doesnt get u pissed off "white man's burden" (the song goes on to say "we have to teach those savages) it makes me feel so good. The fact that these white ppl thought of us as inferior stupid beings, and now stereotypes us as engineers of 20000 IQs. Honestly things like this dont go away for a 1000 yrs, and when this is taught to me as something that happened only about 200 yrs ago, it kinda ticks me off. Id like to go back in time and smack them. I know ppl changed, but i still hear things behind my back. Being from CA i understand insults in russian, german, french, spanish. and of course english. I dont like being called a commy, or a chincky terroist.
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Old 2003-11-19, 23:51   Link #43
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in case u didnt know:

all white countries are racists. the whites have been asshole racists since they first met different ppl
They started w/ the jews, then the turks, blacks, asians, hispanics, now muslims and other arab/persian race.

today certain ppl can get away with racism:
Jews cause they own everything. You dont believe me?? Theyre head in gov.
Whites: cause they still think they're better
blacks: cuz they were slaves they think they can make fun of everyone else, and the whites let them.

Its no surprise US is racist, same with Europe.
the only countries that are western and are generally nice to foriegners are: Canada, Australia, and MAYBE England.
I completely agree with you here. White countries have been racists and continue to stay so for the longest period of time. They find new enemies every single time when some country doesnt want to do what the white countries tell them to do. America is a prime exsample of this. Notice how America always gets what they want, no matter how many lives they have to kill.
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Old 2003-11-20, 00:42   Link #44
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All of u are acting like im saying all white ppl are racists. If you read my post it clearly says that white ppl can generally get away with racism, not that they are all actually racists. Please read. (if its not like that, i meant it that way)
Thats fine.. then why did u say this? --->

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all white countries are racists. the whites have been asshole racists since they first met different ppl
They started w/ the jews, then the turks, blacks, asians, hispanics, now muslims and other arab/persian race.
I'm not sure if i should even argue anymore, not sure you really understand what you are saying.
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Old 2003-11-20, 00:58   Link #45
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Thats fine.. then why did u say this? --->



I'm not sure if i should even argue anymore, not sure you really understand what you are saying.
white COUNTRIES. yea difference... between countries and ppl. last time i checked white ppl can be as individual as Little John from down the street, while countries cant be anymore individual from America, Germany etc.

tell me a great unracist white country... hard to find right? i mean good ol' england is the closest. But i bet u can name quite alot of white ppl that are not racists right?

its not that i dont know wat im saying, its that the way i write must be too hard for u. i guess i have to be REALLY REALLY simple. How did u do in literature classes?
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Old 2003-11-20, 01:27   Link #46
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white COUNTRIES. yea difference... between countries and ppl. last time i checked white ppl can be as individual as Little John from down the street, while countries cant be anymore individual from America, Germany etc.

tell me a great unracist white country... hard to find right? i mean good ol' england is the closest. But i bet u can name quite alot of white ppl that are not racists right?

its not that i dont know wat im saying, its that the way i write must be too hard for u. i guess i have to be REALLY REALLY simple. How did u do in literature classes?

How can you possibly judge someone elses english when yours terrible. Its not a matter of explainging things simply, its a matter of accually using correct english. Your a moron, plain and simple. Everything u say makes korean people look even more idiotic and i find it sad that you are their representation on this forum.

Also, you didnt just say, "white countries". You also said this,
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the whites have been asshole racists since they first met different ppl
They started w/ the jews, then the turks, blacks, asians, hispanics, now muslims and other arab/persian race.
Perhaps your the one that should go back to grade school and brush up on your reading and writing skills.
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Old 2003-11-20, 01:47   Link #47
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How can you possibly judge someone elses english when yours terrible. Its not a matter of explainging things simply, its a matter of accually using correct english. Your a moron, plain and simple. Everything u say makes korean people look even more idiotic and i find it sad that you are their representation on this forum.

