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Old 2014-08-23, 16:54   Link #461
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because kagune is stronger than sword.....??????
You're missing the point! Use a sword, guns or thrown knives against the Doves

Remember how Jason used that Pliers Shaped device to block Mado's attacks; that proves that a secondary weapon is useful

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Old 2014-08-24, 12:57   Link #462
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Will it be explained where ghouls come from? If they were around for centuries I should imagine the society would have progressed enough to accommodate them?
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Old 2014-08-24, 13:04   Link #463
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Your missing the point! Use a sword, guns or thrown knives against the Doves

Remember how Jason used that Pliers Shaped device to block Mado's attacks; that proves that a secondary weapon is useful
i think YOU are missing the point
and missing the grammar

kagune is stronger and more efficient than any weapon
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Old 2014-08-24, 21:52   Link #464
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i think YOU are missing the point
and missing the grammar

kagune is stronger and more efficient than any weapon
In initial raw power yea, but we been shown kagune has their weaknesses, and the doves have information of the str/weaknesses of the types. For one, it seems all of them require high stamina to maintain even if they're not speed types.

Bringing an actual gun or sword would only help make their kagune more efficient. They make the effort to train themselves in basic hand to hand combat, why do that when they can just use their kagune? Its because kagune isn't the win-all card it seems to be.
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Old 2014-08-24, 23:19   Link #465
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In initial raw power yea, but we been shown kagune has their weaknesses, and the doves have information of the str/weaknesses of the types. For one, it seems all of them require high stamina to maintain even if they're not speed types.

Bringing an actual gun or sword would only help make their kagune more efficient. They make the effort to train themselves in basic hand to hand combat, why do that when they can just use their kagune? Its because kagune isn't the win-all card it seems to be.
That's because they have to worry about other ghouls who also have Kagune.
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Old 2014-08-27, 05:00   Link #466
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You're missing the point! Use a sword, guns or thrown knives against the Doves

Remember how Jason used that Pliers Shaped device to block Mado's attacks; that proves that a secondary weapon is useful
That really isn't necessary though, even if a ghoul can't you use it's Kagune (which is very rare) they have super strength and high durability.

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Will it be explained where ghouls come from? If they were around for centuries I should imagine the society would have progressed enough to accommodate them?
It's lightly touch upon here and there, but nothing truly concrete. The anime left this out Touka mentioned ghouls originally lived underground in the old days. She states she doesn't know much beyond that herself though.
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Old 2014-08-28, 12:16   Link #467
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Touka is so cute as a kid.

I feel bad for Amon though for losing his partner. I actually liked Mado. We'll probably see more battles coming soon with the built-up.
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Old 2014-08-28, 13:04   Link #468
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Oh, Pierrot learned to tease. Also, I get such a kick of great Devil Ape getting ignored all the time.
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Old 2014-08-28, 14:18   Link #469
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Hm, I wonder if where Kaneki's friend plays in all this ghoul business. And I can't wait for the brother/sister reunion.
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Old 2014-08-28, 14:26   Link #470
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Mado & Amon history.
That Amon sure was naive at first.
Just like any newbie, I guess..
Hinami seems to be holding up well.
Her & Touka roommates. At least they won't feel as lonely.
Ken got pickpocketed by some weird guy.
Amon got a new partner & a transfer.
Touka's childhood flashback was sweet.
Looks like Touka's brother is gonna visit next time.
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Old 2014-08-28, 14:26   Link #471
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Devil Ape... interesting
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Old 2014-08-28, 16:22   Link #472
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Hm, I wonder if where Kaneki's friend plays in all this ghoul business.
He definitely knows Kaneki is a ghoul and was disappointed when Kaneki didn't tell him the truth even though he gave the perfect opportunity to do so.

At least I hope that's how you're supposed to interpret the scenes.
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Old 2014-08-28, 16:46   Link #473
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He definitely knows Kaneki is a ghoul and was disappointed when Kaneki didn't tell him the truth even though he gave the perfect opportunity to do so.

