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Old 2014-02-18, 05:41   Link #41
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I have to ask but I'm assuming Urobuchi is familiar with Emmanuel Kant or Ferdinand I because the tagline for this series is a modification of an ancient maxim that Kant made famous.

Let justice reign, though the heavens may fall.
Well, the sources may differ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_justitia_ruat_caelum
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Old 2014-02-18, 05:50   Link #42
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Yes the sources do actually differ but I'd say that Kant still popularized the line to hold the moral imperative above all else.
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Old 2014-02-19, 07:41   Link #43
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Wow...a real mecha anime by Urobuchi? This will be great!

The mecha feels like Ebikawa style...
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Old 2014-02-19, 10:10   Link #44
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I wonder what will the humans turn into this time.
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Old 2014-02-19, 10:20   Link #45
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I wonder what will the humans turn into this time.
The mechas?

Eh, but it's already used in Evangelion with a certain protagonist piloting his own mother .
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Old 2014-02-19, 10:38   Link #46
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I seriously hope Urobuchi will stop "the human is the monster/macguffin of the show". I think he has used this trope in almost (if not, all) his shows
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Old 2014-02-19, 11:36   Link #47
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If this is going to, feasibly, compete with or overtake Gundam, then I'd assume they'd just go with a normal human vs. human war story.
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Old 2014-02-19, 11:39   Link #48
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I just want Urobuchi to not fall in the trap of painting the protag's side as ruled by warmongering assholes and incompetent buffons while whitewashing the opposite side as not so bad but really honorable noble demons and virtuous ubermensch. Which was what made me sick about UC Gundam with the whitewashing of Zeon.
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I just want Urobuchi to not fall in the trap of painting the protag's side as ruled by warmongering assholes and incompetent buffons while whitewashing the opposite side as not so bad but really honorable noble demons and virtuous ubermensch. Which was what made me sick about UC Gundam with the whitewashing of Zeon.
Actually, in many UC series, most of the Zeons are still generally painted as “bad” or “evil” as they can be with few exceptional characters from Zeon's side:
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MSG: Evil Zeon
Zeta Gundam: Evil Neo Zeon
Gundam ZZ: Still Evil Neo Zeon
CCA: Even more evil Neo Zeon (with Char going nuts, but Neo Zeon kinda got redeemed by the end for helping in the you-know-what event)
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08th MS Team: Neutral (each side has balanced amount of good & bad people)
Gundam 0080: Neutral (but Zeon still received plenty of evil moments)
Gundam 0083: Evil Zeon
Gundam Unicorn: Evil Federation (but near balanced-state if I say so myself)
MS IGLOO: Neutral
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Old 2014-02-19, 22:22   Link #50
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I wonder what will the humans turn into this time.
Lots of gore. This is Urobutcher we're talking about.
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Most likely with both side has its own reason for war and its justified from their point of view...
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Old 2014-02-20, 04:17   Link #52
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Most likely with both side has its own reason for war and its justified from their point of view...
Yeah,as much as I think people overblow his "butcher" side if there's one thing I expect from him is some sort of moral dilemma and there being heroes and bastards on both sides.
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Old 2014-02-20, 23:08   Link #53
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For some reason I saw Weltall and read it as "Stand tall and shake the heavens", but I guess I was just seeing what I wanted to see at that point.
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Old 2014-02-20, 23:39   Link #54
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Can I just say that I think the phrase "Let justice be done, though the Heavens fall" (or any variation) is pretty spiffy? Go into my box of neat sound quotes, it shall ^_^

I love, love, love well done mecha series so I'm definitely looking forward to this title. While some of his projects end up being a bit of a mess (I'm looking at you, Fate/zero) Urobuchi is a overall very strong writer. I can't wait to see what he does with this project!
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Can I just say that I think the phrase "Let justice be done, though the Heavens fall" (or any variation) is pretty spiffy? Go into my box of neat sound quotes, it shall ^_^

I love, love, love well done mecha series so I'm definitely looking forward to this title. While some of his projects end up being a bit of a mess (I'm looking at you, Fate/zero) Urobuchi is a overall very strong writer. I can't wait to see what he does with this project!
Fate Zero was a mess..? Could you please elaborate on why you think so please? It's one of my favorite shows, granted the pacing in general may have been better but I never saw it as a mess. I'm not trying to start an argument btw, I'm genuinely curious as to why you think so.
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Old 2014-02-21, 17:41   Link #56
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Fate Zero was a mess..? Could you please elaborate on why you think so please? It's one of my favorite shows, granted the pacing in general may have been better but I never saw it as a mess. I'm not trying to start an argument btw, I'm genuinely curious as to why you think so.
Sure, I don't mind. So as not to derail this thread I'll send you a Private Message later with my thoughts. ^_^
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Old 2014-02-22, 05:25   Link #57
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Sure, I don't mind. So as not to derail this thread I'll send you a Private Message later with my thoughts. ^_^
Alright then
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Old 2014-02-22, 12:17   Link #58
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Yeah,as much as I think people overblow his "butcher" side if there's one thing I expect from him is some sort of moral dilemma and there being heroes and bastards on both sides.
Urobuchi has mellowed a lot from what he was really. His current stuff is no where near as dark as his earlier works. In those there's almost zero hope for anyone at all
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Old 2014-02-23, 17:23   Link #59
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Yeah,as much as I think people overblow his "butcher" side if there's one thing I expect from him is some sort of moral dilemma and there being heroes and bastards on both sides.
Yeah Iv grown to expect that from him too. It really doesn't matter to me that much if the show is extremely dark or not I actually watch some of Urobouchi's works more for the moral dilemmas he presents than anything else.
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Old 2014-02-24, 09:13   Link #60
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is anyone aware that this isn't Urobucchy's first mecha series? well as of recent there is another one with Toei animation.

also "german Kamen Rider" Blassretier & Suisei no Gargantia looks like it had a huge difference between them in terms of well.... butchi-ness, still not sure about his tokusatsu work, Kamen Rider Gaim..........
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