Also, you didnt just say, "white countries". You also said this,
Perhaps your the one that should go back to grade school and brush up on your reading and writing skills.
uh.. white country: then i said whites. u want me to continually say white country for ur convienence?

or should i use proper grammar on a internet forum where no one wil grade me? sorry i dont like to waste my time. i gotta go do my college essays... oh wait but im only 16... hmmmmmmmmm........

wait so u blame me for stereotyping by putting actual facts of the things white people have done and u stereotype korean ppl from one person's posts tat u dont agree with!? WOW if thats not hypocrytical tell me wat is.
Yea i love how u like to make fun of Korea which is probably 2nd highest technological place on earth... and catching up to Japan at such speed its hard to run away from it. btw did u see the latest korean sat stats? average is 1400 so yea, dont even go there.

btw i didnt say ur english is bad, nor did i say ure stupid. Different ppl interpret different things, some ppl need simpler more precise explanation. I never said ur mind is simple, so before u insult ppl understand wat theyre trying to say. If im so young whos the one being an immature person? Youre so high and old and mature and a wise person why dont u be a good example? u just made urself a hypocrite and u also misunderstood me and thought i called u simple minded. Yea... sorry maybe i shouldnt apply everything i learn in classes here. When i said simpler i merely meant having to write in just plain english, or completely formal english (blame my english teacher in 8th grade, she always said "simple english please") im using internet english, in other words im trying to keep my LONG posts short. repeating "white country" all the time is kinda annoying, so i say whites. easier no? Just like when i refer to Benjamin Franklin, after i say it once its just franklin.

btw watch out what u say about koreans, there are a lot of them here on animesuki, one of the most popular audience japanese anime gets is korean.

in the end u are a hypocritcal fool. Sorry i respected you before ur last post.

grade school? i love it. I didnt even go to grade school in america... ive been here less than 10 yrs and im in a college level english course. so if you dont know, dont say bs. also why do u flame? is it fun for ppl like u?

youve also supported my fact tat ppl like u exist saying bs like "asians are stupid" and such. Wats worse is that in this forum u spoke so strongly against me saying white countries have been racists, u have proven urself the most racist person here. IT makes it worse for u if ure white doesnt it?

so i guess u have a thing to think about.
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Old 2003-11-20, 05:12   Link #48
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lol congrat, you took 3 lines out of the subject to resume an article which you obviously didn't even read more than a paragraph, knowing that it didn't even talk about an illegal imigrant.
But make my day give me one important fact that the writer ignored.


Retarded argument.
How many attacks have there been in the U.S before the 9/11?
How many attacks have there been in other country which suffer of the terrorism but which don't follow the same policy?

There isn't terrorism attack until the next one.
If this kind of policy worked, that would make a long time that there would be no more attack in Israel.

Thank to prove once again that you don't bother to read the article before answering.
O.K you got me. I read the first page but I felt it was supposed to be an emotionaly manipulative piece of crap so I only skimmed the rest of it. But yes the artical talks a lot about ilegal immigrants but casually dismisses the fact that they are illegal as if it's not important and focuses on the fact that certain illegal people are picked on more than others and somehow we are supposed to feel sorry for them because they're "such good people". I don't blame them for wanting to stay, and don't care either way if they do stay or go. But don't tell me just because some guy works at 7-Eleven and ask about a cops well being, or wears a shirt with the Statue of Liberty that somehow it's wrong to hold them accountable to the law. Maybe it's "unfair" to pick on one minority over another, but we arn't talking about not leting them eat in certain resturants or drink out of certain fountains. They are breaking the law. Maybe making them all register was dishonest, but so is staying in a country after your visa runs out. (I know im beating a dead horse with this line, but I think its the only point that really matters..)

Maybe my point about the number of attacks since 9/11 and policy changes was kind of retarded, we don't know if the change stopped anything or not, we unlikly will ever know until it fails/ if it fails. But comparing comparing the situation in America with Israel Palestinian relations is pretty retarded too, the circumstances are completly different.
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Old 2003-11-20, 08:53   Link #49
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btw this is by stats. Sorry u didnt know this, but it was not only surveyed in the 1940s, it was EXPIERENCED by more than enough ppl. Want examples?
No, actually I know I'v seen the surveys and I'v heard the tales. But that was as you say in the 1940's this is 2004.