At least I hope that's how you're supposed to interpret the scenes.
Oh, I believe that, too. Hideyoshi definitely knows. I was just wondering how much he really does know. He looked surprised when Jason and Tsukiyama were talking about Rize. I guess he's trying to figure out what's happening, too.

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Lol none of the scenes from the PV made it into this arc even though the animation quality seem way higher. What gives!? Kaneki running towards the camera in the end of the PV has way more impact than the one in the actual episode.


Like wtf!? Feel so letdown by the climax of this arc at the moment
I watched the PV again. Maybe those scenes where we see Kaneki and Amon fighting in the PV are from a later conflict and not the one where we see them fight for the first time in the anime. I guess the manga readers can confirm that.
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Old 2014-08-28, 17:27   Link #474
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Let me clear the misunderstanding about the teacup.
It wasn't the shard that pricked him. It wasn't shown at all what hurt him. You just assume it was the teacup shards.

Also why would you a gun when you have the more powerful and flexible wing/tail?
a little late to reply but

I google the scene in manga, it was other guys nail that cut his finger. but that just prove my point thatmy point is Ghoul cant be hurt by normal mean.

To your second question. Ghoul is only vulnerable to quinque thats why dove dont use gun. but unlike Ghoul the dove are human, they can fight back with equally with quinque but they still cant dodge bullets. they simply have no way to fight back against a ghoul with gun.

short version is Human cant dodge bullets.

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kagune is stronger and more efficient than any weapon
Thats only true if Ghoul fighting Ghoul. since weapon is useless against ghoul but against human, guns is a much more efficient weapon. For example. Touka could easily just shoot and kill Mado with a gun and he would have no way to defend against it
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Old 2014-08-28, 18:11   Link #475
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a little late to reply but

I google the scene in manga, it was other guys nail that cut his finger. but that just prove my point thatmy point is Ghoul cant be hurt by normal mean.

To your second question. Ghoul is only vulnerable to quinque thats why dove dont use gun. but unlike Ghoul the dove are human, they can fight back with equally with quinque but they still cant dodge bullets. they simply have no way to fight back against a ghoul with gun.

short version is Human cant dodge bullets.


Thats only true if Ghoul fighting Ghoul. since weapon is useless against ghoul but against human, guns is a much more efficient weapon. For example. Touka could easily just shoot and kill Mado with a gun and he would have no way to defend against it
Mado has a quinque, and Touka can shot out her kagune like bullets/spikes and he had no problem using his quinque's to stop those. Guns and bullets are not the end all to the problem either.
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Old 2014-08-28, 20:40   Link #476
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Jason and Tsukiyama
No.

Also, people. There are certain mechanics in the series, and not everything's going to be explained. However, this is a series where setting's got certain rules. So, everything's in due time.
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Old 2014-08-28, 20:50   Link #477
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No.

Also, people. There are certain mechanics in the series, and not everything's going to be explained. However, this is a series where setting's got certain rules. So, everything's in due time.
That wasn't him? Hm, so I guess there's more than one character other than him who has a unique taste in fashion.
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Old 2014-08-28, 23:20   Link #478
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Finally got around to watching the episode, and there's one thing I keep forgetting to mention, or at least I don't think I have yet, but it's the music, the music really sets the mood and tone for the scenes as well as the show.

It looks like everyone is slowly moving on, but with several characters emerging it looks like the stage is about to be set for something. And two of my favorite characters show up.
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Old 2014-08-29, 10:47   Link #479
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I was happy to see Hinami is recovering. Her smile warmed my heart. I hope she'll be able to leave in peace from now on, but given the kind of series this is, it's not very likely.
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Old 2014-08-29, 13:51   Link #480
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Another great episode! Showing a bit of Amon's history with Mado was just what the doctor ordered to make us sympathize with him a bit more. Granted,an entire episode dedicated to that would've been even better but time constraints,what can do... I'll probably read the manga after the anime anyway end's anyway as there's waaaay too much happening here and so little time remaining

Anyway,looks like shit's about to go down starting next ep - big time.
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