"Petit soeur" ?

[Atarun]

Hi everyone! I'm a complete newbie in this forum...
I was wondering if people that are writing "petit soeur" are right since this is a french expression and :
"soeur" is feminine + "petit" is an adjective = the right expression in french would be "petite soeur"...
Is it a mistake intentionnally done by the author and (that would be understable) are fans saying it as it is in the novels and/or anime or ...?

Thank you for reading my first post here

[Göönk]

WELCOME !!!
Most of the people here are english/US/Nihonjin, so, they don't speak a single word of french. You're right, actually, not completely, it should be "Petite sœur" but that œ is hard to type, right?

[MikoKikyo]

Yes Atarun, it should be "petite". It's gramatically incorrect.
I think it was just ignorance from the part of the author *shrug*

Thanx Goonk for clarifying this for us

[Atarun]

Originally Posted by Göönk

WELCOME !!!
Most of the people here are english/US/Nihonjin, so, they don't speak a single word of french. You're right, actually, not completely, it should be "Petite sœur" but that œ is hard to type, right?

Well, hunter hunted, huh ?
By the way, how could I type an "e dans l'o" ?

[Ialdaboth]

œ = alt+0156
Π= alt+0140

But if there is simpler, i'm interested. ^^

[Göönk]

Originally Posted by Ialdaboth

œ = alt+0156
Π= alt+0140

But if there is simpler, i'm interested. ^^

on my french macintosh keyboard ^_^ it's "alt+o"

[Ialdaboth]

Tsss.

Not *that* simple.

[Ara^-^]

Hello

My first language is french. It should be write : petite soeur

[Göönk]

Originally Posted by Ara^-^

Hello

My first language is french. It should be write : petite soeur

ah! I have to disagree with that

[Göönk]

I changed my signature !

[laurore31]

i don't understand well... because Haruna-san (seiyu of Yoshino) speaks french very well, then why she didn't talk about this error ?

i forget where we saw "petit soeur". In the episodes title ? or in the fansub release ?

[Ialdaboth]

Maybe because the error come from the novels and is, therefore, canon ?
I don't know, i'm just making up hypotheses.

[lordwu]

Originally Posted by Ialdaboth

Maybe because the error come from the novels and is, therefore, canon ?
I don't know, i'm just making up hypotheses.

It was written in katakana in the novel so you can't say the error came from the novel. I believe it was also the correct spelling in the fansub too (other than that butterfly char).

[Honkie_McGee]

Originally Posted by Göönk

WELCOME !!!
Most of the people here are english/US/Nihonjin, so, they don't speak a single word of french. You're right, actually, not completely, it should be "Petite sœur" but that œ is hard to type, right?

Buffet is a French word, right? I've used that one before.

[Dixyt]

Originally Posted by Honkie_McGee

Buffet is a French word, right? I've used that one before.

Yes it is a French word ... but it's not really used ... it sounds a little old-fashioned in french. ;-)

[Lavilainepieuvre]

Originally Posted by Honkie_McGee
Buffet is a French word, right? I've used that one before.

Originally Posted by Dixyt

Yes it is a French word ... but it's not really used ... it sounds a little old-fashioned in french. ;-)

I don't know about the "not really used" part. In Québec it is widely used. Buffet can refer to an all you can eat restaurant. It can also have the same meaning that it has in English : a cold meal which is served in events of all sorts. It could also mean a kitchen dresser.

As for the link between the o and the e, it is not that important. Although it should be written sœur, most people don't bother to link the e and the o when writing. I know I don't. But I think that Word corrects automatically this error. I'm not sure.

[Ialdaboth]

As for the link between the o and the e, it is not that important. Although it should be written sœur, most people don't bother to link the e and the o when writing.

Exactly. But there is some perverse humor into nit-picking it in English. ^^

Off topic, but I really wish to talk about it without opening a new thread : if there are some pen&paper RPG players among the french-speaking people here, why not gather at a convention and have a game ^^ ? (no, not with the Magical Girl supplement)

[Göönk]

Originally Posted by Ialdaboth

Exactly. But there is some perverse humor into nit-picking it in English. ^^

Off topic, but I really wish to talk about it without opening a new thread : if there are some pen&paper RPG players among the french-speaking people here, why not gather at a convention and have a game ^^ ? (no, not with the Magical Girl supplement)

it's a girl game i presume. I tried to read the rules but there were too many ignitials and i was not understanding at all :-)

[mantidor]

to stay on topic:

If it was written in katakana then is okay in the japanese version, but I think that not in the fansubs. Katakana is meant to sound like the original french pronunciation (or any other language for that matter) , therefore petit is okay in katakana, (maybe it was written petitto in the novels, I don't know).

[kj1980]

Originally Posted by mantidor

to stay on topic:

If it was written in katakana then is okay in the japanese version, but I think that not in the fansubs. Katakana is meant to sound like the original french pronunciation (or any other language for that matter) , therefore petit is okay in katakana, (maybe it was written petitto in the novels, I don't know).

It is written as プティ・スール which when written in romaji, it becomes: "puti su-ru = petit sœur"

Yes it is actually wrong from the original katakana. Since "sœur" is a feminine word (la sœur), it should be have been written as プティト (putitto = petite). Also, it shouldn't have been written as グラン (guran = gran), but should've been グランド (gurando = grande) as well.