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racism will go on forever, cuz its even taught in schools. Open up a history book, does it talk about the horrors of the american genocide of the indians? Not really (unless ure in college us history or AP) but does it talk about the horrors of the holocaust and the chinese genocide of the japanese? OH YEA.
Actually yes we do learn about the misstreatment of of the native american people of america. It also talks about how Sweden misstreated and abused our native culture. We do learn about why humans sterotype and misstreat each other. We learn all this so we can work against racism.

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My teacher who is japanese went on a trip to Virginia, entered a coffee house and guess what? EVERYONE IN THERE TURNS AROUND AND STARES AT HIS FAMILY FOR ABOUT 5 MIN THEN TURNS BACK AROUND AND STARTS MUMBLING. Yea tats pretty racist i think.
Ok, so some hick town in the US is blooming KKK town, fine. I once went in to a Pizza place the owner was from Iran, when I enterd the door he clearly told me that white people wherent welcome in his place and asked me to leave. I did.
So I ask you whats your point? Sure some may be racist but saying that all whites are is stupid.


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have u watched comedy central? "All these white ppl are scared all the time." "All asians look alike" "Look at that mexican with his pickup truck" .
I have to say one thing here is almost correct. Asians do look very much alike to me and I can have trouble seeing whos who. This is a culturall thing, ín Sweden our faces are diffrently built than in Asia. And over a long period of time our brains have been trained to se the diffrences in Euorpean faces not Asian. But as our contact with asian faces grow we learn to se the diffriances between them.
You could call this racism but its a racism I cant controll I can only aceppt it and try to get better at seeing diffriences between asians. And since almost 20% of my town are born Asians Im quite good at it now.


But I do agree sterotypes like that are bad, but its not only white countrys that make sterotypes. Im attending a class calld Människan Socielt och Kulturelt (Humans socialy and culturaly) where we talk about racism, diffrent cultures and how to handle it. The main thing about that class is we try to find out what makes racism and how to prevent it.

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do u live in a predomintaly jew area? i do, and when theres a lot, they look down on everyone else. I hear "oh you eat dogs right?" everyday from them.
Actually I my school is predominant Muslim, so hear how Im a pig eating bastard. Im a atheist it dosent help.
And where I live its predominatnly Christians, they dont like me either.
But this has to do with religon not "colour".
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Old 2003-11-20, 12:13   Link #51
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youve also supported my fact tat ppl like u exist saying bs like "asians are stupid" and such. Wats worse is that in this forum u spoke so strongly against me saying white countries have been racists, u have proven urself the most racist person here. IT makes it worse for u if ure white doesnt it?
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Old 2003-11-20, 12:56   Link #52
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eh?

they say all asians look alike as in "u look just like that guy! are you brothers?"
not "oh i cant tell the difference between chinese and japanese." i wouldnt mind that, i cant tell the difference between a Brit and a german. (but living here i can tell the diffrence between persian jews and persian muslim, its just where u live) but saying that we ALL look the same, i mean i dont even look like my brother.
ive heard things like "Hey arent u related to doctor chin wong?" i say, "nooo"
"Oh u look just like him! u asians all look the same" And when i do see this dr, i find out ive seen gorillas that look more similar. (i mean not that hes ugly, but that i look nothing like him) so i think u misunderstood wat i meant by that, hell even i have hard time telling the difference between Japanese and korean sometimes. But its like these ppl think they are funny by saying they cant tell the difference between me and Connie Lee. Tats not funny, its racist.


