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Old 2014-06-28, 21:03   Link #21
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This should be their last tournament unless we get another new movie. If it means we'll get another movie, I'm okay with seeing them back one more time.
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Old 2014-06-28, 22:44   Link #22
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So... when do matches start? Or prelims anyway?
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Old 2014-06-28, 23:03   Link #23
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I'm not sure if that's been announced yet.
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Old 2014-06-29, 00:36   Link #24
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After the 5th to be sure.
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Old 2014-06-29, 17:36   Link #25
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This should be their last tournament unless we get another new movie. If it means we'll get another movie, I'm okay with seeing them back one more time.
If they get another movie, I wouldn't mind Madoka as much as long they aren't over dominating by then. I have to say pleasant surprise if it turns out they aren't dominating at all this year though.
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Old 2014-06-30, 06:07   Link #26
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I don't think I'll be supporting as many girls as before since I didn't watch much recently, and it doesn't seem that there is any outstanding girls besides the veterans anyway.
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Old 2014-07-02, 09:11   Link #27
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Starting quietly this year, have yet to 'frame a market' in my mind regarding 'certs and long shots' at the moment don't have a 'dark horse pick' either so this year will be 'strange' for me to say the least. Good luck girls you are going to need it.

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Old 2014-07-02, 11:11   Link #28
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We should start to see at least something next week I would think.
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Old 2014-07-04, 04:06   Link #29
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Since 2008 or so, even-numbered years were awesome, whereas odd-numbered years were quite awful (Saimoe-wise). So I have great expectations for this year.

As always, I'll be rooting for Saki. Achiga-hen was a great boost for the series back in 2012, so hopefully, Zenkoku-hen will be the same.
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Old 2014-07-06, 20:00   Link #30
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I just noticed this, but the last three finals were intra-series, Madoka twice and Saki in between them. Of the 12 previous tournaments, 5 of the finals had characters from the same series ('04, '08, '11, '12, & '13).

So far, no idea what's going on with this year's show.
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Old 2014-07-07, 18:32   Link #31
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Hello guys, I'm back after a long layoff and staffing at Anime Expo. I think one of the main storylines will be whether or not Saki and Madoka will be relevant this year or if a new face/series takes the reins. Madoka Kaname has done a great job as Saimoe Prime Minister, so we'll see who succeeds her.
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Old 2014-07-07, 19:49   Link #32
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Have the setup been finalised for the preliminary rounds?
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Old 2014-07-08, 10:33   Link #33
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Have the setup been finalised for the preliminary rounds?
No not yet it seems like, the only thing known is they'll start prelims and such during July.
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Old 2014-07-10, 13:38   Link #34
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Guess it is time for my annual Saimoe return
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Old 2014-07-10, 16:35   Link #35
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I'm still not sure if I'll follow this very closely this year but I was suprised to see that they announce some big changes to the tournament structure this year. For example:

- Parts of the tournament will have separation between new characters and veterans. Like, starting from the 1st prelims, there will be groups of newbies and groups of veterans, apparently.

- The 2nd prelims will be a massive match of 448 characters. The characters who classify will be chosen by a proportional representation system called the Sainte-LaguŽ method. Votes for characters of the same series will be added together, then divided by 1, 3, 5, 7,... and then characters will be picked in a similar way as how political party members are chosen in elections.

- The main phase of the tournament will have only 3 rounds and then there will be a "mini-league phase" before the finals.

None of this is official yet but the organizers intend to have everything ready in the next two days so we should have confirmation soon. If there are no delays, the draw for the preliminaries will take place this Sunday (July 13) with the 1st prelims starting the 19th.
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Old 2014-07-10, 16:40   Link #36
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^ Wowsers, these are some radical changes. I think I see what they're going for with them, but I have to admit I'm skeptical of how this will turn out in actual application. I have a feeling that J-SaiMoe may seem overly bloated and convoluted with these changes, much less fun to follow.
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Old 2014-07-10, 16:52   Link #37
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^ Wowsers, these are some radical changes. I think I see what they're going for with them, but I have to admit I'm skeptical of how this will turn out in actual application. I have a feeling that J-SaiMoe may seem overly bloated and convoluted with these changes, much less fun to follow.
Yes, I was thinking the same. If the tournament becomes too complicated, it becomes less fun. I like the simplicity of direct elimination.

On the other hand, trying something new can also be good sometimes. Apparently, one of the reasons they introduce changes is "for the sake of experimentation". The other reason being to reduce the influence of certain veteran series of course.
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Old 2014-07-10, 17:07   Link #38
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Well, the good news here is that the organizers realize that the tournament needs some changes. Even as a Madoka Magica and Saki fan, I don't think it would be ideal for either series to be dominant again this year.

My personal preference would be a simple retirement "time-out" system. If a particular anime series claims 2 J-SaiMoe champions in 3 years or less, then that series gets an automatic year off, regardless of whether or not it had a recent anime airing. As an addition, maybe it would be good if defending champs have to take a year off. I mean, I get the appeal of seeing if a defending champ can win again or not, but since it's never happened, it's not currently much of a question, imo.
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Old 2014-07-11, 08:45   Link #39
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Interesting preliminary system they've got there. I wonder how many times would the character appeared in Saimoe to be considered a veteran for this.
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Old 2014-07-11, 10:02   Link #40
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Superficially it reminds me of the duel system currently used in the International Saimoe League.
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