read my second post about US schools. BTW ure in sweden arent u? US is different

one town? no thats my teacher. ive had that problem all over america. besides good ol CA. (never been to NY, but i heard its the same there)

i meant jews as in: israelies and persians. Most ppl here in CA use the term jews as a race more than religion since most israelies are jews. ANd even israelie christians are called "jews for christ" (thats wat they call themselves)


here in 2004 open racism can get u arrested. And ure looked down on in CA and NY which is where most of the country's ppl are. Everyone of my teachers (even white ones) have told me outside of CA, its not such a good place, and ppl still look down on the colored ppl.
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Old 2003-11-20, 13:15   Link #53
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O.K you got me. I read the first page but I felt it was supposed to be an emotionaly manipulative piece of crap so I only skimmed the rest of it. But yes the artical talks a lot about ilegal immigrants
Once again, no this article isn't about illegal imigrants, not even one time.
Reads before answering, sometime it's useful.


About the posts of Zoro, bah, think what's you want, for the moment your post are the most racist that I saw here.

Oh just a thing.
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dont care whether or not Hussein has WMD, if theirs a slight chance, im pro-war. Even if its 1%, cuz im not risking the lives of anyone thats innocent. Ppl can say all they want that bush is an idiot cuz we have yet to find the weapons, but if there was some and he didnt go to war, wat would u say if Israel, Saudi Arabia, Iran were all of a sudden nuked? better to not take the chance right?
Get real, if there was 0.000001% chances that Saddam had some WMD, the Bush government would never have attacked, you thinks that one attacks a country which can launch a nuclear bomb? Or you think that they thought that Saddam was a kind man who didn't want to use it if he had one?
The Iraki army was destroyed, there is american soldiers who reported that Iraqi had attacked their tanks with japanese golf pickup with machine-gun assembled above.

The threat posed by Saddam wasn't imminent, and that's borne out by all available evidence, not least the latest report by Bush-appointed arms inspector David Kay, in which he stated that no WMD had been found.

But oh well if finally he didn't have one, this isn't that bad, we can't risk the live of the innocent right? Thousands of Iraki dead? Well if they were iraki, they couldn't be really innocent.
Btw, we don't really know, maybe Syria has a WMD, or Iran, or North Korea they seem pretty dangerous (ah forget that, they don't have any oil and the place isn't strategically useful), and I'm really sure that china have many of them, maybe we should to attack them, better to not take the chance right?
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Old 2003-11-20, 13:27   Link #54
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Once again, no this article isn't about illegal imigrants, not even one time.
Reads before answering, sometime it's useful.


About the posts of Zoro, bah, think what's you want, for the moment your post are the most racist that I saw here.

Oh just a thing.


Get real, if there was 0.000001% chances that Saddam had some WMD, the Bush government would never have attacked, you thinks that one attacks a country which can launch a nuclear bomb? Or you think that they thought that Saddam was a kind man who didn't want to use it if he had one?
The Iraki army was destroyed, there is american soldiers who reported that Iraqi had attacked their tanks with japanese golf pickup with machine-gun assembled above.

The threat posed by Saddam wasn't imminent, and that's borne out by all available evidence, not least the latest report by Bush-appointed arms inspector David Kay, in which he stated that no WMD had been found.

But oh well if finally he didn't have one, this isn't that bad, we can't risk the live of the innocent right? Thousands of Iraki dead? Well if they were iraki, they couldn't be really innocent.
Btw, we don't really know, maybe Syria has a WMD, or Iran, or North Korea they seem pretty dangerous (ah forget that, they don't have any oil and the place isn't strategically useful), and I'm really sure that china have many of them, maybe we should to attack them, better to not take the chance right?
there really wasnt any WMD, but i wouldnt take the chance. Plus Hussein is a dictator, so i dont know, those were good reason. DO u NOT support it then?

N. Korea i say attack it, but N.Korea is much more complicated than Iraq. You do understand the Red Dragon lies above N. KOrea and the last time we invaded there the Chinese swept thru the entire pennisula driving everything and everyone to the tip of S.korea. If CHina doesnt "ok" it its not gonna happen. Not to mention N.Korea is the 4th largest army in the world, and one of the most efficient. US can take it, but casualties will be MUCH higher than the Iraq war, dont forget that N.KOrea will send missles and bombs over S.Korea. N. KOrea is much more sensitive, and its harder to tackle.

1% was an exageration, do ppl in these forum know wat an exageration is!?!

We had discussions on discussions about world current events, and gone thru everything. Attacking Iraq was settled as a bad idea, but i supported bush. And we talked about other countries and the racism thing. Yea explains why i didnt do well on the AP test, cuz i knew more about current situation that history.

u can call me racists, but in the end, thats how the world is. You guys are all just mad cuz i said how the white countries have been racists, and its ovbious that u thought i meant white ppl: which most of u are i assume.

"white countries are racists. and has been proven since they imperialized other countries calling it the WHITE MANS burden and thinking of as inferior"- zoro
"YOURE A RACIST BITCH!!" - hunter
"Korean ppl are imbecile because i dont agree with ur posts" -ryutengu
"yea yea, zoro is racist" - hunter

i can tell how YOU view things hunter. and to think, i respected all of you in here.
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Old 2003-11-20, 13:43   Link #55
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I have to agree with hunter on this. He does state some pretty good points. And zoro, although i know ur not NORTH KOREAN, how would you feel if they started bombing N.Korea because they have a 1%+ chance of having WMD. Would u still be on bush's side. Zoro, if you want to get your point across, make sure you dont favor any sides. The worst thing you can do when argueing about stuff like that is saying one group is better then another. If you want to say majority of racist crimes against other races was caused by "WHite ppl" fine. But dont go saying koreans are a little or alot better when it comes down to who hates who. In my eyes, humanity hates eachother, thats why there is war, poverty and such and such. Poor hates rich, rich looks down on poor, individuals hate groups, groups hate ppl who are different then them. etc. etc. i can go on forever on who hates who. All we really can agree on though is how ignorant people are of others. If we keep pointing out race this and race that, racism will never go away. All in all, if you really want to do away with indifferences like that, dont bring race up as a defense next time someone joke on how your a communist. Make it seem to not be a big deal, if everyone did that, it wouldent be a problem.

People should really not take things so seriously, if i was to scream RACISM everytime someone called me a mexican or make them get to me. I would probally be on sally jessy saying how the school system is racist. or sumtin. What i do is laugh about it, Much how jewish ppl do when they joke about comments made to them.

What my main reason in this blabber is though. the avatars for who fight against racist remarks, are really the ones who make the situation worse.

Well, i hope someone got my meaning.
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Old 2003-11-20, 14:45   Link #56
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there really wasnt any WMD, but i wouldnt take the chance. Plus Hussein is a dictator, so i dont know, those were good reason. DO u NOT support it then?
I will make it simple because you don't seem to understand my point.
Yes Saddam was a dictator, an awful crazy bastard, the day of his death, Earth will be cleaner.
Do you know how many country in the world are dictatorship?
Do you know how many dictator the Us helped to make a coups d'etat? (don't be jealous Eupope deal with dictators too)
What do you think it would arrive if we (ie US, Europe,...) attack all these countries?
All the people will be happy in beautiful democraty?
Once again get real, you can't just say hey guys, no try democraty it's cool, it's easy, just do it.

If I thought that finally the situation was going to be better in Iraq, I would say that even if the intention of the Bush government were not good, at least a good think will result of that.

But the democracy-building in Iraq is going to be a lengthy, difficult and bloody process with the Iraqi population who see the Americans as occupiers, not liberators.

So no. Just say, Saddam was a dictator, it was a good reason to attack isn't true.
But well now it's done, I hope that the democracy-building will be a sucess.
I hope but I don't believe it.

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N. Korea i say attack it, but N.Korea is much more complicated than Iraq. You do understand the Red Dragon lies above N. KOrea and the last time we invaded there the Chinese swept thru the entire pennisula driving everything and everyone to the tip of S.korea. If CHina doesnt "ok" it its not gonna happen. Not to mention N.Korea is the 4th largest army in the world, and one of the most efficient. US can take it, but casualties will be MUCH higher than the Iraq war, dont forget that N.KOrea will send missles and bombs over S.Korea. N. KOrea is much more sensitive, and its harder to tackle.
Yeah thank to agree with me, attacked N. Korea would be extremely dangerous... It's not as Iraq you know, Iraq wasn't a threat at all.

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1% was an exageration, do ppl in these forum know wat an exageration is!?!
Yeah there is.
But you should read more closely what I say, there wasn't 1%, nor 2, 3 or 10% chances. There was 0% chances that Saddam had a nuclear bomb, if not he would not have been attacked.

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And we talked about other countries and the racism thing.
No we talked about the racist (or not, it's the discussion) policy of the american government.

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u can call me racists, but in the end, thats how the world is. You guys are all just mad cuz i said how the white countries have been racists, and its ovbious that u thought i meant white ppl: which most of u are i assume.
Blablablabla, indeed the 'white' countries have been racists, like all countries and peoples in all the history.
You say that the white people are more racist than the other people.
It's bullshit and it's a racist affirmation.
Slavery wasn't invented by the european, the African sold African, the Arabs sold African, the european sold european, the Asian sold Asian since milleniums.
The rascism exists since there is more than two people on the Earth.

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"white countries are racists. and has been proven since they imperialized other countries calling it the WHITE MANS burden and thinking of as inferior"- zoro
"YOURE A RACIST BITCH!!" - hunter
"Korean ppl are imbecile because i dont agree with ur posts" -ryutengu
"yea yea, zoro is racist" - hunter

i can tell how YOU view things hunter. and to think, i respected all of you in here.
Make my day, don't put your words in my mouth.

You said that the white people (damnit white people, like you could make a generalization on hundreds of million people) are the most rascist one.
I said that rascism exist everywhere, in all the countries in all the history.

I never insulted you, don't try to make believe that you are a victim.
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Old 2003-11-20, 14:54   Link #57
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Old 2003-11-20, 14:55   Link #58
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here in 2004 open racism can get u arrested.
what law are you referring to, here? What do you mean by "open racism?" Are you referring to hate crimes or simply racist speech?

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u can call me racists, but in the end, thats how the world is. You guys are all just mad cuz i said how the white countries have been racists, and its ovbious that u thought i meant white ppl: which most of u are i assume.
Nope, I'm bi-racial I'm hispanic and white, which in the eyes of many cultures means I'm just hispanic, in case it should matter, which it doesn't. What I don't appreciate are your generalizations based on race. I.E. saying entire groups (Jews, African Americans, caucasians, etc) are racist or participate in certain racist views. I actually know many of these people and for the most part I've found them to be as varied as you would like them to believe of Koreans.

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and I'm really sure that china have many of them, maybe we should to attack them, better to not take the chance right?
Yeah, but I think they're allowed to. Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but they're one of the 5 under the Nuclear Arms Proliferation Act that's allowed to have nuclear armaments. I think it's U.S., U.S.S.R. (Russia now), France, England, and China. It's been a while though since I've dealt with topic so, let me know if you agree.
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Old 2003-11-20, 15:10   Link #59
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Yeah, but I think they're allowed to. Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but they're one of the 5 under the Nuclear Arms Proliferation Act that's allowed to have nuclear armaments. I think it's U.S., U.S.S.R. (Russia now), France, England, and China. It's been a while though since I've dealt with topic so, let me know if you agree.
No it's much more complicated than that, there is countries which signed this treaty but there is many other which didn't.

Neither India nor Pakistan are a party to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, nor they have signed the Comprehensive nuclear test ban Treaty for example and they have nuclear capacity.
Maybe Iran has the capacity but it's not sure, like N. Korea and some other countries.

edit : damnit ashibaka your pic is funny but that mess up with all the posts -_-
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